Speculation: Trade Speculation Part III

[Scott04]

Counter

Salvador + Poni

for

Kane + Enstrom + First

Seems Legit!

I wouldn't want to give up Salvador and Ponikarovsky so cheap. Might need to also bring in a conditional 3rd round pick from Winnipeg to keep it balanced.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I don't see Zubrus leaving. He's a perfect forward for the Devils and Lou knows that. He's not that attractive that he'd fetch that much in the open market either, especially coming off an injury. Lou will sign him.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Salvador and tedenby for Ladd.

 

[EnglishDevil]

I expect Elias to get a 3 year deal with an AAV of around 5.5M.

Clarkson is a hard one to place a value on, after a 30 goal season and his hot start this year, it'll be interesting to see what he ends up with. I'm personally hoping for something around 4.5M but i could see him getting a little more depending on how he finishes out this season.

I agree with the notion that Zubrus may not return next year, although i'd love to have him back at around 3M for a couple of years i get the feeling he might get a better deal elsewhere. Clarkson and Elias will definitely be re-signed though, and rightfully so; along with Zajac, Kovalchuk and Henrique that gives us a pretty solid core to build around.

 

[Semak]

It might come down to keeping Poni or Zubs. I don't think both stay.

 

[kiwidevil]

What forwards do we have knocking on the door? Matteau is already here. Haven't Lou and Pete talked about having more players like Zubrus around in reference to Matteau? Why would he let the real thing go, to let a lesser of him take his place?

XXXX - Zajac - Kovy
Elias - Henrique - Clarkson
Poni - Zubrus - Matteau
Carter - Gionta - Bernier

Get a 20 goal scorer for the first line and that is ****ing solid.

 

[Bleedred]

It might come down to keeping Poni or Zubs. I don't think both stay.

This has crossed my mind. Personally though I think we can keep both, but maybe not on multi years. Regardless I really believe Matteau will spend some time in the AHL next year. I don't believe he's in the NHL for good yet.

Elias will prob get the same cap hit he has now. It's hard to justify giving a player a raise at age 36, even if it's Elias.

I think he'll take a slight pay cut. $5 million a year maybe $5.2 kinda like Marty took a slight one. I want nothing to do with Zubrus at over $3 million. I think $2.5 would be fair.

 

[LeedsMonster]

What forwards do we have knocking on the door? Matteau is already here. Haven't Lou and Pete talked about having more players like Zubrus around in reference to Matteau? Why would he let the real thing go, to let a lesser of him take his place?

XXXX - Zajac - Kovy
Elias - Henrique - Clarkson
Poni - Zubrus - Matteau
Carter - Gionta - Bernier

Get a 20 goal scorer for the first line and that is ****ing solid.

Jeff Carter from LA?

 

[LeedsMonster]

I also personally wouldnt think Lou would keep Poni over Zubrus if it came down to that.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Jeff Carter from LA?

I doubt LA would move him. And I'm not sure I would want a guy with such poor character on this team. If he's not content with his situation, he'll passive-aggressively let you know about it.

Plus, I still hate his guts from his Flyers days.

 

[Classic Devil]

I could see us letting Zubrus walk depending on how some of the kids pan out and if we accquire anyone else.

Mentorship roles and resigning is overrated. Look at Tallinder

Look at Myers.

 

[CerebralGenesis]

Look at Myers.

Look at Buffalo and Ruff and Regier.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Look at Buffalo and Ruff and Regier.

part of the reason Buffalo sucks is because Myers sucks now

 

[CerebralGenesis]

crap you're right, I forgot how much the rest of them are world beaters. crud

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

crap you're right, I forgot how much the rest of them are world beaters. crud

I mean, they aren't THAT bad. they have the league leading scorer and a very good goalie. they shouldn't be that bad.

 

[CerebralGenesis]

Right and all the panic from the buffalo fans is a bit silly considering they are 4 points out of 8th as well

Also funny that they expect to be awesome now and win tonight 6-1.

 

[apice3*]

Right and all the panic from the buffalo fans is a bit silly considering they are 4 points out of 8th as well

We panic and we're in 2nd place.

 

[apice3*]

Jeff Carter from LA?

Not with that contract.

 

[Xv Devil vX]

Tallinder and Tedenby for Stafford and a 5th? Just Stafford?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Tallinder and Tedenby for Stafford and a 5th? Just Stafford?

in my dreams.

 

[apice3*]

Stafford is the single most inconsistent forward in the NHL.

He has 1 goal this year, would go 10+ games without a goal last year, and scored nearly half of his 31 goals in 2010-11 on hat tricks. When he's on, he's very good. He's off more often.

 

[aboriginal]

teddys not doing anything for a while with his injury. as if his value couldntve gotten worse. poor little scamp.

 

[Brooklyndevil]

Stafford is the single most inconsistent forward in the NHL.

He has 1 goal this year, would go 10+ games without a goal last year, and scored nearly half of his 31 goals in 2010-11 on hat tricks. When he's on, he's very good. He's off more often.

Buy low and hope for the best. Maybe Zajac can get him going and he can get Zajac going. Plus, the Devils don't have much in the way of trade assets. I would pull the trigger on Stafford and take my chances.

 

[billingtons ghost]

If ya got the tools, why not use them?

I don't see why Poni/Zubs can't be here. I've signed Henrique @2m Elias @6m, Clarkson @5m. Used 1.5m for JJ and lokti.


CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m) / Travis Zajac ($5.750m) / Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.667m)
Patrik Elias ($6.000m) / Adam Henrique ($2.000m) / David Clarkson ($5.000m)
Stefan Matteau ($0.925m) / Stephen Gionta ($0.563m) / Alexei Ponikarovsky ($1.800m)
Ryan Carter ($0.775m) / Jacob Josefson ($0.851m) / Steve Bernier ($0.775m)
Krystofer Barch ($0.750m) / Andrei Loktionov ($0.633m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Anton Volchenkov ($4.250m) / Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m)
Bryce Salvador ($3.167m) / Andy Greene ($3.000m)
Mark Fayne ($1.300m) / Adam Larsson ($0.925m)
Peter Harrold ($0.525m) /
GOALTENDERS
Martin Brodeur ($4.500m)
Johan Hedberg ($1.400m)
OTHER
Buyout: Trent Hunter ($0.667m)
Buyout: Eric Boulton ($0.250m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,163,000; BONUSES: $82,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $5,219,500
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CALCULATOR LOG
* Patrik Elias signed as free agent for $6,000,000.
* Dainius Zubrus signed as free agent for $3,400,000.
* Adam Henrique signed as free agent for $2,000,000.
* David Clarkson signed as free agent for $5,000,000.
* Alexei Ponikarovsky signed as free agent for $1,800,000.
* Jacob Josefson signed as free agent for $850,500.
* Andrei Loktionov signed as free agent for $632,500.
* Peter Harrold signed as free agent for $525,000.

 

[billingtons ghost]

If ya got the tools, why not use them?

I don't see why Poni/Zubs can't be here. I've signed Henrique @2m Elias @6m, Clarkson @5m. Used 1.5m for JJ and lokti.


CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m) / Travis Zajac ($5.750m) / Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.667m)
Patrik Elias ($6.000m) / Adam Henrique ($2.000m) / David Clarkson ($5.000m)
Stefan Matteau ($0.925m) / Stephen Gionta ($0.563m) / Alexei Ponikarovsky ($1.800m)
Ryan Carter ($0.775m) / Jacob Josefson ($0.851m) / Steve Bernier ($0.775m)
Krystofer Barch ($0.750m) / Andrei Loktionov ($0.633m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Anton Volchenkov ($4.250m) / Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m)
Bryce Salvador ($3.167m) / Andy Greene ($3.000m)
Mark Fayne ($1.300m) / Adam Larsson ($0.925m)
Peter Harrold ($0.525m) /
GOALTENDERS
Martin Brodeur ($4.500m)
Johan Hedberg ($1.400m)
OTHER
Buyout: Trent Hunter ($0.667m)
Buyout: Eric Boulton ($0.250m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,163,000; BONUSES: $82,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $5,219,500
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CALCULATOR LOG
* Patrik Elias signed as free agent for $6,000,000.
* Dainius Zubrus signed as free agent for $3,400,000.
* Adam Henrique signed as free agent for $2,000,000.
* David Clarkson signed as free agent for $5,000,000.
* Alexei Ponikarovsky signed as free agent for $1,800,000.
* Jacob Josefson signed as free agent for $850,500.
* Andrei Loktionov signed as free agent for $632,500.
* Peter Harrold signed as free agent for $525,000.

Actually I screwed up the Lokti/JJ ones, but add another 2m and we are still 3m under the cap.