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joestevens29

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Galchenyuk is better than Eberle of the last three years.

He would have gone no.1 overall in his draft year had he not been injured for 85% of it. He was always way better than Yakupov.
There's setting the bar high. As of right now none of those top 4 look like they should've ever been considered for #1 overall
 

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McDavid was a rookie in one of those season and they had a massive rash of injuries, the next season they jumped way ahead of schedule so expectations got out of control. Management isn't as fickle as the fans, they aren't going to rebuild again after one down season. There will be disappointment and retooling will be in order but they aren't going to turf the GM who engineered the biggest turnaround in hockey one season prior.
Chia has his faults but that would be a big mistake and show me that these guys have learned nothing about constant change being a bad thing for young players.

This franchise accepts mediocrity way too often, keeping Chia if they miss the playoffs this year is insane. You're going to rely on this loser to fix the problem with zero cap space? Get outta here Chia.

Honestly should not have hired this guy in the first place. Ray Shero should have been the pick.
 

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Galchenyuk is better than Eberle of the last three years.

He would have gone no.1 overall in his draft year had he not been injured for 85% of it. He was always way better than Yakupov.
Save me the draft pedigrees. Neither would be drafted top 10 if redone.

Ebs had his flaws but is still better than Galchenyuk. Some of you guys need to watch him play. Guy is Ebs but more inconsistent
 

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I love how we couldn't get anything of value for eberle but people here are willing to give up JP for the same player, with less history just 1m cheaper.
JP isnt worth much with whats he's shown. He actually looks to be getting worse which isn't a good thing.
 

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So Lucic is off limit but Pulju is not?

Lucic's contract is almost impossible to move and I don't think Chia is even remotely thinking about trading him because of 9 poor games, 9 poor games in which he hasn't even been that bad. Even if Chia wanted to move him, it'll be tough to find any takers.
So many overreactions going on, it's making my head spin. I know fans are called fanatics for a reason but this thread (and others) are taking fanatic to another level.

FTR, that doesn't mean that there aren't concerns to be had just to set the record straight that some criticism and need for change is warranted.
 

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Stauffer is hitting on the same note as Friedman in that we need more speed in the line-up, I'm guessing if we make any changes it will be specifically to address that issue.
 

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So Lucic is off limit but Pulju is not?
I'd say is Pulju is more likely than Lucic. Lucic was brought in to be a piece of the puzzle to fix this club.

Pulju was a draft pick that feel to us. Of course you hope he can help you win, but at the same time you really don't know if the developed Pulju is a fit on your team or not.
 

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Save me the draft pedigrees. Neither would be drafted top 10 if redone.

Ebs had his flaws but is still better than Galchenyuk. Some of you guys need to watch him play. Guy is Ebs but more inconsistent

Galchenyuk was on pace for 60 points last year and hit 30 goals the year before.

He's not 5'10 who actually plays like he's 5'7 as Eberle is either.

It's certainly not impossible Jesse never turns out to be a 30 goal or 60 point guy. I think he might be, but it's very hard to say right now.
 

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Just saying they were looking at the possibility. Did not say it was going to happen. Specifically said Galchenyuk plus a dman for Pooly plus (maybe a strome?).
This really isn't a rumor is it? Now a d-man is involved? MTL literally has no d-men to give up. The ones they do have that would be better than what we have are Weber, Alzer and Petry. Somehow I doubt any of them are moved.
 

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Galchenyuk was on pace for 60 points last year and hit 30 goals the year before.

He's not 5'10 who actually plays like he's 5'7 as Eberle is either.
I'm not against trading for Galchenyuk but it shouldn't cost us Pulju
 

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Just saying they were looking at the possibility. Did not say it was going to happen. Specifically said Galchenyuk plus a dman for Pooly plus (maybe a strome?).

That dman better be Shea ****ing Weber retained 50% and Galchenyuk for Puljujarvi+. That's just plain awful....
 

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Trade him back to LA and retain some salary.
If given the choice, I'd rather have Maroon over Looch.
 

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I don't think either will be fired either but there's no reason to miss the playoffs this year unless the team is decimated by injury (which right now it's not). This is the year to go for the Stanley Cup and right now not only do the Oilers not look like a Cup contender they don't even look like a playoff team. At this juncture that's simply unacceptable, especially when worse teams are doing better than us and even those with injury problems are still surviving.

I have seen almost no posts on the fact that it takes time for a team to adjust to being a favorite. You dont just switch gears from being a team with no expectations to win to a team expected to contend for the cup without some transitional bumps in the road.
This is a necessary step...the team has to learn how to play with sky high expectations.
If anything the success last season may have come a bit too early. They went from having no expectations to being expected to contend for a cup in 1 season. 1 fricken season.

When you couple that with how many things went so very right for this team last season little wonder the team seems a bit lost. This is going to be an up and down season IMO. To expect linear improvement from last season (with a core this young) is very unrealistic.
People really need to pump the brakes on expectations and take a breath.
 

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Crickets.

The 2nd line in general needs to be rebuilt entirely, Lucic is part of the problem. That line never supports McDavid when he needs it. Never.

As such we may as well get out of the cap situation if we can. I would sit down with him as a GM and say "look, we know this is not working out how either of us envisioned, would you be OK with perhaps waiving for certain teams if I can find a deal?".

At the very least the GM should be having that meeting.
 

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I have seen almost no posts on the fact that it takes time for a team to adjust to being a favorite. You dont just switch gears from being a team with no expectations to win to a team expected to contend for the cup without some transitional bumps in the road.
This is a necessary step...the team has to learn how to play with sky high expectations.
If anything the success last season may have come a bit too early. They went from having no expectations to being expected to contend for a cup in 1 season. 1 fricken season.

When you couple that with how many things went so very right for this team last season little wonder the team seems a bit lost. This is going to be an up and down season IMO. To expect linear improvement from last season is very unrealistic.
People really need to pump the brakes on expectations and take a breath.

The Penguins made the playoffs with Crosby in his second year. The next year they also had a poor start. Guess what? The coach was fired 5 games in. They were in the Finals the next June.

Accountability needs to exist within an organization.

Being gift wrapped Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl and still missing the playoffs 66% of the time would be a disgrace.
 
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I have seen almost no posts on the fact that it takes time for a team to adjust to being a favorite. You dont just switch gears from being a team with no expectations to win to a team expected to contend for the cup without some transitional bumps in the road.
This is a necessary step...the team has to learn how to play with sky high expectations.
If anything the success last season may have come a bit too early. They went from having no expectations to being expected to contend for a cup in 1 season. 1 fricken season.

When you couple that with how many things went so very right for this team last season little wonder the team seems a bit lost. This is going to be an up and down season IMO. To expect linear improvement from last season is very unrealistic.
People really need to pump the brakes on expectations and take a breath.
I'm not saying the Oilers should be blowing every team away, absolutely not. But 3-6-1? They're not even .500 and in more than half of those games they looked like the same lost bottom feeder we're so used to seeing. 29th place with a hopeless offense and suspect defense... Given that both of those were questions unanswered in the offseason, I believe that someone should definitely answer the simple question, "Why was nothing done in the off-season to plug the team's holes?"

If the Oilers don't go above .500 by the end of November you might as well start talking about next season.
 

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I'd say is Pulju is more likely than Lucic. Lucic was brought in to be a piece of the puzzle to fix this club.

Pulju was a draft pick that feel to us. Of course you hope he can help you win, but at the same time you really don't know if the developed Pulju is a fit on your team or not.
Pulju should also be close to untouchable unless the trade address our defense. He's the same caliber prospect as Drai. You don't move those type because Lucic cannot be moved.

The more I watch Lucic the more I'm concerned if he's a fit on this team.
 

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The team looks like it did 3 years ago with everyone hurt
 

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Pulju should also be close to untouchable unless the trade address our defense. He's the same caliber prospect as Drai. You don't move those type because Lucic cannot be moved.

The more I watch Lucic the more I'm concerned if he's a fit on this team.

He's totally not a fit on this team. It was evident last year. Maroon is way better than him with the team we have. If we lose Maroon and are stuck with Lucic that is a massive downgrade next year.
 
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That dman better be Shea ****ing Weber retained 50% and Galchenyuk for Puljujarvi+. That's just plain awful....

I bet it's a depth Dman or someone in the minors that Chia likes. Maybe a prospect d man. who knows. It's what the guy said. Specifically Oilers looking at Galchenyuk.
 

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He's totally not a fit on this team. It was evident last year. Maroon is way better than him with the team we have. If we lose Maroon and are stuck with Lucic that is a massive downgrade next year.
My thoughts exactly
 
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