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I never thought I would say this, but if we're going to keep Gaborik past the deadline and insist on the Richards - Nash pairing and Hagelin - Stepan - Callahan, maybe it's worth looking into bringing Erik Christensen back (:shudder).

Kreider - Richards - Nash
Hagelin - Stepan - Callahan
Miller - Christensen - Gaborik
Powe - Boyle - Asham/Pyatt

Christensen shouldn't cost much, and he'd make a much better center for Gaborik than Brian-freaking-Boyle.
 
I never thought I would say this, but if we're going to keep Gaborik past the deadline and insist on the Richards - Nash pairing and Hagelin - Stepan - Callahan, maybe it's worth looking into bringing Erik Christensen back (:shudder).

Kreider - Richards - Nash
Hagelin - Stepan - Callahan
Miller - Christensen - Gaborik
Powe - Boyle - Asham/Pyatt

Christensen shouldn't cost much, and he'd make a much better center for Gaborik than Brian-freaking-Boyle.

He's not even playing in the NHL.
 
He's not even playing in the NHL.

Didn't he sign with Minnesota? Where'd he go?

EDIT: Guess I was confusing last summer with two summers ago, and he left for the KHL after his stint with Minnesota. Regardless, if Gaborik stays and those combos remain, get him a freaking center without unadulterated offensive ineptitude.
 
We might have a ton of cap space after next year. I wouldn't be shocked if Hank decides to leave. Every interview he's pretty fed up
 
This is a joke. Ryan Callahan is a 2nd line player at best. Loui Eriksson is a 1st line talent who is better defensively and miles ahead offensively.

I love Loui Eriksson, he's one of my favorite players in the league. I know exactly what he is.

Regardless, you don't trade players who are phenomenal players away from the puck and no slouch away from the puck. You don't trade the homegrown, drafted and developed heart of your franchise, a player who happens to be an elite defensive player, one of the hardest working players in the league, and a guy who plays like winning is one of the most important things in the world to him.

The word intangibles is tossed around a lot, and usually without merit. In this case, it actually applies. That's despite the fact that his best attributes ARE tangible.

And to answer your question, I raise you one Mike Fisher in 2011 just off the top of my head.

Fisher was a free agent-to-be who was not a sure bet to stay, Ottawa was spiraling miserably toward the bottom of the standings, and Nashville was interested, which was a perfect situation for him personally.

Nothing like that is happening with the this team. The Rangers are settling into the familiar territory of mediocrity as a result of under performing star players eating away at their salary cap, not rock bottoming in the lottery.

I can safely conclude that Ryan Callahan is one of the most overrated players in Rangers history with comments like these.

I can safely conclude that Ryan Callahan will go down as one of the best players, not to mention captains, in Rangers history. He'll spend the majority of his healthy career as one of the top 10 two-way forwards in the NHL.

I've seen this mentioned a couple of times and it was taken way out of context. I said Callahan has the skillset of a 3rd line grinder. Not that he is a 3rd line grinder. Brendan Morrow, Jarret Stoll, Ryan Smyth and Shawn Horcoff all have the skillset of 3rd line grinders and they've put up around 70 pts in their peak years.

You're comparing Morrow, Smyth, and Callahan to Stoll and Horcoff?. Try Bergeron, Kesler, Jordan Staal, Mike Richards, Fisher, Sharp, and even Eriksson etc.

Callahan belongs in that group, even if he is one of the least skilled offensive players among them. He's that good away from the puck. Besides, the Rangers have never been a very good offensive team. If the team played up to the potential of their big names, #24 would be a 60-65 point player. He would be doing what Drury did in Buffalo: racking up points on the Power Play because he's smart enough and has enough drive to take advantage of playing with great offensive players.
 
Lol hes not going to leave BUT if he did, we all might as well find a new team to root for cause the Rangers would be a 15-16th place team for the next 5 years.
 
Just an observation, its a bit of a stretch. But maybe the times we have been scouting SJ, the Rangers have been looking at Joe Thorton. I know he has a no-movement clause.

But Joe only has two years left on his contract, and he has been known to have played very well with Nash.

Plus, he is a big dude who can play in a grinding system.

I don't know how exactly a package would work, however, for him.
 
if hank left we could probably get hasek to sign with us and keep the trend of signing stars well past their prime going
 
Just an observation, its a bit of a stretch. But maybe the times we have been scouting SJ, the Rangers have been looking at Joe Thorton. I know he has a no-movement clause.

But Joe only has two years left on his contract, and he has been known to have played very well with Nash.

Plus, he is a big dude who can play in a grinding system.

I don't know how exactly a package would work, however, for him.

Wasn't he the one who called the Rangers soft last year and caused a wee bit of a media ruckus about it?
 
They still need more truculence in the bottom-6. Not sure who would be available but what about someone like Nystrom from Dallas?

IMO, the Rangers should have the following players on the block:

Pyatt
Boyle
Powe

Time for some upgrades. Add picks/prospects to those players.

Letestu
Chipchura
Clowe - All dependent on price
Hendricks
Jones
 
Ah, I see your full post now...

Not Torts type of player.

Sure, he won't be blocking shots, but to say Jagr can't go into corners and retrieve and get the puck is just wrong.

Dude would be leading the Rangers in goals right now. Adding Zuccs now, and then Jagr could really bump our power play back to "average" too ;)

(I'd rather trade Gabs at the draft, but)

Deal Gaborik for a LW, RHD, and draft pick.

Trade for Jagr.

Again though, only explore Jagr if Gaborik is dealt. Otherwise he doesn't fit into the lineup.
 
@Lundsanity:

Are we really going to take possibly the greatest RW of all time and move him to LW?

Gaborik scored 40+ goals 2 of the last 3 seasons, one of the best RW's in the entire NHL and we moved him to LW.

Would you have believed that when i told you it last season?

Torts doesn't give a ****.
 
I see absolutely no reason to trade Gaborik. If anyone should be moved its gotta be Richards and/or Torts. Gaborik has looked much better in the last 5 games, hes putting effort in but is being squandered by Torts' horrible coaching.
 
That's a move for the sake of making a move. Another RW who plays his off-wing and is not capable of switching sides.

That's why I changed my process to only if Gabs is dealt. If Jagr is brought in, you MAKE it so he's on the RW.

Well, had we been the team trading for Gaborik this season, I'd have said the same thing :laugh:

Let's say, perfect world, Gaborik is traded for an RHD, a LW Prospect, and a draft pick.

Then, to Dallas goes Pyatt, a prospect like CT, MSC, McColgan, Bourque, Hrivik (you know, a mid-tier guy) and a third rounder for Jagr (at 41 and as a rental, he can't cost more than that, if he does, **** it).

Rangers can roll:

Hagelin - Stepan - Nash
Kreider/Zuccarello - Richards - Jagr/Callahan
Zuccarello/Kreider - Miller - Callahan/Jagr
Asham - Newbury/Boyle - Powe

That's a pretty balanced lineup, IMO. But in reality, that's not a TORTS lineup. Reality has us adding a 2nd/3rd line LW/C with "jam" at the deadline. Especially if Zucc's comes over.
 
Hold on a second....

Did I read that someone suggested bringing back Christensen?

Wow, it's gotten that bad, huh?

I may have to take some time off from the boards after reading this.
 
I see absolutely no reason to trade Gaborik. If anyone should be moved its gotta be Richards and/or Torts. Gaborik has looked much better in the last 5 games, hes putting effort in but is being squandered by Torts' horrible coaching.

Agreed. Gabs has been getting quality chances last few games. Aa long as that continues the goals will come
 
I see absolutely no reason to trade Gaborik. If anyone should be moved its gotta be Richards and/or Torts. Gaborik has looked much better in the last 5 games, hes putting effort in but is being squandered by Torts' horrible coaching.

Richards isn't going anywhere until he's bought out in 2014. He gets traded, and retires, and the Rangers are ****ed. No one is trading for that contract. He's getting bought out, no doubt about it.

Torts isn't going anywhere. It's too late for that at this point. 17 games left, if that was a move that was going to be made to shake the team up for a playoff run, it needed to happen 5+ games ago. If this was a normal 82 game season, and he Rangers were 15-13-3 after 31 games, Torts's ass would be burning. His job was saved this season by the shortened season. I wanted him gone, never wanted him hired, but at least I can open my eyes and see the truth here. If the Rangers make the playoffs, are bounced in the first round, and get off to a shoddy start next season, THEN and ONLY THEN will Torts finally be on the hot seat.

I agree with your analysis of Gaborik, he's been really stepping up his game of late, and he's coming back to "old Gaborik." He needs to be traded though. I'd rather him be dealt at the draft, and allowed to try and make a run with this team. In reality though, he's the Rangers most tradeable asset in the market. This is especially the case due to the Rangers not having a 1st rd pick.
 
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