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[CycloneSweep]

Something every NHLer strives for. Being in Soundwave's good books. And its a real page turner mind you. Never mind the sticky problem of guaranteed contracts or anything. If you are producing today he's ready to sign you up for $5 million. If not? On to the next page.

Somehow you don't seem to realize that what you are saying is exactly what causes the Oilers to have the sort of players you call 'over priced, no heart trash' the minute they stop living up to their deals.
Oh look, he's producing. He seems 'hungry'. Let's hand him a lot of money. Oh wait. He seems to be resting on his laurels and floating around. Where can we unload him for pennies on the dollar?

I submit that at the end of the day the career stats mean everything to an NHL player. And Jordan Eberle will go down as the better player than Patrick Maroon in every NHL book ever written.
But you can go with your version I guess.

History has a record of repeating itself. It's why signing a player after one good year is a huge risk and teams often look at a few year sample size and lots of young players take bridge deals.

 

[McShogun99]

If it's Maroon gone, say hello to

Caggiula McDavid as your top line LW-C combo next year. There's no one great on the UFA market that's going to sign for less than what Maroon would have.

If Maroon is gone then they will once again force Lucic into that top line role with Mcdavid. The best thing would be to find someone to take Lucic off our hands while he still has value and sign Maroon to a 3-4 year extension. Lucic is still a valuable player but his contract is going to hurt us in the long run.

 

[McFlyingV]

If Maroon is gone then they will once again force Lucic into that top line role with Mcdavid. The best thing would be to find someone to take Lucic off our hands while he still has value and sign Maroon to a 3-4 year extension. Lucic is still a valuable player but his contract is going to hurt us in the long run.

And how on earth do you move Lucic? He has a full NMC until the last 2 years of his deal. I have a hard time 1) seeing him willing to move after he's settled his family in back in Western Canada, and 2) seeing Chia ever asking him to waive.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

And how on earth do you move Lucic? He has a full NMC until the last 2 years of his deal. I have a hard time 1) seeing him willing to move after he's settled his family in back in Western Canada, and 2) seeing Chia ever asking him to waive.

Yeah Looch ain't going anywhere. This fantasy needs to stop.

Besides, we have bigger fish to fry- starting with the lack of depth at RW and RD.

 

[Soundwave]

Something every NHLer strives for. Being in Soundwave's good books. And its a real page turner mind you. Never mind the sticky problem of guaranteed contracts or anything. If you are producing today he's ready to sign you up for $5 million. If not? On to the next page.

Somehow you don't seem to realize that what you are saying is exactly what causes the Oilers to have the sort of players you call 'over priced, no heart trash' the minute they stop living up to their deals.
Oh look, he's producing. He seems 'hungry'. Let's hand him a lot of money. Oh wait. He seems to be resting on his laurels and floating around. Where can we unload him for pennies on the dollar?

I submit that at the end of the day the career stats mean everything to an NHL player. And Jordan Eberle will go down as the better player than Patrick Maroon in every NHL book ever written.
But you can go with your version I guess.

That's nice and all but you know what? Do you think the Pittsburgh Penguins coming in here on Wednesday give any shit about what Milan Lucic did 4 years ago?

They don't care. You either bring your 100% effort that night or they will gladly take 2 points from you.

You earn your keep in this league, every night by performing up to your highest standards.

Nobody gives two farts in this league about what you did three years ago, every team coming in here will embarass you if you give them an inch, they will beat you if you do not play up to your ability. That's why I don't care about any of that either.

If Lucic/Eberle/RNH are such great players with great production in the past and are waaaay better than Maroon. Great. So why don't they play like it? What's stopping them?

*crickets*.

 

[oobga]

So, guess this adds up to Strome, Jokinen and Slep available per info media has been able to extract. And org unhappiness made known about Strome and JJ.

 

[CycloneSweep]

So, guess this adds up to Strome, Jokinen and Slep available per info media has been able to extract. And org unhappiness made known about Strome and JJ.

Strome, Jokinen and Slepyshev could probably combine to get us a 2nd if we take back a bad contract

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

LOL, wow, Chia really pulling out all the stops. Who could have known a 30-point forward with no discernible specialty, a 34-year-old 3rd/4th liner, and a vanilla prospect would fail to be the answer for our scoring problems before the season started?

Bruins fans accused Chiarelli of falling into the trap of just re-adjusting deck chairs on the sinking ship that was the SS Boston when it became clear his team had larger, deeper issues. I expected we'd see that sort of thing three years from now, but 10 games into the third year? What a ****ing dipstick.

 

[oobga]

Do something Bobby Nicks!

 

[rickysusedsht]

The team seems to be in some sort of disarray. I dont know if chia is really trying to trade all these guys or is he raising **** to send a massage to the room

 

[McShogun99]

And how on earth do you move Lucic? He has a full NMC until the last 2 years of his deal. I have a hard time 1) seeing him willing to move after he's settled his family in back in Western Canada, and 2) seeing Chia ever asking him to waive.

We don't unless Lucic wants to on his own. I'm just hoping that the next CBA includes a no penalty clause for buyouts. It works in favor of the players and teams with deep pockets. Just throw money at your mistakes.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Do something Bobby Nicks!

That's fitting, because the 2017-18 Oilers are like the sports team version of the Bobby Nicks Burger: flat, over-priced, overrated and leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

 

[McFlyingV]

We don't unless Lucic wants to on his own. I'm just hoping that the next CBA includes a no penalty clause for buyouts. It works in favor of the players and teams with deep pockets. Just throw money at your mistakes.

Yeah thats honestly our best hope. Lucic is still valuable when he's on his game and come playoff time. We'll just have to live with the frustrating moments.

 

[McShogun99]

Yeah Looch ain't going anywhere. This fantasy needs to stop.

Besides, we have bigger fish to fry- starting with the lack of depth at RW and RD.

Our RW depth isn't so bad with JP and Yamamoto as prospects. It's just so bad right now because we are forcing centers to play RW since we have no one else capable of playing in the top 6.

 

[McDNicks17]

So, guess this adds up to Strome, Jokinen and Slep available per info media has been able to extract. And org unhappiness made known about Strome and JJ.

Bob McKenzie said the Strome stuff is false.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Our RW depth isn't so bad with JP and Yamamoto as prospects. It's just so bad right now because we are forcing centers to play RW since we have no one else capable of playing in the top 6.

Maybe Chiarelli shouldn't have relied on two ****ing teenagers to solve that particular problem.

Chia's plan to miraculously find a RW for McDavid in a pile of cast-offs, late draft picks and over-the-hill UFAs makes me think he ****s himself off every night to that one scene from Moneyball where Brad Pitt turns Chris Pratt into an all-star- only, instead of Pratt, we have a team full of Anna Farises.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

If Chia does decide to do something trade wise this early, expect to be pissed off for the return. I have zero confidence in him. Bob Nicholson should look over every deal before it gets made from this point forward.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

If Chia does decide to do something trade wise this early, expect to be pissed off for the return. I have zero confidence in him. Bob Nicholson should look over every deal before it gets made from this point forward.

Peter Chiarelli is so bad at trades that if his house was on fire, he'd trade a bucket of water for a can of gasoline.

 

[Soundwave]

Chia gets some good done but at too high a cost and is poor negotiator salary wise. He's a nice enough guy so it's nothing personal but I don't think he shouldn't been hired. He's just not the right fit here, the sooner he's out the sooner someone else can get in here and do a better job.

He would work better in the old NHL where physicality was at a higher premium over skill.

 

[Soundwave]

Yeah thats honestly our best hope. Lucic is still valuable when he's on his game and come playoff time. We'll just have to live with the frustrating moments.

If by "frustrating moments" you mean we have to live with him being invisible for huge chunks of the season, sure. Has he been a big impact forward this year in even one of our games yet?

 

[McFlyingV]

If by "frustrating moments" you mean we have to live with him being invisible for huge chunks of the season, sure. Has he been a big impact forward this year in even one of our games yet?

Nope he has not, but he was on multiple occasions last year. We're stuck with him though so no use pouting over it.

 

[Soundwave]

Nope he has not, but he was on multiple occasions last year. We're stuck with him though so no use pouting over it.

I'd say he was good for about 25-30 games, invisible in 25-30 more, non/minor factor in whatever is left over and mediocre in the playoffs.

 

[McFlyingV]

I'd say he was good for about 25-30 games, invisible in 25-30 more, non/minor factor in whatever is left over and mediocre in the playoffs.

Probably not wrong in that assessment, but he definitely took over and changed the tide in some games that we would not have won otherwise. Wasn't his best playoff performance, but he is capable of making an impact in the playoffs. Like I said you just have to accept the good and the bad with Lucic and his inconsistency and hope he goes beast mode in playoffs. He's not going anywhere with his NMC.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Well it was only a matter of time before heads would start to roll with the ineptitude of our bottom 6.

 

[Soundwave]

Probably not wrong in that assessment, but he definitely took over and changed the tide in some games that we would not have won otherwise. Wasn't his best playoff performance, but he is capable of making an impact in the playoffs. Like I said you just have to accept the good and the bad with Lucic and his inconsistency and hope he goes beast mode in playoffs. He's not going anywhere with his NMC.

It depends I'm not sure he's thrilled if he's playing bad. He came here to play with McDavid, he might be willing to accept at trade to a team near LA or NYC. Chia should at least ask.