Trades and Free Agency 2021 | Trade Deadline 6 weeks away

[Cor]

kerf for savard?

I make that trade faster then a heart beat

Our entire top 4 is better than him, and we aren't weakening our forward depth futher to acquire a pending UFA to break up dermott-bogosian, who have been one of the most effective bottom pairings in the league.

We are already looking to acquire a forward. We aren't trading a forward for a d-man.


We don't make that trade, at all.

 

[Magic Man]

We would definitely keep our forward depth on that one. On the right side I like everything I'm seeing right now and with Kap and Johnsson gone the forward depth is a little weak, especially given all the injuries up front. I'd prefer they leave the defense alone and promote Liljegren and Sandin when necessary. Unless they're getting someone better than Marincin for the taxi squad for nickels. I'd leave it be.

 

[BlueForever75]

Our entire top 4 is better than him, and we aren't weakening our forward depth futher to acquire a pending UFA to break up dermott-bogosian, who have been one of the most effective bottom pairings in the league.

We are already looking to acquire a forward. We aren't trading a forward for a d-man.


We don't make that trade, at all.

I agree why would we touch our defense that is playing well through all pairings? This is the first deadline in a long time that defense isnt and shouldnt be looked at for a prospective deal.

Now that being said, if a player like Doughty or Ekblad or Hedman or Jones or someone of #1 quality becomes available for the right price that is different. But I am not touching dmen like Savard when our D is perfectly fine with what we have.

 

[Critical13]

Please stop trying to trade Kerfoot unless it's for a similar or better type of player with term.

We don't need any more #3-6 defencemen or old/slow #3Cs.

 

[Duke16]

I dont see Nashville trading Forsberg unless its for a giant return

Tbh, with a year left on his deal, they should be able to get an A-level prospect with a couple other less significant adds.

I could see his retained value being in the range of Mark Stone's rental value considering he has that extra year (so like Sandin, Engvall, and a 2nd from Toronto), but the Kerfoot/Amirov/Niemela/1st thread on the main boards is ridiculous

And to be honest, with expansion coming, I don't know that I pay that price

 

[Not My Tempo]

Please stop trying to trade Kerfoot unless it's for a similar or better type of player with term.

We don't need any more #3-6 defencemen or old/slow #3Cs.

Exactly, let's see the next few weeks how Kerfoot is with Tavares and Nylander. He might surprise us. If he's a solid top 6 winger, having him for 3.5M will be good value.

 

[Cor]

Please stop trying to trade Kerfoot unless it's for a similar or better type of player with term.

We don't need any more #3-6 defencemen or old/slow #3Cs.

Yeah, we need to be adding to the team. It's why I like a Staal addition. Both Staal and Kerfoot can play the 3C or W role, depending on how things are going or the matchup. Staal can be added without subtracting from our roster (other than waiving Vesey).

Guys like Granlund, Foligno, etc require us to subtract a Kerfoot or a Engvall from our depth, and at that point, it's doing a disservice anyway. I like Granlund and Foligno as UFA targets, but don't make sense right now.

Goal should be that Engvall, Spezza and Simmonds will be our fourth line entering the playoffs, while still having Boyd, Barbanov, Robertson, Agostino, Petan, Vesey, Galchenyuk etc who can all play if needed, depending on what role we need filled.

It doesn't even need to be Staal, but someone that can fit into our cap structure without removing engvall or kerfoot.

 

[Sypher04]

I'm torn. I want us to have the deepest, best team possible to take our run this year, but at the same time, I don't want to give up notable assets to get someone really good that we won't end up being able to protect from expansion.

 

[Sypher04]

Yeah, we need to be adding to the team. It's why I like a Staal addition. Both Staal and Kerfoot can play the 3C or W role, depending on how things are going or the matchup. Staal can be added without subtracting from our roster (other than waiving Vesey).

Guys like Granlund, Foligno, etc require us to subtract a Kerfoot or a Engvall from our depth, and at that point, it's doing a disservice anyway. I like Granlund and Foligno as UFA targets, but don't make sense right now.

Goal should be that Engvall, Spezza and Simmonds will be our fourth line entering the playoffs, while still having Boyd, Barbanov, Robertson, Agostino, Petan, Vesey, Galchenyuk etc who can all play if needed, depending on what role we need filled.

It doesn't even need to be Staal, but someone that can fit into our cap structure without removing engvall or kerfoot.

If we waited until close to the deadline, had Nashville retain half of Granlund's salary and we moved a lesser roster player in the deal it could be done without giving up an Engvall or Kerfoot. It would be very tight though.

 

[hamzarocks]

Please stop trying to trade Kerfoot unless it's for a similar or better type of player with term.

We don't need any more #3-6 defencemen or old/slow #3Cs.

Nah the leafs could definately utilize another 3-6 defender. A guy like savard would be great add and would allow us to push either Dermott/Bogo out the lineup creating elite depth.

It also helps ensure that in case we see muzzin/brodie injured again we arent going to be left hanging again. Our defense struggled without muzzin vs CBJ and injuries happen fairly often come playoffs. Adding savard or a comparable level player gives us the best defense core in the league.

Now I agree that kerfoot should not be moved for Savard. We are a contender and the 2nd best team in the league after the Bolts. Contenders should not/don't add a player by giving up a useful and important roster peice especially for a UFA. Kerfoot wont be moved for Savard. If he got dealt it would be in a package along with a high prospect and picks for a elite winger signed with term who would be here for multiple playoff runs

If we are trading for Savard or some other similar level player it should he a 2nd+ B prospect for him at 50% along with Vesey to make caps work

 

[Warden of the North]

Please stop trying to trade Kerfoot unless it's for a similar or better type of player with term.

We don't need any more #3-6 defencemen or old/slow #3Cs.

His offensive output could likely be found with a player making less money. Hes not overpaid, hes just not overplaying the money hes owed. IMO Dubas and scouts have shown they can find plug and play pieces to fit.

Even if his replacement doesnt exactly match his output, the cap dollars could be moved around to better fit the roster anyways.

 

[LeafParade]

Has anyone figured out what kind of salary the Leafs can take in a trade without sending out Kerfoot/Engvall?

Are we talking ~1.6 M?
Staal at 50% retention is still 1.625 M.

 

[hockeywiz542]

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A CROWDED MARKET PLAYS IN FAVOUR OF THE BUYERS

So if there are going to be few motivated sellers and not many teams looking to take on money anyway, there just may not be enough chairs for every trade candidate to land in.

If a Filip Forsberg or a Jack Eichel or a Johnny Gaudreau became available, then all bets are off and we could get our second blockbuster of the season. Those deals could happen under any sort of conditions as long as the cap works.

But outside of those big names, you could find a lot of players who do similar things become available. They'd all be sought after in some way by a team that wants to add depth and go for it, but those teams could be very particular about their decisions.

Let's go back to Vancouver again and take Brandon Sutter as an example. He's 32, a checking third- or fourth-liner at the valued centre position, and he's in the last year of his contract. There is no financial commitment to make to him beyond this season.

But how many players like him could be available? Sam Bennett has requested a trade from Calgary and has regularly stepped up his play in the post-season. Luke Glendening could be traded off by rebuilding Detroit. Erik Haula in Nashville, Artem Anisimov in Ottawa. There are a range of centres just on "white flag" teams and in the final year of their deals. More names will surely be added to this list of prospective trade targets.

It won't necessarily mean a lot of deals happen, or that all of them even move.

"The problem is how many Brandon Sutter-like players will be out there?" Friedman said. "So the teams that are actually taking on money they can afford to be picky and choosy and say 'we'll wait until either the perfect player we want or the least return we can give up.'"

NASHVILLE OPEN TO ALL OPTIONS

A horrendous start to the season leaves almost everything on the table in Nashville.

Even Mattias Ekholm is appearing on trade lists.

Nashville is sitting 25th in the league by points percentage and second-last in the Central. Their special teams are a mess and a minus-17 goal differential shows this isn't just a minor run of bad luck. GM David Poile may have to change his core, though the biggest moves possibly have to wait until the off-season.

Among those possibilities include Ekholm, Filip Forsberg or Viktor Arvidsson. More likely to move this season could be the likes of Mikael Granlund or Erik Haula, two pending UFAs.

"I think Nashville at the very least what they've done is they've let everybody know this is where we are and if you're serious come talk to us and I think teams that are interested in adding or think they have a chance or are really interested in one of those players, I think they're fielding the market," Friedman said.

"I don't know for sure that Forsberg is going to get dealt, but I think Nashville knows who is interested."

Friedman had previously reported the untouchables on Nashville were Roman Josi, Ryan Ellis and Pekka Rinne.

 

[barilko05]

he is 36 ,,,,not many cup chances left

it's fair to say,,we are showing to be a true contender AND

we have shown,,we know how to use VETS like him with respect and purpose

He's already got his cup (and his money) but maybe he takes another shot with us. Lord knows he's not going to get it in Buffalo.

 

[Face Of Bear]

Forsberg would be an insane addition. I'd put any of our picks/prospects on the table if we could land him.

Acquire Forsberg, trade Dermott and get someone like Savard. That would be a really good roster to compete for the cup with.

 

[Sypher04]

Forsberg would be an insane addition. I'd put any of our picks/prospects on the table if we could land him.

Acquire Forsberg, trade Dermott and get someone like Savard. That would be a really good roster to compete for the cup with.

Given our defensive improvement this season and the step Holl has taken, it feel unlikely to me we aren't going 4F, 4D for the expansion draft. So, I just don't think it's smart to trade major assets to acquire Forsberg just to not be able to protect him...

 

[Warden of the North]

Has anyone figured out what kind of salary the Leafs can take in a trade without sending out Kerfoot/Engvall?

Are we talking ~1.6 M?
Staal at 50% retention is still 1.625 M.

If I used the calculator right at Capfriendly, the Leafs would have to move out about $750,000 to take on the full value of Staal (no retention).

A players cap hit is calculated daily, so its decreasing every day closer we get to the deadline.

 

[Puckstuff]

Forsberg would be an insane addition. I'd put any of our picks/prospects on the table if we could land him.

Acquire Forsberg, trade Dermott and get someone like Savard. That would be a really good roster to compete for the cup with.

Forsberg doesn't make sense without moving Nylander in the offseason

I think a more likely trade is a pending UFA like Pearson and in a dream scenario Getzlaf if they can convince him to come

 

[Faltorvo]

Our entire top 4 is better than him, and we aren't weakening our forward depth futher to acquire a pending UFA to break up dermott-bogosian, who have been one of the most effective bottom pairings in the league.

We are already looking to acquire a forward. We aren't trading a forward for a d-man.


We don't make that trade, at all.

forward depth is the least of our worries

we are 1 D injury away from depending on guys with 9 to 30 career NHL games played

now that is shallow depth

 

[TMLAM34]

Getzlaf would be awesome but there’s almost like no chance that happens, especially considering his salary is 8 million... You’d need two teams retaining 50% to make it possible lol

 

[Faltorvo]

We would definitely keep our forward depth on that one. On the right side I like everything I'm seeing right now and with Kap and Johnsson gone the forward depth is a little weak, especially given all the injuries up front. I'd prefer they leave the defense alone and promote Liljegren and Sandin when necessary. Unless they're getting someone better than Marincin for the taxi squad for nickels. I'd leave it be.

You do know that Sandin is out with a broken foot,,ya?

 

[Magic Man]

You do know that Sandin is out with a broken foot,,ya?

Yep, Liljegren needs some reps anyway.

 

[Faltorvo]

He's already got his cup (and his money) but maybe he takes another shot with us. Lord knows he's not going to get it in Buffalo.

well thats the hidden beauty of a NTC

you can tell what players still have the passion for another shot at the cup

if he waives to come here, then we know he still has some fire in the belly ,,i don't want a tapped out player ,no matter what his name is.

 

[Faltorvo]

If I used the calculator right at Capfriendly, the Leafs would have to move out about $750,000 to take on the full value of Staal (no retention).

A players cap hit is calculated daily, so its decreasing every day closer we get to the deadline.

did you include,,who ever we ship to the taxi?

 

[Faltorvo]

Forsberg doesn't make sense without moving Nylander in the offseason

I think a more likely trade is a pending UFA like Pearson and in a dream scenario Getzlaf if they can convince him to come

i tried adding Getz

i can't find any rational way to make that cap hit fit

his is well over double Staals C hit