Rumor: Trade Rumours & Proposals | Would NYR Move Kreider? | Reinhart Unclaimed

[Bryanbryoil]

It depends I'm not sure he's thrilled if he's playing bad. He came here to play with McDavid, he might be willing to accept at trade to a team near LA or NYC. Chia should at least ask.

Should Chia ask or should Looch ask him if that's his wish? Looch should just keep working hard and the goals will come. If Maroon walks there's a damn good chance that he winds up on McDavid's wing again.

 

[Canovin]

This whole letting the public know who's on the table is so stupid and unprofessional

 

[nexttothemoon]

I wonder if Dallas would consider dealing the rights of Nichushkin to the Oilers for a pick/prospect?

 

[McFlyingV]

At this point I doubt we get Kreider, but the more I think about it he could actually be McDavid's perfect winger. Kreider could obviously use his size a little better, but he still does use it and his speed+shot would be a godsend on McDavid's line. Thats really the missing piece, a big fast winger to go with McDavid and a cycle guy. I'm still hoping Jesse becomes that, but he's got a lot of work to do on his puck protection and utilizing his size to become that.

If you somehow could get Kreider for Nuge or Nuge+ then I would love the look of our top 6 going into the next couple years.

Kreider-McDavid-Yamamoto/Puljujarvi
Lucic/Maroon-Draisaitl-Yamamoto/Puljujarvi

Just need to find a good shutdown C who can chip in 30P for the 3rd line in that scenario.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Lucic is basically on a 50 pt pace this season... close to his past 4 year average of 52 pts.

Not sure what people are expecting from him offensively. He basically is a 50 point hockey player in an average year and in a good/great year could challenge 60 pts.

This year could certainly take a turn for the better if Lucic and the rest of the team start connecting on more chances (dead last shooting percentage now in the NHL after Montreal potted 8 goals tonight) and he could be on pace for a 55-60 pt season which would be slightly above average for him.

I think honestly people are being somewhat critical when he's actually doing decently for a team that's scoring barely 2 goals per game.

Once the spigot opens offensively for this team... Lucic will rise with that tide as well.

 

[Chef de Cuisine]

Lucic is basically on a 50 pt pace this season... close to his past 4 year average of 52 pts.

Not sure what people are expecting from him offensively. He basically is a 50 point hockey player in an average year and in a good/great year could challenge 60 pts.

This year could certainly take a turn for the better if Lucic and the rest of the team start connecting on more chances (dead last shooting percentage now in the NHL after Montreal potted 8 goals tonight) and he could be on pace for a 55-60 pt season which would be slightly above average for him.

I think honestly people are being somewhat critical when he's actually doing decently for a team that's scoring barely 2 goals per game.

Once the spigot opens offensively for this team... Lucic will rise with that tide as well.

I think part of it is that the 55-60 pt paces weren't with time playing with a C of McDavid's calibre, I'm sure most people were expecting an average increase of 10-15 pts because we knew he would see time with 97.

 

[nexttothemoon]

At this point I doubt we get Kreider, but the more I think about it he could actually be McDavid's perfect winger. Kreider could obviously use his size a little better, but he still does use it and his speed+shot would be a godsend on McDavid's line. Thats really the missing piece, a big fast winger to go with McDavid and a cycle guy. I'm still hoping Jesse becomes that, but he's got a lot of work to do on his puck protection and utilizing his size to become that.

If you somehow could get Kreider for Nuge or Nuge+ then I would love the look of our top 6 going into the next couple years.

Kreider-McDavid-Yamamoto/Puljujarvi
Lucic/Maroon-Draisaitl-Yamamoto/Puljujarvi

Just need to find a good shutdown C who can chip in 30P for the 3rd line in that scenario.

I completely agree.

Kreider is underrated... total package that makes him one of the very best all-around wingers in the game. I'd have a hard time coming up with 10 wingers across the entire NHL that I'd rather have on the Oilers than Kreider.

Similarly I've always though Couturier would be a godsend on this team. Ultra elite defensively and untapped potential offensively... and now finally this season people are seeing Couturier break out and become that dominating full package player. It's why I liked Couturier over RNH in that draft... higher upside due to his size and defensive abilities... offense was good as well but untapped at the NHL level.

Oilers don't have enough of those total package players (although they are obviously very rare as well so very hard to obtain).

Oshie is another elite level all around player. Scheifele, Pavelski, Wheeler, Marchand... some other prime examples.

Obviously most of those are untouchable or nearly so.. but those are the type of players that play hard in both ends and do a hell of a lot more than just have decent boxscores.

If Kreider is indeed available (unlikely)... they should push HARD for him.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Couturier is getting a push by playing with Giroux and Voracek. I'm sure that Nuge would do alright on a line with McDavid and Draisaitl.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Couturier is getting a push by playing with Giroux and Voracek. I'm sure that Nuge would do alright on a line with McDavid and Draisaitl.

No doubt that helps... but Couturier is rock solid defensively... look at his +10 rating on a team where the next closest forward is +4.

Couturier is the defensive conscience that lets Giroux and Voracek excel as well. I could see that line putting up excellent stats all season long if they stick together... and it will be in large part to Couturier anchoring that line defensively.

I would LOVE to see a line of Draisaitl-Couturier-McDavid... f***ing unstoppable. They all shoot left... but oh well... no weaknesses on that line offensively or defensively.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

No doubt that he is a rock defensively, just saying that his breakout comes with the best 2 offensive players on his team.

 

[nexttothemoon]

The best NHL line I could put together would be:

Scheifele-Couturier-Oshie

That line would shit over any other line when it comes to the best mix of offense/defense and simply having what it takes to win when it's all on the line.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Oshie?

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I see your Scheifele-Couturier-Oshie line and raise you Ovechkin-McDavid-Stamkos

 

[Alowlyoilersfan]

it is not the first time we have had this type of speculation. I don't see any deals happening soon because we aren't going to win any trade involving the players mentioned

 

[nexttothemoon]

I see your Scheifele-Couturier-Oshie line and raise you Ovechkin-McDavid-Stamkos

It's easy to just throw superstars together and see if that sticks... often it doesn't.

I'm fairly certain my line up above would be a killer offensive/defensive combo vs any other 5 on 5 line in the NHL and would be one of those "more than the sum of its parts" type of line.

Hockey is a two way street which is often overlooked and which results in teams being unbalanced and underperforming.

Now I will give you that your line would be one hell of a PP combo that would likely be the cure for the current Oilers PP woes... now if only the cap would rise another $20 million or so to accommodate them.

My "ultimate" line is $16 million... yours is almost double that.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

So, guess this adds up to Strome, Jokinen and Slep available per info media has been able to extract. And org unhappiness made known about Strome and JJ.

Jokinen being moved so quickly seems surprising to me, unless McLellan doesn't even want him on the team and they are considering waiving him doesn't make much sense to dangle him. There wasn't exactly a lot of suitors for Jokinen, the return would be next to non-existent, your proverbial bag of pucks.

I never got the sense that Slepy had a huge amount of leash so moving him isn't outlandish and he might carry a small amount of value, I'm guessing that we want to add a PKer in the bottom 6 and Slepy could probably get that kind of return.

When we got Strome all indications were that we knew he was a bit of a project from the outset based on McLellan's comments, turning our back on him 10 games in is kind of shocking stuff, I wouldn't mind personally, but it should raise some questions about the Oilers brain trust and if they actually know what they are doing.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

Do something Bobby Nicks!

Burger is a rip off. Not worth the $20+ if I remember correctly

 

[nexttothemoon]

Scheifele-Couturier-Oshie
Pavelski-Huberdeau-Palmieri
Marchand-Stepan-Wheeler
Kreider-Thornton-Kucherov


If money were no object that's my dream team of forwards that would be invincible. Solid 2-way players all the way throughout the lineup.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

It depends I'm not sure he's thrilled if he's playing bad. He came here to play with McDavid, he might be willing to accept at trade to a team near LA or NYC. Chia should at least ask.

IMO you don't ask unless you already got something concrete on the table, he's probably not the easiest player to move in season with his contract it could be an unnecessary distraction. I do get the impression that Lucic has a very high opinion of Chia and I don't think Chia would have a very hard time convincing him to waive his NMC if he was told it wasn't working here and it was for the betterment of the team, though ofcourse it would have to be to a place that Lucic and his family find agreeable, probably 4-6 spots that are ok with him.

 

[NeverForget06]

Burger is a rip off. Not worth the $20+ if I remember correctly

Do you know any burger that is really worth 20+$??? That patty better be kobe beef

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

Do you know any burger that is really worth 20+$??? That patty better be kobe beef

Lol not really, what they think justifies the price are the home made potato chips that comes with it.

Worth a try, would never get again lol.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Scheifele-Couturier-Oshie
Pavelski-Huberdeau-Palmieri
Marchand-Stepan-Wheeler
Kreider-Thornton-Kucherov


If money were no object that's my dream team that would be invincible. Solid 2-way players all the way throughout the lineup.

Ovechkin-McDavid-Stamkos
Tarasenko-Crosby-Laine
Malkin-Matthews-Eichel
Benn-Bergeron-Seguin

 

[nexttothemoon]

Sadly Tkachuk is developing into exactly one of those players who fits squarely into that group of mine up above... a two way beast that excels at both ends of the ice. Sad to say that about a Calgary asset.

Bennett is junk so that makes it a little better.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Ovechkin-McDavid-Stamkos
Tarasenko-Crosby-Laine
Malkin-Matthews-Eichel
Benn-Bergeron-Seguin

I'm being honest in saying I truly believe my lineup would beat your lineup in a 7 game series.

Mine is pretty much a perfect lineup of 2 way responsible forwards who are the ultimate mix of talents for playing in any situation.

They'd obviously have to stay out of the penalty box because your squad has some severely potent weapons... but as I said.. in a seven game series my group beats anything in the NHL imo.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Sadly Tkachuk is developing into exactly one of those players who fits squarely into that group of mine up above... a two way beast that excels at both ends of the ice. Sad to say that about a Calgary asset.

Bennett is junk so that makes it a little better.

Tkachuk would be perfect on McDavid's left wing.