Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[Americanadian]

You can't put anyone on LTIR for just a day.

They can retroactively put Matthews on LTIR for 21 days going back to his last game played though. His 21 days would be up on 2/16.

 

[Buds17]

NBA is so much more fun than the NHL it's not even close.

Apples and oranges (vast difference in # of Canadian players and teams, 4/5 years max term instead of 7/8, etc.)

 

[kb]

The thing with this is that on the surface it's smart and probably interesting. But when the playoffs hit and Nyquist probably is healthy/wants to play, you have to remove a player that worked their butt off the entire year, while Nyquist needs to find some form of chemistry with the team and fit into their plans.

He's probably a good back-up plan in case the Leafs hit some injuries and on the surface he's still a solid 40-50 point forward but... not sure he fits to me.

I mean if people think that a guy who will be coming off a fairly lengthy injury layoff, and who has a grand total of 6G in 65 playoffs games is a smart add for the Leafs.....well, I don't know what to say.....

They can retroactively put Matthews on LTIR for 21 days going back to his last game played though. His 21 days would be up on 2/16.

He has to be out for both a minimum of 10 games and 24 days.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

You can't put anyone on LTIR for just a day.

If a legitimate NHL insider says they can do it, they can do it

 

[pspot]

Age 29
4 years remaining at $3.6M AAV
49 GP, 9G, 14A, 23P this season
Good third liner, penalty killing, leadership, locker room guy, Cup experience, intangibles etc etc.

Rangers desperately need the cap space in the offseason and getting rid of him might be the only way.

Took that from the main board, titled "would anyone take Goodrow"....made me think of discussions around Jeannot and Crouse on this board

great players to have on contending teams...before they cash in on perceived value. You don't want to be the team holding the purse strings

 

[kb]

They can back date LTIR though correct?
Perhaps he was referring to backdating and hitting the minimum threshold for Matthews, and then to acquire and place on LTIR?

So maybe Matthews spends longer on IR ... meeting LTIR requirements.

Matthews has to miss both of 10 games and 24 days.

 

[thusk]

I think we’d need 2 top 6 in that scenario?

Bunting. Matthews Marner
______ Tavares _____
Jankrok Kerfoot Nylander

Or were you thinking someone internal for line 2?

No i dont think they need 2 ... you dont necessairly need a elite player exemple to play with jt and marner....a guy like engval or holmberg will work and give

Exemple

Bunting-AM- top 6 playrr
Engval/holmberg-JT-Marner
Kerfoot-Jarnkrok- Nylander

You having 3 really good line

Leafs can do it with ROR or a toews unstead or nylander on 3rd line and can work too...

kerfoot/jarnkrok can be great complementary player on a 3rd line who can look like pittsburgh HBK with a key 3rd piece

 

[kb]

If a legitimate NHL insider says they can do it, they can do it

At least you know which insider to ignore in the future, since he has zero clue on how LTIR works.

There is no way around missing 10 games or 24 days.

There, I'm already better than that insider.

They can retroactively put Matthews on LTIR for 21 days going back to his last game played though. His 21 days would be up on 2/16.

It's 10 games AND 24 days.

Long Term Injured Reserve (LTIR) - High Level Overview | Puckpedia

 

[ULF_55]

Matthews has to miss both of 10 games and 24 days.

Yeah, so he'd be missing more than 1 day/1 game.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The thing with this is that on the surface it's smart and probably interesting. But when the playoffs hit and Nyquist probably is healthy/wants to play, you have to remove a player that worked their butt off the entire year, while Nyquist needs to find some form of chemistry with the team and fit into their plans.

He's probably a good back-up plan in case the Leafs hit some injuries and on the surface he's still a solid 40-50 point forward but... not sure he fits to me if the Leafs are healthy by the deadline. I'd rather just call-up someone like Steeves and McMann than to use a player that was injured for a long time.

Who cares what, Joey Anderson or Bobby Mcmann wants? Nyquist is better than both so he should play It's that simple.

Especially since Bobby Mcmann has given them NOTHING offensively, I know he's not there for offense but It's 2023, not 2001 you can't have players that give you nothing offensively anymore.

 

[Americanadian]

I mean if people think that a guy who will be coming off a fairly lengthy injury layoff, and who has a grand total of 6G in 65 playoffs games is a smart add for the Leafs.....well, I don't know what to say.....


He has to be out for both a minimum of 10 games and 24 days.

I thought it was one or the other. 24 days would make him eligible on 2/19. 10 games would be 2/26.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

At least you know which insider to ignore in the future, since he has zero clue on how LTIR works.

There is no way around missing 10 games or 24 days.

There, I'm already better than that insider.


It's 10 games AND 24 days.

Long Term Injured Reserve (LTIR) - High Level Overview | Puckpedia

He got that information from somewhere so must be SOMETHING to it.

 

[kb]

Yeah, so he'd be missing more than 1 day/1 game.

Yup. Needs a whole lot more games, even if the days work well.

But to do all that to fit in a guy with 6G in 65 career playoff games?

Yeesh.

 

[SprDaVE]

Who cares what, Joey Anderson or Bobby Mcmann wants? Nyquist is better than both so he should play It's that simple.

Especially since Bobby Mcmann has given them NOTHING offensively, I know he's not there for offense but It's 2023, not 2001 you can't have players that give you nothing offensively anymore.

It's not about Joey Anderson and Bobby McMann? They haven't played the entire year. Just look at the roster healthy and let me know which winger you're taking out. Keep in mind the Leafs are probably also adding a name or two in next couple weeks.

Nyquist would be categorized as a "cream puff" forward. He's all offence, no defense as well. He adds nothing to the PK, he won't play PP either. He certainly doesn't add physicality or energy. But if Nyquist is willing to be the 13th forward and give the Leafs better depth/insurance, it could be ok.

 

[Burnie97]

The thing with this is that on the surface it's smart and probably interesting. But when the playoffs hit and Nyquist probably is healthy/wants to play, you have to remove a player that worked their butt off the entire year, while Nyquist needs to find some form of chemistry with the team and fit into their plans.

He's probably a good back-up plan in case the Leafs hit some injuries and on the surface he's still a solid 40-50 point forward but... not sure he fits to me if the Leafs are healthy by the deadline. I'd rather just call-up someone like Steeves and McMann than to use a player that was injured for a long time.

Good points.

Plus whatever 1 or 2 forwards the Leafs aquire you would want them to get use to the Leafs system before the playoffs which you were alluding to.

I think at least 1 forward has to go out in a trade too.

I still think forwards and particularly LW in top 6 are the biggest needs.

A D add for depth would be good but they can't be spending many assets for that area IMO. Unless they do more of a one for one trade to change up the pairings.

 

[kb]

I thought it was one or the other. 24 days would make him eligible on 2/19.

The link I provided shows the LTIR rules. And a few common misconceptions.

It's a good link.....easier to read than the actual CBA. lol Too much legalese in the actual CBA

 

[Americanadian]

The link I provided shows the LTIR rules. And a few common misconceptions.

It's a good link.....easier to read than the actual CBA. lol Too much legalese in the actual CBA

I’ve read the CBA twice today now. I hit my annual quota.

 

[Stephen]

For a guy who played just over 10 minutes on average while playing in only 19 of 48 games?

That would be idiotic. Absolutely idiotic.

We spent the same on David Rittich.

 

[Stephen]

Is Benn really that different from Schenn?
I have been saying it for a while, if there is a defensive upgrade, it must be in the Top 3 instead of depth Dman bc we have plenty.
Muscle and toughness, we got Benn, Keefe just needs to play him more.
Speed and skills, there is Timmins and even Mac or Mete.

Maybe? I’m not saying to go grab Schenn under any circumstances but I think there’s a bit of nuance to the conversation where he doesn’t seem like a very purposeful target in a conversation about depth charts but I think I might want him there to help defend the lead late. Lock it down. Benn could very well do the job too.

 

[ULF_55]

NBA is so much more fun than the NHL it's not even close.

Well, it is much more hotdoggint and putting it on over the top.

I mean celebrating every basket like you haven't done it before.

I guess the NHL could empty the benches on every goal?

 

[LeafSteel]

Really leaning this way now:

From Anaheim: Henrique and Comtois
From Chicago: Sam Lafferty
From Columbus: Andrew Peeke

Bunting-Matthews-Nylander
Comtois-Tavares-Marner
Jarnkrok-Henrique-Engvall
ZAR-Kampf- Lafferty

Rielly-Peeke
Gio-Brodie
Sandin-Liljegren

Move out Holl and Kerfoot. Engvall is also expendable here if needed for trade value or cap room. Lafferty could slot in 3RW and Holmberg draws in for 4RW

Keep Knies & Niemala, everything else should not be an exorbitant cost compared to what the more highly touted players to move would cost.

Improves our Team, doesn't break the bank and keeps our pipeline strong so that we are better next year as well.

Flame away, and Kyle, you are welcome that I just plotted your TDL for you.....

 

[thusk]

We spent the same on David Rittich.

They spent1 and they didn't had any choice with andersen injury and campbell injuries issues history...

 

[kb]

I’ve read the CBA twice today now. I hit my annual quota.

If you are at work, and reading the CBA twice is more interesting than work......LOL.

Kinda why I retired.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

It's not about Joey Anderson and Bobby McMann? They haven't played the entire year. Just look at the roster healthy and let me know which winger you're taking out.

Nyquist would be categorized as a "cream puff" forward. He's all offence, no defense as well. He adds nothing to the PK, he won't play PP either. He certainly doesn't add physicality or energy.

Alright let's do that, healthy Leafs roster looks something like this.

Bunting Matthews Marner

Jarnkork Tavares Nylander

Kerfoot Kampf Engvall

Zar Holmberg and any combination of Simmonds/Hunt/Mcmann/Anderson

Now that we have established the roster let's answer your question.

We can start with the obvious those being ZAR and the random mix of Simm/Anderson/Mcmann/Hunt.

Nyquist is better than all of them but he's not a 4th liner, OK next.

3rd line Kerfoot Kampf Engvall.

Well well well look here what do we see? We see Alex Kerfoot and that right there is your answer.

The answer is Alex Kerfoot, does that mean he takes Kerfoot spot on the 3rd line?

OR does that mean that he takes Jarnkork spot on the 2nd line and Jarnkork takes Kerfoot spot on the 3rd line?

I don't know but regardless the answer is Alex Kerfoot

 

[Griffin76]

Just please don't trade Liljegren or Knies. I have a feeling every team the Leafs talk to will have these 2 on the top of their lists. That worries me.