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[NikC]

if they don't at least make a move for an agitator, a difference maker of sorts, they've resigned themselves to miss the post season, and that's a tragedy imo, with the moves we made. It's a an embarrassment and sends a bad message.

There's a reason why this team didn't come to play this season. If losing a heart and soul player like Prust was the reason, then management once again, made and error in subtraction. We are looking to add the player we let go.... dumb

 

[BBKers]

What is the extension? I would definitely have interest. People act like 30 is old. 3 year extension?

Thirty is the new forty. Richards is the new Drury. Zubrowka is the new water. Na zdrowie!

 

[Trxjw]

What is the extension? I would definitely have interest. People act like 30 is old. 3 year extension?

Age isn't the issue. It's the fact that he's insanely slow and has moved from a rugged force in the offensive zone to a semi-perimeter player who likes to feed passes from the half wall. Sure, he can fight and he'll stand up for teammates, but he's not the player he used to be.

 

[NYR Viper]

Age isn't the issue. It's the fact that he's insanely slow and has moved from a rugged force in the offensive zone to a semi-perimeter player who likes to feed passes from the half wall. Sure, he can fight and he'll stand up for teammates, but he's not the player he used to be.

Clowe has ALWAYS played like that. He goes through stretches like this almost every season. It just so happens that he has been playing injured and in the condensed schedule, it leaves little time to bring your game back around.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Age isn't the issue. It's the fact that he's insanely slow and has moved from a rugged force in the offensive zone to a semi-perimeter player who likes to feed passes from the half wall. Sure, he can fight and he'll stand up for teammates, but he's not the player he used to be.

Bingo.

...but not in the eyes of disgruntled Ranger fans.

Amazing how he cant spark San Jose, but hes just the right tonic for the NYR

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Clowe has ALWAYS played like that. He goes through stretches like this almost every season. It just so happens that he has been playing injured and in the condensed schedule, it leaves little time to bring your game back around.

What a glowing endorsement. Sounds just like the guy who is going to help right this ship

 

[NYR Viper]

Bingo.

...but not in the eyes of disgruntled Ranger fans.

Amazing how he cant spark San Jose, but hes just the right tonic for the NYR

What do you think of Nash?

What a glowing endorsement. Sounds just like the guy who is going to help right this ship

He, like probably 90% of this league, is not consistent. If he was, he would be a perennial all-star. The Rangers wouldn't be looking at him for that. They need depth and physicality.

 

[NikC]

Bingo.

...but not in the eyes of disgruntled Ranger fans.

Amazing how he cant spark San Jose, but hes just the right tonic for the NYR

for a team with no balls, actually he is.

 

[Kershaw]

Would Boston be willing to move Krejci?

They can move Seguin to center the Lucic line and Bergeron to center the 2nd line.

Gaborik for Krejci.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

What do you think of Nash?



He, like probably 90% of this league, is not consistent. If he was, he would be a perennial all-star. The Rangers wouldn't be looking at him for that. They need depth and physicality.

Rick Nash and Ryan Clowe deserve to be put in the same sentence??

Different situations and, much more importantly, different players.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

for a team with no balls, actually he is.

And San Jose has balls? Theyve had balls for the last several years of playoff disappointment? Teams that Ryan Clowe - an actual GOOD Ryan Clowe - had been a fixture?

 

[NYR Viper]

Rick Nash and Ryan Clowe deserve to be put in the same sentence??

Different situations and, much more importantly, different players.

Doesn't that support my argument? You asked why Clowe wasn't able to right the ship in SJ. Nash is obviously the better player and yet the couldn't turn around CLB. You are asking a player who is not as good to have a larger impact than Rick Nash who has been one of, if not THE best player on this team.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Doesn't that support my argument? You asked why Clowe wasn't able to right the ship in SJ. Nash is obviously the better player and yet the couldn't turn around CLB. You are asking a player who is not as good to have a larger impact than Rick Nash who has been one of, if not THE best player on this team.

If thats your argument, its simply a wing and a prayer.

I have a much better argument that the Ryan Clowe you are currently projecting is not the Ryan Clowe of 2013.

Look, if you want to make a move for the sake of making a move, Im all for that. But you absolutely MUST make sure you're not bringing on a declining player and adding to his term.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

You say this like there is only one thing wrong with this team.....

If your house needs new windows AND a new heating system but you can only afford new windows right now, would you do nothing?

Your analogy is not analogous to mine.

If they got Richards and Gaborik going, a lot of the flaws would be covered up.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Your analogy is not analogous to mine.

If they got Richards and Gaborik going, a lot of the flaws would be covered up.

Ryan Clowe is going to get them going.

And it'll only cost assets and about a 3 year extension.

 

[NikC]

A player like Clowe fits this teams identity, and it's largely one of the reasons why we are in crisis. We need players like this with his skill set. I don't want to see the Flyers get Clowe, because he's just the type of player they need.

 

[NYR Viper]

Your analogy is not analogous to mine.

If they got Richards and Gaborik going, a lot of the flaws would be covered up.

And I get that. But IF that happens they still need to add some sort of physical presence in the top-9 and a player who can rush opposing defenses. Clowe + Torres. Why is it that a team like Pittsburgh gets it every year? Glass? Morrow? Murray? Good teams build with players that are hard to play against and who can skate.

The Rangers bottom-6 has neither of those things going for them.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Rangers need toughness (no not John Scott) It's a big issue this year. Entire roster has a soft, loser mentality.

Clowe is too expensive though. No argument here.

 

[Kershaw]

A player like Clowe fits this teams identity, and it's largely one of the reasons why we are in crisis. We need players like this with his skill set. I don't want to see the Flyers get Clowe, because he's just the type of player they need.

He certainly does fit this team's identity:

Slow, washed-up and can't finish.

 

[NikC]

He certainly does fit this team's identity:

Slow, washed-up and can't finish.

This team is not slow and they're not washed up. they can't finish because of pressure and lack of confidence for a variety of factors that have been beaten to death in every thread in his forum.

Spark plug, agitator type players, not necessarily Clowe will go farther in salvaging this season than any potential 'bigger move" involving Gaborik.

I would love a Gaborik for Vanek type move, but dont think it's going to happen. We should at least try to do something to ensure not missing the playoffs. We owe Lundqvist that much.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

And I get that. But IF that happens they still need to add some sort of physical presence in the top-9 and a player who can rush opposing defenses. Clowe + Torres. Why is it that a team like Pittsburgh gets it every year? Glass? Morrow? Murray? Good teams build with players that are hard to play against and who can skate.

The Rangers bottom-6 has neither of those things going for them.

Pittsburgh has a core that's producing and are fortunate to have the two best players in the league. They are upgrading what they have, not trying to fix a team.

Looking at the Pens recent moves, it shows the importance of a productive Gaborik and Richards. While those two are nowhere near the calibre of player of Malkin and Crosby, if Richards and Gaboriki were even producing half as much as last year and Stepan and Nash were doing what they were doing, the Rangers would be looking to fill holes/upgrade positions the way the Pens are.

If Richards and Gaborik were producing, than a Clowe or Torres would enhance this team. But they're not so in some ways you're asking a Clowe or Torres to fix this team.

 

[NYR Viper]

Funny how teams like Pittsburgh has Cooke and Glass and Ottawa has Neil and they are doing well. And yet people here want no part of Torres. Montreal add Prust and Armstrong and they take off doing well. Boston has Lucic and Marchand.

The Rangers are too soft and easy to play against. Sad really that people don't realize that.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Funny how teams like Pittsburgh has Cooke and Glass and Ottawa has Neil and they are doing well. And yet people here want no part of Torres. Montreal add Prust and Armstrong and they take off doing well. Boston has Lucic and Marchand.

The Rangers are too soft and easy to play against. Sad really that people don't realize that.

Is Pittsburgh doing well because they have Glass and Cooke or because Crosby has 56 points in 36 games?

 

[NYR Viper]

Is Pittsburgh doing well because they have Glass and Cooke or because Crosby has 56 points in 36 games?

Both. They have built their team well. Why does that Pittsburgh team win with Letang and Malkin out? Now with Crosby out? They have a set system that allows their players to skate and push the opposing team's defense on every shift. They have players that are a pain in the ass to play against who create turnovers. They have players who don't take **** from anyone. The Rangers do not.

 

[BBKers]

Is Pittsburgh doing well because they have Glass and Cooke or because Crosby has 56 points in 36 games?

It would have to be Cooke... His presence is simply essential... To any Contender