Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[tmlms13]

Arizona has 4 firsts, 9 seconds and 8 thirds the next 3 drafts.

If Arizona offered all that unprotected + Guenther & Keller for Matthews this offseason I might think about it.

 

[LeafsFan89]

Hahaahaha. Wow.

 

[tmlms13]

Honestly, considering the joke of an arena they are currently in I don’t blame them for just deferring down the road. That isn’t an arena for most big league players.

Defer and try and start fresh in the new arena.

I think they have better odds of being in Quebec than they do of being in a new arena

 

[HarrisonFord]

Honestly an average deal for both sides. A 1st and 2 2nds for a second pair defenceman

 

[Legion34]

I would way have rathered that than McCabe myself

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Yeah theres already Leaf haters on the main board thread saying we gave about the same for McCabe, which isnt even true because Ottawa’s 1st will be much higher than ours.

Not comparable moves at all and im still stoked for McCabe.

… now I’m not one to overestimate the intelligence of main boards posters but are they not aware we also got Lafferty in that trade too?

 

[SprDaVE]

I would way have rathered that than McCabe myself

It wouldn't have cost that for the Leafs. Their pick(s) won't end up as high as the Sens own pick.

And if they asked the Coyotes to retain, price goes up.

 

[123offtheglass]

Wild Trade Deadline.

 

[Jojalu]

Is this the first deadline where every name on the board actually got traded? Plus a bunch more.

Insane. I love it

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Doesn't help that they also don't seem to have great scouts either.

Most of those picks will go to waste

They also have to convince the picks they do get to come play in a university stadium. So ridiculous

 

[ACC1224]

Thats who he was traded for 3 months ago. His value was close to nothing before Toronto found him.

If you believe his value was Douglas you’ll be on an island alone with that.
One will never sniff the NHL while the other will be in the starting 6 here next season.
You realize he was the main piece for Keumper a season ago?

 

[Zybalto]

… now I’m not one to overestimate the intelligence of main boards posters but are they not aware we also got Lafferty in that trade too?

50% retention for full 2 years after this one too.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

No worries. Matt Murray says they have a great medical staff. LOL.

Ya I didn't really get that one from the start

 

[Torontonian]

Solid deal for Ottawa, they needed a top 4 d-man and they got one.

 

[CatchyTune]

… now I’m not one to overestimate the intelligence of main boards posters but are they not aware we also got Lafferty in that trade too?

Every trade that gets made gets compared to us.

Literally not even page 3 of a blockbuster trade between Ottawa and Arizona and I see the name Dubas smh

 

[Buds17]

I would way have rathered that than McCabe myself

Yes-Chychrun is better, our picks will be of lesser quality than Ottawa's
No-Chychrun is significantly more expensive, we directly lose out on another player (Lafferty)

I imagine the asking price for Chychrun would have differed depending upon quality of team (which of course affects the quality of the draft picks involved). I doubt this trade outcome was going to be on the table for Toronto.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[Puckstuff]

If you believe his value was Douglas you’ll be on an island alone with that.
One will never sniff the NHL while the other will be in the starting 6 here next season.
You realize he was the main piece for Keumper a season ago?

I don’t “think” his value was Douglas, I know his value was Douglas… that’s who he was traded for. Any team could have offered a better prospect than Douglas and got Timmins. Neither of them were top prospects or performing well. This was not a highly coveted player and if you think he was a valuable player at that time you’re delusional. His stock was down considerably at that time. If anything his value increased after we traded for him and he had a good run of games, but not enough to keep him over an NHL regular who has produced in the playoffs, as we are heading into the most important playoff series this franchise has had since 1967.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Given how deep the 2023 draft allegedly is and how barren the rest of the trade market is I could see the Leafs being done now. And hell, keeping Boston’s first is incentive to get past Tampa and beat Boston in round 2 to make that pick as high as possible.

 

[CatchyTune]

Yes-Chychrun is better, our picks will be of lesser quality than Ottawa's
No-Chychrun is significantly more expensive, we directly lose out on another player (Lafferty)

I imagine the asking price for Chychrun would have differed depending upon quality of team (which of course affects the quality of the draft picks involved). I doubt this trade outcome was going to be on the table for Toronto.

Before me made any trade, months ago knowing Chychyrun/Gavrikov were available my #1 trade target was a McCabe/Lafferty package from Chicago.

I have never been on the nose about a set of players coming here before. I was actually mocking us to give more value than we did lol.

 

[Menzinger]

Given how deep the 2023 draft allegedly is and how barren the rest of the trade market is I could see the Leafs being done now. And hell, keeping Boston’s first is incentive to get past Tampa and beat Boston in round 2 to make that pick as high as possible.

They may end up keeping the picks, but there's still too many D men on the roster. Someone likely still has to go

 

[Jmo89]

… now I’m not one to overestimate the intelligence of main boards posters but are they not aware we also got Lafferty in that trade too?

I wasted some time on the main board yesterday. Got lured in with the usual shtick of posters who follow Leafs fans around and whine about everything Leafs.

It was a good reminder of why I usually only participate there on a bi-annual basis.

 

[Maplebeasts]

What a disaster for the Coyotes. Should have waited until either the offseason or next TDL.

 

[123offtheglass]

Hearing Chychrun + a sweetener for Jeannot next.

 

[613Leafer]

It wouldn't have cost that for the Leafs. Their pick(s) won't end up as high as the Sens own pick.

And if they asked the Coyotes to retain, price goes up.

Yea, to put it on a level playing field:

McCabe with no retention and without Lafferty - probably just the late 1st, or maybe a 2nd + 4th. Certainly not the 1st + 2nd + Anderson with a 5th coming back deal we made.

Chychrun - factoring in that our 1st is expected to be ~10-20 spots later than Ottawa's, probably two 1sts + 2nd.