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Kiwi said:
Granlund is a top 6 wing option but any time i have an interaction with that fan base they're pretty adamant he's not a center
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Oh I thought he was a C. My bad. I would still love to add him or Rackall.
 
With the emergence of Engvall, maybe they don’t need a top 6 F, since they can just slide Kerfoot up?

I wouldn’t be surprised if they add something small like Haula.
 
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jaric1862 said:
With the emergence of Engvall, maybe they don’t need a top 6 F, since they can just slide Kerfoot up?

I wouldn’t be surprised if they add something small like Haula.
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Haula is the guy I have been pushing. He can play 3C, and if we want to keep Engvall in the lineup instead of trading him, we can put him at 4LW instead of Vesey, Robertson, or Galchenyuk. Or we can put Haula on the 4th line to split center duties with Spezza if Engvall stays on the 3rd line.

Best thing is Haula won't cost us anything much. If we wanted to keep Engvall, we could give up Vesey + prospect + 4th for Haula at 50% and then Nashville can flip Vesey for another mid-round pick right away.
 
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Don’t know how he has been doing but bringing Dylan stroke home to be our 3C?
He’s making 3M this year and next
If they retain alittle makes it even better
Is he any good though
Hes feisty but I remember him being slow and poor skater?
 
Early days yet, but I'm excited about the combination of, Mikheyev/Engvall/Hyman. If they can continue their superior work in shutting down the opposition - and they should be given the opportunity to see if they can - I'd strongly consider moving Kerfoot + for Filip Forsberg. Pay a premium to Nashville to hold 50% and our top two lines would be awesome, followed by the wingspans of two condors and an ever moving Hyman.

To Nashville: Kerfoot, Amirov and a 1st (start a bit lower if you'd like and move up as required)
To Toronto: Forsberg and a 3rd.

Jumbo Matty Nylander
Forsberg Tavares Marner
Mikky Engvall Hyman
Barabanov Spezza Simmonds
 
Knowing Mikheyev-Engvall-Hyman works has been an important experiment, but I'd still add a capable middle-six forward (or better).

Boyd has been solid, but I think he's tapered off a little from his hot start. He can draw out, but he'll be the clear 13th F.

Thornton - Matthews - Marner
Kerfoot/Trade - Tavares - Nylander
Mikheyev - Kerfoot/Trade - Hyman
Simmonds - Engvall - Spezza
Boyd

Vesey, Barabanov, Petan, Galchenyuk, Robertson, Anderson, Brooks, Agostino as options (one of the former three is likely the trade throw-in)
 
Guys.. I don't think we need much.. but Eric Staal (50% retention) is looking more and more someone I would want to tip off the roster. I would hope we wouldn't have to give up any player for a rental and hope a 2nd and 3rd would do it, but it might take Engvall and a 2nd.. but assuming picks could pull the trigger to acquire Staal on a bad sabers team. It's a stretch but think about it.

Once the roster is fully healthy

Thornton - Matthews - Marner
Kerfoot/Simmonds - JT - Nylander
Hyman - Staal - Kerfoot/Simmonds
Spezza - Engvall - Soup
Or any of..
Gally/petan/Boyd/Engvall - Engvall/Boyd - Soup/Spezza


Pp1
Thornton - Matthews - Marner
Simmonds - Reilly

Pp2
Staal - JT - Nylander
Spezza - Brodie

The depth is endless.

Staal with lesser competition and experience, skill and leadership on the 3rd line... Having top end puck retrievers feeding him pucks.. while concentrating on shutting down players.. is huge and gives us even more flexibility!
 
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Honestly with the way Hyman - Engvall - Mikheyev have played together, I think the clear upgrade would be on the second line LW upgrading on Kerfoot (who hasn’t looked bad either). Obviously we have to see how this new third line continues to play.
 
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With Kerfoot looking comfortable on the wing, it certainly looks like a center is more priority than a winger at this point.

Staal checks a lot of boxes for me, honestly. At 50% retention, he fits in cap wise. We can send Vesey the other way or waive him off the roster to bring the cap add to 100K.

He slides in at 3C, but Staal has also played W before as well, meaning we can even try him beside Tavares and Nylander and have Kerfoot back at 3C, depending on matchup. Versatility is always a good thing.

Plus, when we are running a stacked PP1, our PP2 uh, lacks a bit, so he can help there. He also tends to win more draws than he loses.
 
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meefer said:
Early days yet, but I'm excited about the combination of, Mikheyev/Engvall/Hyman. If they can continue their superior work in shutting down the opposition - and they should be given the opportunity to see if they can - I'd strongly consider moving Kerfoot + for Filip Forsberg. Pay a premium to Nashville to hold 50% and our top two lines would be awesome, followed by the wingspans of two condors and an ever moving Hyman.

To Nashville: Kerfoot, Amirov and a 1st (start a bit lower if you'd like and move up as required)
To Toronto: Forsberg and a 3rd.

Jumbo Matty Nylander
Forsberg Tavares Marner
Mikky Engvall Hyman
Barabanov Spezza Simmonds
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I LOVE Forsberg, but if I'm trading for a true top 6 scoring forward, I think I'd prefer Rackell, who I think is about 80% of Forsberg, would be 1.9 million for the next two years (retained) and would be considerably cheaper to trade for, IMO. Forsberg is awesome, but he'll cost you at least 2 HIGH end assets on top of Kerfoot, where as Rackell costs you considerably less.

Damn Forsberg is good though. Would probably cost Kerfoot, Amirov, 2021 1st round pick and something like Hallander, Anderson or Hirvonen. That's a good package for the Predators, who would flip Kerfoot and turn him into another 2nd round pick.

JMO.
 
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Honestly think we need a guy in the same category as a Coleman, Goodrow, Maroon etc. for the playoffs. Basically a poor man's Hyman. These are the kind of guys that elevate in the playoffs. Without looking at salaries, guys like Cizikas, Foligno, Bonino, Lowry.

That said, Simmonds coming back will be huge as I am pretty confident he'll be that heart and soul guy in the playoffs.
 
In order to acquire Foligno given his salary, Kerfoot would have to be in the deal. I’m not sure if it’s worth doing so given Foligno is a UFA after this season. He would be a real nice addition though.
 
TMLAM34 said:
In order to acquire Foligno given his salary, Kerfoot would have to be in the deal. I’m not sure if it’s worth doing so given Foligno is a UFA after this season. He would be a real nice addition though.
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one year left they may retain on him
 
IrishInOntario said:
I LOVE Forsberg, but if I'm trading for a true top 6 scoring forward, I think I'd prefer Rackell, who I think is about 80% of Forsberg, would be 1.9 million for the next two years (retained) and would be considerably cheaper to trade for, IMO. Forsberg is awesome, but he'll cost you at least 2 HIGH end assets on top of Kerfoot, where as Rackell costs you considerably less.

Damn Forsberg is good though. Would probably cost Kerfoot, Amirov, 2021 1st round pick and something like Hallander, Anderson or Hirvonen. That's a good package for the Predators, who would flip Kerfoot and turn him into another 2nd round pick.

JMO.
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I'm only a stat watcher when it comes to Rackell, by numbers alone his play has dropped. That said, others like you have suggested he's a good target.

Adding a Hallander, Anderson or Hirvonen to the other pieces...eh, I'm not sure I'd go that far. Though, I think he would be a perfect compliment to Tavares and Marner.

The thing I find most appealing about the way the team is playing is that many of the suggestions here appear to work, at various levels/lines. To me this suggests we're very close to being a complete team. Our two best players are playing brilliantly. Our next two best at F are playing well, with the rest contributing and rounding into a cohesive group as a whole. Defense is better than in decades. We seem to have 3 goalies who can stop pucks. They appear to like each other and are standing up for each other more than in the recent past. This suggests to me that we're close. Does Dubas try to hit a homer and show the boys the belief he has in them, is a double enough, or do we play small ball to just chip away any negative issues.

Interesting days ahead.
 
Looking into Foligno a bit more, his play is on a steady decline. I am not sure I would be comfortable giving up Kerfoot for him, even if we brought in Staal after. I think Foligno 100% could be a UFA target for us though, depending on what contract he'd like. Perhaps Dubas can sell him on coming to Toronto on a one year, friendly deal, to play beside Tavares and Nylander on a contender. (or even Matthews-Marner, assuming this is Thornton's last run). His dad was a fan favorite here and I'm sure he'd be too.

I think deadline wise, Eric Staal is our best target. From Ontario. Can play either C or W. Salary will fit easily at 50% retained. Shouldn't cost more than a 2nd + decent prospect (I am thinking Mike Koster). Might need to add in a lower level prospect (I am thinking the Plekanec deal we made a couple years ago is a good comparable).

With Foligno, even at 50% with Engvall going the other way, it doesn't fit. We'd NEED to send Kerfoot, the other way, and I am not a fan of that subtraction in-season.

We wouldn't need to subtract from our roster to add Staal, and that's why he's my top choice.
 
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Cor said:
With Kerfoot looking comfortable on the wing, it certainly looks like a center is more priority than a winger at this point.

Staal checks a lot of boxes for me, honestly. At 50% retention, he fits in cap wise. We can send Vesey the other way or waive him off the roster to bring the cap add to 100K.

He slides in at 3C, but Staal has also played W before as well, meaning we can even try him beside Tavares and Nylander and have Kerfoot back at 3C, depending on matchup. Versatility is always a good thing.

Plus, when we are running a stacked PP1, our PP2 uh, lacks a bit, so he can help there. He also tends to win more draws than he loses.
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Yeah I think at this time, Staal makes perfect sense. He'll be in high demand though so I think the Leafs might have to "overpay" to get him.

There aren't many natural centers up for grabs that would fit our needs. Haula might be the only other name that fits.
 
Not sure why everyone wants Staal. I don't think Dubas really even sees him as a realistic target or fit. Thornton, Spezza already don't get many reps at C and simarily, Staal is not a great skater that can push pace and get back on the other end either. Not too sure our system is conducive to that type of C. He worked in Minny because they placed a slower, dump and chase cycle game.

I think it's pretty clear Keefe likes to employ centers that can make up a lot of ground on the ice, so skating is an absolute requisite, which is why he seems to play Engvall a lot in the middle of the ice.

Haula would be a decent fit if we really needed a C on the other hand though. He already played a similar, up tempo, possession-heavy style with Gallant already. Personally, I'm disappointed we didn't pay a kings ransom for Dubois...not too sure if we had the package to match the Jets though.
 
firstemperor said:
Not sure why everyone wants Staal. I don't think Dubas really even sees him as a realistic target or fit. Thornton, Spezza already don't get many reps at C and simarily, Staal is not a great skater that can push pace and get back on the other end either. Not too sure our system is conducive to that type of C. He worked in Minny because they placed a slower, dump and chase cycle game.

I think it's pretty clear Keefe likes to employ centers that can make up a lot of ground on the ice, so skating is an absolute requisite, which is why he seems to play Engvall a lot in the middle of the ice.

Haula would be a decent fit if we really needed a C on the other hand though. He already played a similar, up tempo, possession-heavy style with Gallant already. Personally, I'm disappointed we didn't pay a kings ransom for Dubois...not too sure if we had the package to match the Jets though.
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While Staal isn't a speedster, he makes up for it with great strength and obviously gets around just fine. If Tavares can be a top tier defensive center and play well within the system, so can Staal.

Staal checks the boxes of being a veteran, very good on faceoffs, puts up a respectable 50+ points every single year and can play with an edge. Play him with Mikheyev and Hyman, and that line would be more than fine with skating and forechecking.
 
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