Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[SeaOfBlue]

Mayfield is not an upgrade on Holl, and NYI are not guaranteed sellers, so it doesn't really make any sense.

 

[jaric1862]

They probably add a defenceman but won’t be of Mayfields calibre.

Likely a #6 with some aggression

 

[rojac]

Mayfield is not an upgrade on Holl, and NYI are not guaranteed sellers, so it doesn't really make any sense.

And Friedman pretty much said that when he mentioned Mayfield. It was clearly Friedman just speculating on a player that might fit what the Leafs are looking for.

They probably add a defenceman but won’t be of Mayfields calibre.

Likely a #6 with some aggression

Or at least someone who can be a #6 with agression. That is, someone they can put in if they think they need that. Schenn might very well fit for that role.

 

[Leaffan1991]

Mayfield would be nice.

 

[LaPlante94]

For a little context on this, Friedman said that he doesn't know if Islanders will be sellers or even if Toronto would be interested, he was just throwing the name out there for something different because they asked who the Leafs might be interested in during the intermission.

 

[Eye Test]

For a little context on this, Friedman said that he doesn't know if Islanders will be sellers or even if Toronto would be interested, he was just throwing the name out there for something different because they asked who the Leafs might be interested in during the intermission.

Clutterbuck playing well this year ? He’d be a nice add

 

[Kiwi]

Mayfield would be nice.

They just brought in Horvat so I'd be extremely surprised if they started selling all of a sudden

 

[Gabriel426]

I did the ROR, ROR, ROR, lol
Then hours later, ROR is a Leafs.

Maybe I should do that for Kane too.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

For a little context on this, Friedman said that he doesn't know if Islanders will be sellers or even if Toronto would be interested, he was just throwing the name out there for something different because they asked who the Leafs might be interested in during the intermission.

Seems odd to bring up a guy who is likely not available and also is not a great fit for our team, but I guess he needs to bring up something to keep Leafs fans engaged.

Clutterbuck playing well this year ? He’d be a nice add

No, he hasn't played well for a while. Now he is dealing with injuries which are just making it worse.

At this point, he is an older version of ZAR... And the actual, younger ZAR is already looking at losing his spot to better players.

 

[rojac]

I am seriously thinking the Leafs shoiuld go for Kane if he is willing to come to Toronto. If I was Dubas, I'd be willing to go as high as the 2024 1st + Mitten, Robertson, or Niemela + Kerfoot. If it had to be that high, I'd see if I could get Chicago to provide the pick to a 3rd team for retention. If not, the Leafs might need to use a lesser prospect because they are getting seriously low on picks over the next few years.

They could also do it without a third team, if Chicago was willing to take both Kerfoot and Engvall, but that could take an extra prospect.

Bunting - Matthews - Kane
Jarnkrok - Tavares - Marner
Nylander - O'Reilly - Acciari
Ashton-Reese / Knies - Kampf - Anderson

Or if they don't need to move Engvall, put him on the 3rd line and move Acciari into Anderson's place on the 4th.

It might be nice if they could work it to also get Lafferty along with Kane. With 3rd team retention on Kane, the total cap hit for the Leafs would be $2.625 + $1.15M = $3.775M. If the Hawks would be willing to take Joey Anderson as part of the deal (or the Leafs could waive him), that would be enough and you'd be looking at something like:

Bunting - Matthews - Kane
Jarnkrok - Tavares - Marner
Engvall - O'Reilly - Nylander
Lafferty - Kampf - Acciari

Or maybe:

Nylander - Matthews - Kane
Jarnkrok - Tavares -Marner
Bunting - O'Reilly - Engvall
Lafferty - Kampf - Acciari

Of couse, I still worry that rrading so many futures might result in UFAs deciding not to re-sign here because they see less of a chance of future success. But if the Leafs are going to go all-in, they may as well go all the way in.

 

[APV]

Games like tonight are why you want to bring in Kane.. even in a reduce role he can be a huge game breaker at any time

can we still get this guy? always felt like he was he one to get....we have a massive top 6 wing hole. watching tavares & oreilly on the second line is like watching molasses drip. painfully slow and mitch is just a waterbug out there.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Four point night (1G,3A) for Domi.

I wasn't part of the pro-Domi camp before - mostly due to his poor defensive play - but now that we have Acciari and O'Rielly (two good D guys), I'm not as against bringing Domi in as an LW rental. I don't think it's going to cost very much. The cost/benefit may work in our favour. To avoid the effects of his full douchiness (and the distraction of the Marners vs Domis feud), you use him strictly as a playoff rental.

 

[DarkKnight]

I wasn't part of the pro-Domi camp before - mostly due to his poor defensive play - but now that we have Acciari and O'Rielly (two good D guys), I'm not as against bringing Domi in as an LW rental. I don't think it's going to cost very much. The cost/benefit may work in our favour. To avoid the effects of his full douchiness (and the distraction of the Marners vs Domis feud), you use him strictly as a playoff rental.

Domi in, Engvall out, I’d do all day long. With ROR and Acciari too now , we don’t need him at all on the PK, and even then he was bit piece, third forward group.

 

[stickty111]

can we still get this guy? always felt like he was he one to get....we have a massive top 6 wing hole. watching tavares & oreilly on the second line is like watching molasses drip. painfully slow and mitch is just a waterbug out there.

3rd line C was a problem and Kane wouldn't fix that. Expect ROR to be 3rd line C eventually.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Absolutely HELL no to Domi, keep him and his POS father away from this team.

 

[APV]

3rd line C was a problem and Kane wouldn't fix that. Expect ROR to be 3rd line C eventually.

Unfortunately we have more than 1 hole. 2LW is gaping when ROR goes down to 3C. We badly need a winger that can play with Marner/Tavares or Nylander/Tavares. Jarnkrok or Kerfoot are not it, and JT playing the wing is not it either.

 

[SprDaVE]

I'd be shocked if there's any sort of possibility about Kane to the Leafs. He pretty much removed any potential of that by saying what he said. Obviously a lot of that can change but based on our assets available, our cap space and our needs, it doesn't make much sense to me anymore.

I'd expect the Leafs to look at much less expensive players to acquire between now and the deadline. I don't see anything happening until probably the last day or so of the deadline to see if the needs will change by then based on injuries.

Right now, I'd definitely have Hathaway high on my list of targets if the Caps want to sell off a bit.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Has there been any mention of the asking price for Ekholm? I haven't seen anything

 

[SprDaVE]

Has there been any mention of the asking price for Ekholm? I haven't seen anything

Probably because they don't want to trade him unless there's a big over pay.

 

[Beaumaris]

Trade him.

Extend Samsonov and run Woll as the backup.

OUCH!

 

[Twine Tickler]

"I don't think there's really, at least that I know of, much discussion of that being an option. There's a lot of different reports out there, and not all of them are true. So, gotta be careful what you listen to."

The Score's headline to this quote is that Kane "ruled out" Toronto as a possible destination. I am not sure how this quote suggests that Kane does not want to come to the Leafs or would at the very least not entertain coming to the Leafs. IMO, he is saying he has not yet been approached by management or his agent to waive a deal to the Leafs. That is usually how these things pan out. If we need any proof of such just look at Matt Murray nixing a deal to Buffalo this past offseason, or Kadri to Calgary in 2019. The team will negotiate a Trade in principle, and then ask the player to waive their NMC thereafter.

By saying "that I know of" kind of suggests that he dosn't know our interest in him. Not the other way around. I'm pretty sure he'd be OK disclosing his interest in coming to the Leafs and/or at least wouldn't suggest that he doesn't know his own interest level in that.

That said, it does appear clear that Toronto does not appear to be a front runner in this discussion. But what if Toronto is one of the only teams Patty wants to go to?? What if we are the only team he'd waive to go to??? so many things remain unknown, and that quote doesn't answer any of that. He could just as easily been sending a f*** you via the media to Leafs management saying, "I want to be a Leaf, but as far as I am aware, They don't want me. So don't believe everything you hear in the media....etc"

So funny how obsessed the media is at creating a storyline from nothing.

 

[smitty10]

If I was Dubas I would be looking at a 3C who can chip in with offense in case one of the big 2 goes down in the playoff that way it keeps Kerfoot away from C.

I would be looking to upgrade on Holl as you have Timmins waiting in the wings as a backup.

for 3C you are looking at a Nick Bonino situation in Pit when he played behind Crosby and Malkin and gave them good offense along with Kessel on their Cup runs.

Is Luke Scheen an upgrade on Holl as the 3rd pairing D for the playoffs? Is Schenn more reliable than Holl? You will have Broadie and Lilly on the right side with Timmins in case of injury. Left you have Rielly, Sandin, and Gio with Benn in next.

Nick Bugstad for your 3C who is a big boy plus Schenn is around 1.8 mill. You deal Holl for one of those players and a B-level prospect you added without really subtracting.

You were pretty bang on in terms of the major add for the Leafs. Fortunately, even better than the names you suggested!

My guess is that ROR will end up as the 3C. Giving him the 2C spot off the hop was probably due to comfort level and easing him into the lineup.

I'm still hoping for an upgrade on Holl. With him and Timmins rotating in and out, I think that's a sign that the Leafs are really feeling things out before pulling the trigger on an add. This will almost certainly be dealt with in the coming days.

 

[Brobust]

I still think they need another forward.

They're very close to being able to run 4 strong lines with 4 duos.

34-88
91-16
90-x
64-47

 

[horner]

Agreed, I just don’t see Kyle dropping a ton more assets on a big fish D, so if we do anything it’ll be more depth.

Money out money in.
Kerfoot trade
Holl trade

Use the picks + Rbertson for a dman

Soucy from Seattle would be perfect

I think Holmberg or McMann can replace kerfoot on the 4th line

 

[D00bis]

Wonder if the leafs could get Tanner Jeannot outta Nashville, he’d create a lot of space and chaos in the playoffs. Having an off year and only making 800,000