Trades and Free Agency Thread - Push all the chips in?

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It was posted... wasn't really worth repeating though.

Last three seasons
Hall 129GP 29G 106P = 18G, 67P per 82
Galchenyuk 141 GP 28G 67P, 16G, 39P per 82

Of their last 3 seasons, Hall's current (and by far worst) he is on pace to match the point production of Galchenyuk's best.
It still shows that he is a line killer, as he is a volume shooter who can't outscore Galchenyuk was more the point being made. Only Matthews shoots more often than Hall in our top-6, and everyone currently there has a better shooting % than Hall. The last thing the Leafs need is a shot happy player who can't score goals in their top-6.

I think either deal I posted was reasonable.
 
Hall is considerably better defensively than Mikheyev, and a much better playmaker. He just happens to be getting .870 goaltending while Mikheyev is getting 0.94
I think we're either really overestimating Hall defensively or really overestimating Mikheyev defensively... probably the latter of the two
Dermott for pending UFA Jamie Oleksiak (50%).

Who says no? Keeping in mind that Dermott would most likely be exposed/lost in the expansion draft.
Dallas, but only because of the expansion draft, he'd get exposed by them. However the Leafs could acquire assets for Dermott in a 2nd deal (Ottawa would be a great fit, both as a hockey trade & expansion wise) that should more than pay for Oleksiak as long as they're willing to give him up.

I saw on Twitter (though haven't verified it) that Hall is still owed quite a bit of real dollars.

Would imagine that alone is keeping many teams away
This could be good for the Leafs or bad because they could only take on about 1/4 of his contract... if say Buffalo & Chicago could manage that retention without the Leafs giving up too much, it could work. Leafs could even take on Chicago's Zach Smith LTIR contract as apart of it, doing so they really shouldn't owe Chicago anything because in reality they'd be saving Chicago money.

Dermott seems to be struggling mightily at times. Oleksiak is a big guy who can skate and clear the way, plus he has experience from the Cup run Dallas made.

A bottom pairing of Oleksiak and Bogosian would be formidable.
Agreed Oleksiak would be a big upgrade to Dermott on the third pair & he would bring a lot of valuable playoff toughness on top of it. I believe the pair would work, although Oleksiak is a big body, impressively he can actually skate pretty well & has a good skillset.
 
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We also have to expose a forward. I can't even think of 7 we can protect....

Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander, Kerfoot, and Engvall are the only 6 we currently need to protect. We could re-sign guys like Hyman and Simmonds just to protect them I suppose.
Definitely seems like they are leaning towards a 4-4-1 setup currently. But they do have flexibility to sign guys, or trade for guys with term.
 
I agree, TBH.

What type of offer would you make?

If you can put Anderson on LTIR until playoffs.... and Hall only waives NTC for Leafs...

2nd + B Prospect + Hollowell? for Hall(50%) + Ullmark(50%)
Probably throw in another late pick, but not this year.

Assuming 25% of the season is left, that saves the Sabres 2M+0.65M in salary.
I don't think the Sabres have leverage if Hall just wants to go to the Leafs. This is more about where Hall wants to go, rather than whether the Leafs want him.

Throw in Hutchinson too, Leafs have too many goalies. :D
 
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There's certainly a logic to it, but also comes down to what plans they have for Dermott.
I'm not seeing a player who has an opportunity to advance as everyone above him has term, so he's locked into his role. I think that Oleksiak is better suited for the bottom pairing role.

But they may need Dermott to expose in the Seattle draft I suppose.
 
Taylor Hall is not the guy you want when he needs to be the guy leading the charge (Edmonton, NJ, Arizona, Buffalo).

He would be the 6th guy in the top 6 here. He would flourish.
 
Taylor Hall is not the guy you want when he needs to be the guy leading the charge (Edmonton, NJ, Arizona, Buffalo).

He would be the 6th guy in the top 6 here. He would flourish.

He doesn't fit in the top 6 though.

Tavares and Nyander need Hyman or Simmonds. They've been useless without those guys.
 
While that's interesting, please go back beyond this year. It's been the case for years that he's been near the team high in GA/60... I've gone back years for him.... At some point you cannot blame one team, in one year's goaltending.
You still also can't blame one single player on a team for goals against. I personally know nothing about Halls's defensive game but I don't like the narrative on using stats that are team-based. You can't judge a single player on their defense with goals against unless it's clearly bad judgment on their part (so their fault that led to the goal) which is what the eye test is for.
 
Dallas, but only because of the expansion draft, he'd get exposed by them. However the Leafs could acquire assets for Dermott in a 2nd deal (Ottawa would be a great fit, both as a hockey trade & expansion wise) that should more than pay for Oleksiak as long as they're willing to give him up.

Agreed Oleksiak would be a big upgrade to Dermott on the third pair & he would bring a lot of valuable playoff toughness on top of it. I believe the pair would work, although Oleksiak is a big body, impressively he can actually skate pretty well & has a good skillset.

I was thinking that Dallas might be more inclined to expose Sekera instead of Dermott. But who knows really. I think that it will be interesting now that the quarantine period is only 7 days. Opens up the trade market quite a bit.

I do think Oleksiak is an upgrade on Dermott too. Plus he has Cup Finals experience.
 
Hall is the type of signing in the off-season. It will be like for 900k one year deal where he can show the World he can still play and then leave the Leafs in the following off season to another team that is willing to give me his last big contract.
 
I was thinking that Dallas might be more inclined to expose Sekera instead of Dermott. But who knows really. I think that it will be interesting now that the quarantine period is only 7 days. Opens up the trade market quite a bit.

I do think Oleksiak is an upgrade on Dermott too. Plus he has Cup Finals experience.
Definitely would over Sekera, but they'd probably go with a 7-3 with Heiskanen, Klingberg, Lindell being the D right? Otherwise they'd be exposing some pretty good forwards. You may have forgotten that Heiskanen isn't exempt, he's just 1 year off being eligible for exemption.

You can see all of the players per team here:
Seattle Expansion Draft Simulator - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
 
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Definitely would over Sekera, but they'd probably go with a 7-3 with Heiskanen, Klingberg, Lindell being the D right? Otherwise they'd be exposing some pretty good forwards. You may have forgotten that Heiskanen isn't exempt, he's just 1 year off being eligible for exemption.

You can see all of the players per team here:
Seattle Expansion Draft Simulator - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
Yep, I was looking directly at that and it didn't even click that Heiskanen wasn't exempt. Good catch.
 
I agree, TBH.

What type of offer would you make?

If we are willing to move Dermott: Andersen, Dermott, and Malgin for Hall (50% retained) and Ullmark (no retention). They can move Andersen to a third team for whatever they can get out of him. Then acquire a Dermott replacement.

If not, then Andersen + Malgin + Hollowell + 2021 2nd and maybe get a 7th back from them or something.
 
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Hall is a dynamic player but they have a bunch of those who just need to find that again. I would much sooner they look at a Foligno and maybe a Staal. There are lot of deals that could improve the club but the cap and expansion make this a bad time to go for a prime addition.
 
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Hall is a dynamic player but they have a bunch of those who just need to find that again. I would much sooner they look at a Foligno and maybe a Staal. There are lot of deals that could improve the club but the cap and expansion make this a bad time to go for a prime addition.

Me too. To me we just lack a certain type of grindy substance, and Simmonds isn't able to bring it all himself. Lots of options suggested here by all but I 100% agree on the type of player recommendation.
 
Is having the 2nd (or 3rd) best goalie in every playoff series a recipe to win in the playoffs?
Thanks for answering my question! If you're expecting unsustainable goaltending to win a cup, you're not going to be happy with the result.
 
It still shows that he is a line killer, as he is a volume shooter who can't outscore Galchenyuk was more the point being made. Only Matthews shoots more often than Hall in our top-6, and everyone currently there has a better shooting % than Hall. The last thing the Leafs need is a shot happy player who can't score goals in their top-6.

I think either deal I posted was reasonable.

I'm thinking Hall-Kerf-Hyman. Balls to the wall, north-south, pucks in deep or to the net. Arguably a 3rd 1st line. Akin to Hagelin-Bonino-Kessel but way harder to play against
 
I'm thinking Hall-Kerf-Hyman. Balls to the wall, north-south, pucks in deep or to the net. Arguably a 3rd 1st line. Akin to Hagelin-Bonino-Kessel but way harder to play against

That's nowhere close to a 1st line. Hyman would still need to carry Hall. I don't see the Hall allure. Much better off getting a top9 winger with some grit
 
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I'm thinking Hall-Kerf-Hyman. Balls to the wall, north-south, pucks in deep or to the net. Arguably a 3rd 1st line. Akin to Hagelin-Bonino-Kessel but way harder to play against
That could work. The other 2 could just cover for him on the D side, and Hyman can go into the corners and get him the biscuit.
 
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with quarantine being shortened to just a week, I wonder if the Leafs should go after Palmieri. He can finish plays and contribute on the PP, so he brings a lot of what the Leafs are missing
 
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