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They have a shot.....it will depend on how things go over the next few games whether they will be buyers or sellers......or stand pat.
Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition
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Some possible D Targets:
- Chychrun: Seems out of the picture now with the ROR trade, & makes less sense if Sandin isn't apart of the deal
- Orlov: Probably too pricey given he'd be a pure rental along with the ROR trade already happened.
- Jensen: If Washington shops him for less than a 1st, Leafs should be all over this.
- McCabe: @50%, he kinda makes sense if the price isn't ridiculous, but that's more of costly lateral move for the sake of a different look.
- Soucy: He'd be a solid add/fit if Seattle were to actually shop him at a reasonable price, a deal seems doubtful unless there's a third team involved.
- Schenn: Would be a solid 7th D but some team is probably going to overpay.
- Kulikov: Nothing against the player as a cheap depth but I'd just stay clear of Anaheim alltogether.
- TVR: Worth a flyer if he's made avalible
- Mayfield, Gudas: Probably not avalible but there's still time before TDL.
- Chychrun: Seems out of the picture now with the ROR trade, & makes less sense if Sandin isn't apart of the deal
- Orlov: Probably too pricey given he'd be a pure rental along with the ROR trade already happened.
- Jensen: If Washington shops him for less than a 1st, Leafs should be all over this.
- McCabe: @50%, he kinda makes sense if the price isn't ridiculous, but that's more of costly lateral move for the sake of a different look.
- Soucy: He'd be a solid add/fit if Seattle were to actually shop him at a reasonable price, a deal seems doubtful unless there's a third team involved.
- Schenn: Would be a solid 7th D but some team is probably going to overpay.
- Kulikov: Nothing against the player as a cheap depth but I'd just stay clear of Anaheim alltogether.
- TVR: Worth a flyer if he's made avalible
- Mayfield, Gudas: Probably not avalible but there's still time before TDL.
I think that was before the ROR and Acciari trade as Leafs was thin at C. Now that we got those two, Kerfoot is redundant
Goalies swap
Murray (1yr left @ $4,687,500)
Woll (2yr @ $766,667)
for
Vejmelka (2yrs left @ 2,725,000)
Would feel a lot more comfortable with a Samsonov/Vejmelka combo heading into the playoffs.
Murray (1yr left @ $4,687,500)
Woll (2yr @ $766,667)
for
Vejmelka (2yrs left @ 2,725,000)
Would feel a lot more comfortable with a Samsonov/Vejmelka combo heading into the playoffs.
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Good point about the timing of that submitted list (LOL about NJ). I imagine he received that clause for this season because it didn't seem very likely that he'd be moved. I'm guessing that players in trades primarily for cap purposes don't typically have trade protection or a 3.5M AAV as well. While I can't entirely rule out the possibility of him being moved, I'm also not particularly anticipating it either.He would have submitted his list on July 1st so probably some clubs like NJ are on it. IMO there is a slight chance he gets dealt once teams that are not on his list have made their big moves, but it seems more likely he is a keeper.
Honestly would rather just keep Woll, he’s looking pretty darn good and easily capable as being an NHL backup on top of being signed for another two years for under 800k…
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I think the easy and best move is to send Kerfoot out and bring in a quality defenseman, and just replace Kerfoot with Holmberg/Knies.
Bunting-Matthews-Nylander
Jarnkrok-Tavares-Marner
Knies-RoR-Holmberg
Engvall-Kampf-Acciari
McMann
ZAR
I know it's risky to have two rookies on the 3rd line, but I think RoR is too good defensively for it to be a problem. Holmberg and Knies also play very pro style games in spite of their age.
Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Liljegren
Giordano-Sandin
Holl
I think they really need a LHD who can push Giordano down to the 3rd pairing, like he was last year. Sandin and Giordano have just been a better pairing than Gio-Holl this year, probably because Sandin is a better player
Bunting-Matthews-Nylander
Jarnkrok-Tavares-Marner
Knies-RoR-Holmberg
Engvall-Kampf-Acciari
McMann
ZAR
I know it's risky to have two rookies on the 3rd line, but I think RoR is too good defensively for it to be a problem. Holmberg and Knies also play very pro style games in spite of their age.
Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Liljegren
Giordano-Sandin
Holl
I think they really need a LHD who can push Giordano down to the 3rd pairing, like he was last year. Sandin and Giordano have just been a better pairing than Gio-Holl this year, probably because Sandin is a better player
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2 firsts is the asking price? I thought it was 2 firsts + a good prospect + something else
The hilarious part is the longer this goes, the longer Arizona loses a huge reason why Chychrun is valuable, his term
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Thing about a Swiss Army knife, it can do eveything, but not very well. Who’s ever said “hey hon, can you grab me the Swiss Army knife?”Swiss Army Knife
More of a dull spoon, IMO.
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I thought so too. It the price is 2 firsts and they'd accept our picks in 24/25, why wouldn't we do that?
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The NHL and the NHLPA will have a talk about how players are being held out for trades and then no trades happen... becuase how long has he been out?
The year before he proved me and a lot of people wrong I think. af the playoffs he has just regressed back to his usual self which is funny since contract year. Was one of the reason I kind of was meh on Kadri return
kb
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More like one of those expensive stuff you got and thought it was nice but ends up in your basement, garage or crawl space bc even though it is useless, you don't want to throw it out bc it cost money to get.Swiss Army Knife
More of a dull spoon, IMO.
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I mean it could be the precursor to a Chychrun trade. They needed to take on cap.
This doesn't seem like a lot for how long that deal is though and the fact that they were able to get out of Dadonov's contract for taking it on.
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..and yet he's outperformed his contract equivalent peers... all of them.
He isn't far off his career pace of 0.5 PPG... yes, his scoring is a bit down this year... but then, his defensive game has also improved, with better on ice goals against.
He put up 6 points in 7 games in the playoffs two years ago....
While it's true he's a pretty vanilla guy, his results for his pay are pretty good. On a team that needs depth scoring, he provides it. Not everyone gets to be a superstar.... there are VERY FEW players on the market, who would actually be an improvement in scoring over Kerfoot. Sure, Kane, sure Meier... but at what cost? I mean, I think there is a deal for Kane that isn't too costly, if he insists on coming here, and I'd happily drive Kerfoot to the airport if that was the case... it's fine to want to move a player, but they as a hopeful contender, you actually have to improve on that spot....
In another words, he sucks, lol.
I don't think anyone expect him to be a great player, but what he provides is just not enough for the Leafs. Or a better way to put it, the dropoff in replacing Kerfoot with someone like Holmberg who is making 850k is not 2.6mil. Looking at Acciari or Kampf, they are both better fit for the Leafs than someone like Kerfoot. It is no accident that Kerfoot always find himself on the 4th line with the Leafs, like with Spezza and Jumbo two seasons ago or right now.
To me he is someone that can be a fit in the mid 6 but certainly not with the Leafs.
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No, in another word, he doesn't suck. He's just what you get for the contract.
At this point, to replace Kerfoot with Holmberg, is a downgrade of our lineup. We aren't in a position to be downgrading the lineup... I like Holmberg... a lot, and think perhaps by next year, he could replace Kerfoot in the lineup... but he can't right now, or hasn't shown that he can. I do agree that Acciari and Kampf are better fits in the lineup, that much is for sure.
But if you are dumping Kerfoot, it is to IMPROVE the lineup... there aren't a lot of options out there that do that.. in particular with the assets we have left.
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The fact that an NHL franchise needs to continually do this in order to remain cap compliant is pretty embarrassing as a professional sports league.
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That assumes Holmberg continues to drastically outperform his underlying numbers (which are subpar), maintains a 20% SH%, and Holmberg can be a strong PKer all the while handling far more defensive responsibility while Kerfoot, who is a 12% career shooter, continues to shoot at below 7%.
The dropoff could easily be 2.6 mill.
I would also say that Kerfoot always finding himself on the 4th line is a little bit misleading. He was literally in the top 6 for a few games before the Leafs brought in O'Reilly, and has spent the vast majority of his time in Toronto in our top 9. 2 of Acciari, Kampf, Engvall, Jarnkrok, or Kerfoot were going to end up on the 4th line... They are probably just putting Kerfoot there to start because he is the best suited to drive the line and be a playmaker, and they don't want it to just be a grit line or a line that has no offensive driver. Otherwise, he is a better fit for the 3rd line than Jarnkrok.
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