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Where is that from? Id be curious to know since 7:26 PM is still 6 hours away
Maybe they'll come to terms at 7:26 PM?
darko
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No reason why Cally cant fetch a 1st rounder and a prospect. Keeping him and letting him walk away for nothing is horrible management.
silverfish
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Not if you think the difference between having Callahan and having a prospect and an extra first round pick is one or two playoff series
I want to trade him. Just playing devil's advocate
Let Blaine Die
Holden out 4 a hero
Where is that from? Id be curious to know since 7:26 PM is still 6 hours away
I think Rotter meant AM. Just a mistype.
Amazing what one game will do. Sums up how schizo this board is. I was at the game, and I briefly was cursing why we have to trade Cally, but letting him walk for 0 would be embarrassing.
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
I think Rotter meant AM. Just a mistype.
Amazing what one game will do. Sums up how schizo this board is. I was at the game, and I briefly was cursing why we have to trade Cally, but letting him walk for 0 would be embarrassing.
Agreed. We need assets for him.
The Rangers will need Rick Nash to really elevate his game for the Rangers to do damage in the playoffs. He was terrible last spring which was his 2nd post season of his career. Do you believe he can do it? Or will he be afraid to touch the puck and disappear?
Blue Blooded
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I see discussion of "complete" teams and I'll say this:
The Rangers aren't the best team in the league, but I think we are the most complete team in the league, or at least close to it. We could be better, but we are at the very least "OK" at each position. Three strong lines that can drive play and score, an excellent 4th line, three solid D-pairings, and a world-class goaltending tandem.
Chicago is a better team, but they have a hole in net despite throwing money at Crawford.
St. Louis also lacks goaltending.
The Sharks are similarly complete, though their depth is a bit shaky and Boyle and Niemi aren't what they used to be.
LA's forward corps is flawed at best and Quick is mediocre.
The Bruins have Chara, but otherwise their defensive corps aint that great. They lack a bit of skill upfront as well.
The Pens are a joke and should be falling back to earth anytime soon. Their bottom-6 is AHL-quality and their defence is slow. Their stars can't carry them all the way.
The Rangers aren't the best team in the league, but I think we are the most complete team in the league, or at least close to it. We could be better, but we are at the very least "OK" at each position. Three strong lines that can drive play and score, an excellent 4th line, three solid D-pairings, and a world-class goaltending tandem.
Chicago is a better team, but they have a hole in net despite throwing money at Crawford.
St. Louis also lacks goaltending.
The Sharks are similarly complete, though their depth is a bit shaky and Boyle and Niemi aren't what they used to be.
LA's forward corps is flawed at best and Quick is mediocre.
The Bruins have Chara, but otherwise their defensive corps aint that great. They lack a bit of skill upfront as well.
The Pens are a joke and should be falling back to earth anytime soon. Their bottom-6 is AHL-quality and their defence is slow. Their stars can't carry them all the way.
The Gloaming
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Right. And then have a 2nd round exit and then let him go for nothing in July. Brilliant.
He seems to be gaining confidence, but that can all disappear with a big bump in the playoffs.
The guy who generally excel in the playoffs seem to not only perform well in physical games, but also seem to relish them. I get the impression Rick Nash would love if the NHL became a non-checking league.
LaffyTaffyNYR
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Where is that from? Id be curious to know since 7:26 PM is still 6 hours away
lol.. snyrangersblog.com sorry forgot the link.
I'm assuming he meant AM...
No offense, but a homer from another team can cast aside the Rangers in much the same way.
While the depth is OK, they continue to lack a dynamic playmaker down the middle and on the blueline. This has been a problem forever.
Im glad I saw this before I left. Now this was the question before Callahan/Girardi became the question and will once again become the question before long. We, as fans better hope he can do it.
Blue Blooded
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We could definitely upgrade our team, Chicago is better than us despite their hole. Just because we are complete it doesn't make us the best.
But while having a "complete" team is nice, it makes it a lot harder to upgrade the team. We don't really have an overabundance at one position and a hole at another, that would make an upgrade easy. We would need an RW for an RW, a C for a C etc. Those trades are a lot harder to make.
I said before the season that I thought our roster was the best in the East, and I still stand by that although I think Boston are very close. At least three teams in the West are better though.
Miller Time NYR
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Serious question, for those of you who want to keep Callahan and make a run, hypothetically if Callahan wasnt on this team and played for say Ottowa or Florida, would you trade A first, Miller, and Fast for Callahan to try and get us over the hump? Because if we keep him to make a run at it were going to loose him for nothing in free agency and we can easily get a first+ right now.
Honestly I think this team can make a run at it without Callahan, if Nash steps up and we get someone in return for Callahan who can play middle 6 rw minutes I think were still a very competitive team.
Honestly I think this team can make a run at it without Callahan, if Nash steps up and we get someone in return for Callahan who can play middle 6 rw minutes I think were still a very competitive team.
I have a hard time buying into the "anything can happen" in the playoffs mentality when we have a lot of players on this roster who haven't exactly developed a "playoff gear" in their games thus far in their career. Nash was terrible in the playoffs last year. Stepan was terrible. Callahan has been largely mediocre. Richards is a long way from his Conn Smythe days. Pouliot and Brassard are highly inconsistent players regardless of what part of the season they're in.
So basically it's back to "hope Hank steals us a series or two" if none of these players can elevate their game to where it needs to be. I might be alone, but that's not exactly confidence inspiring.
So basically it's back to "hope Hank steals us a series or two" if none of these players can elevate their game to where it needs to be. I might be alone, but that's not exactly confidence inspiring.
Miller Time NYR
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The same people who wanted AV canned now think this teams going to the finals, funny how that works....
silverfish
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Beer League Sniper
Homeless Man's Rick Nash
You only make the decision to keep Callahan if you're a legit contender, or you're not getting any trade offers worth considering. As dense as our front office is, they can't seriously believe that we're true contenders, and a deal is out there for Callahan, I'm sure.
Get value for Callahan and move on from this situation.
Get value for Callahan and move on from this situation.
haveandare
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You mean fans, who are totally unplugged from the behind the scenes goings on of the team, base their opinions on results? Weird.
tjs252
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I agree with you to an extent and we're a long way from the start of the playoffs...but:
Our D in general, and Staal in particular are playing brilliantly and now with Del Zotto moved, no one is playing out of position or being asked to be something they're not. We finally have 3 pairings that make sense.
Nash is playing, certainly, his best hockey as a Ranger and arguably playing at a dominance level the Rangers haven't gotten from a winger since Jagr in 05/06 (though that may be a stretch, I admit).
The team has two lines that make a lot of sense and can be problems in the playoffs. The bottom 6 may be a hodgepodge but it isn't a true weakness.
The notion of asking Henrik to steal us a series or two is, I agree, somewhat of a problem but based on what we're paying him (and thereby expecting of him) it's arguably by design and not by accident. I'm not saying it's a wise decision, but that's going to be, for better or worse, the plan for the next 8 years.
I feel really good about our chances to do some damage with this team. I'd like it a lot more if we could add a talented bottom 6 piece (like Goc from Florida) and rely less on Boyle/Moore, but right now, unless the Rangers get a massive overpayment for Callahan (and let's be honest, if that were happening it would have happened by now) I like this team's chances more than I like the chances of a quick rebuild being successful to still enable us to make a run with in-his-prime Henrik.
I get what you're saying and as the team is currently playing, I agree to a pretty big extent. The Rangers are getting production from all of their lines and when one lines goes cold the other ones are picking up the slack. This is how the Bruins won their cup and remain so competitive, they can roll 4 lines and put pressure on you the entire time.
But the players on the rangers lines aren't terrible consistent themselves and it's entirely possible for them all to go cold at the same time, and yeah more high end talent would be hugely beneficial. Hard to add that though.
The entire team looked like they had no idea what to do for over a quarter of the season. Guys we've relied on to do the heavy lifting in the past played like they were just learning the sport. The biggest goal for the first half of the season was to get above .500 and pray they were able to stay there, and that in itself was a major accomplishment. They looked like bottom-feeders when playing against bottom-feeders. It's not too far-fetched to look back and see why people thought AV's system didn't fit this team and the "way it was built" (whatever way that was/is).
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