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Vegas could. He's not a useless player, the contract is heavily front loaded in years 1/2 which Vegas would largely dodge.

At 500k retained his real salary is

5.5m/3.5m/4.5m/3.5m for the remaining years.

That's not that bad. He can help them get into the playoffs this year.
But there's no reason for them to saddle themselves with his contract, nor is there anything equivalent to return. Reilly Smith is the only option I see and I don't think they do that.

NMCs make Lucic moving nearly impossible.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to moving Puljujarvi for someone more proven. But it would have to be an obvious present win, not some other struggling prospect. So I guess that's unlikely.

I like the lineup they practiced today, just a shame it's Yamamoto in the top 6 and not someone more proven. Would help balance them out a lot.
 

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Connor McDavid and 2018 1st for Auston Matthews.

That's just about as realistic as some of the suggestions in this thread like Lucic being unhappy here, Chia trading him, a team willing to take on his contract, Chia getting fired this year. The board has gone off the deep end, team needs to win some games soon or this place might completely jump the shark.

To move back to reality, I wouldn't be surprised if they are looking to deal JP. The drafting of Yamamoto might make him somewhat expendable, he's not developing properly and they might want to deal him while his value is still high. Not saying he's a bust by any means but wouldn't be shocked if they are at least sniffing around to gauge his trade value for a more established player.
 
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IMO the team needed a top 4 dman before the season started. With Sekera likely back in 4 - 6 weeks (he has been skating for about 2 weeks now) that need has diminished.

They really do need another experienced top 6 RW though.
You'll hear no arguments from me on either. Just a massive fail to not address either of the team's two biggest needs in the offseason, especially since one was created for the sake of the almighty cap space.
 

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Galchenyuk can be a 30 goal scorer ... question is does Todd have the patience to work with this player. From what I've seen, I doubt it. Once you get in Todd's dog house ... good luck getting out.
 
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That's just about as realistic as some of the suggestions in this thread like Lucic being unhappy here, Chia trading him, a team willing to take on his contract, Chia getting fired this year. The board has gone off the deep end, team needs to win some games soon or this place might completely jump the shark.
I agree with most of these things but Chia being turfed should seriously be considered if the team misses the playoffs this season.
 

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That's just about as realistic as some of the suggestions in this thread like Lucic being unhappy here, Chia trading him, a team willing to take on his contract, Chia getting fired this year. The board has gone off the deep end, team needs to win some games soon or this place might completely jump the shark.

This is true. I think there's almost zero chance Lucic is throwing in the towel after a second round playoff appearance and an unfortunate ten games into the second season. The team is just making too many mistakes right now, they should be winning games, they just aren't.
 

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That's just about as realistic as some of the suggestions in this thread like Lucic being unhappy here, Chia trading him, a team willing to take on his contract, Chia getting fired this year. The board has gone off the deep end, team needs to win some games soon or this place might completely jump the shark.

Here here.

I took a break for a few days only to come back and see things worse than before I left.

Its like stupid is becoming more contagious with every loss...lol
 
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Galchenyuk is struggling and costs near 5M. Is Chia out of his mind if the rumours are true?
 

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I agree with most of these things but Chia being turfed should seriously be considered if the team misses the playoffs this season.

What's to "consider"? You have Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl. You've missed the playoffs 2/3 years. That should be an automatic firing.
 

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Galchenyuk is struggling and costs near 5M. Is Chia out of his mind if the rumours are true?

There is risk, but he also has scored 30 goals in this league and was on pace for 60+ points just one year ago.

He has a hell of a shot too, way better than anyone else on the team.
 
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What's to "consider"? You have Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl. You've missed the playoffs 2/3 years. That should be an automatic firing.
If injuries are a severe issue then that gives him an out. But if the team is relatively healthy and finishes in the bottom 10 in the standings then boom, outta here.
 

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I agree with most of these things but Chia being turfed should seriously be considered if the team misses the playoffs this season.

Honestly, I'd put that at zero chance. Well never say zero but extremely unlikely. Missing the playoffs would be a huge disappointment but I don't think Chia or Mclellan are even remotely on the hot seat. I think Nicholson really values continuity and they are going to give these guys more than one year to see this thing through. As impatient as the fans are, and I get it coming off of a 103 point season, this is still a long term project and their Cup window is just opening with such a young core of players not even close to hitting their prime yet.
 
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Honestly, I'd put that at zero chance. Missing the playoffs would be a huge disappointment but I don't think Chia or Mclellan or even remotely on the hot seat. I think Nicholson really values continuity and they are going to give these guys more than one year to see this thing through. As impatient as the fans are, and I get it coming off of a 103 point season, this is still a long term project and their Cup window is just opening with such a young core of players not even close to hitting their prime yet.

How in the world are you not on a hot seat when you've GMed a team to 2/3 playoff misses with Connor McDavid.
 

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If injuries are a severe issue then that gives him an out. But if the team is relatively healthy and finishes in the bottom 10 in the standings then boom, outta here.

I would fire him even if they make the playoffs. That should not be the goal. The goal is to build a legit contender and he has largely failed to do so. His job after trading Hall was to replace Hall's impact on the team and he has not done that.
 

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There is risk, but he also has scored 30 goals in this league and was on pace for 60+ points just one year ago.

He has a hell of a shot too, way better than anyone else on the team.
Galchenyuk is worse than Ebs and we all know what Ebs returned. Galchenyuk does not cost Pulju
 

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Galchenyuk is struggling and costs near 5M. Is Chia out of his mind if the rumours are true?
I really don't know what to make with Galchenyuk. Really feel the guy has been beat down for no real reason.

Guy was close to matching point totals if it weren't for injuries last season, yet all year it was just negative media. He is far from the fit we need, but the guy should have pretty decent value still at 23 years old
 

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Galchenyuk is worse than Ebs and we all know what Ebs returned. Galchenyuk does not cost Pulju

Galchenyuk is better than Eberle of the last three years.

He would have gone no.1 overall in his draft year had he not been injured for 85% of it. He was always way better than Yakupov.
 

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That's just about as realistic as some of the suggestions in this thread like Lucic being unhappy here, Chia trading him, a team willing to take on his contract, Chia getting fired this year. The board has gone off the deep end, team needs to win some games soon or this place might completely jump the shark.

To move back to reality, I wouldn't be surprised if they are looking to deal JP. The drafting of Yamamoto might make him somewhat expendable, he's not developing properly and they might want to deal him while his value is still high. Not saying he's a bust by any means but wouldn't be shocked if they are at least sniffing around to gauge his trade value for a more established player.
So Lucic is off limit but Pulju is not?
 

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How in the world are you not on a hot seat when you've GMed a team to 2/3 playoff misses with Connor McDavid.

McDavid was a rookie in one of those season and they had a massive rash of injuries, the next season they jumped way ahead of schedule so expectations got out of control. Management isn't as fickle as the fans, they aren't going to rebuild again after one down season. There will be disappointment and retooling will be in order but they aren't going to turf the GM who engineered the biggest turnaround in hockey one season prior.
Chia has his faults but that would be a big mistake and show me that these guys have learned nothing about constant change being a bad thing for young players.
 
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Honestly, I'd put that at zero chance. Well never say zero but extremely unlikely. Missing the playoffs would be a huge disappointment but I don't think Chia or Mclellan are even remotely on the hot seat. I think Nicholson really values continuity and they are going to give these guys more than one year to see this thing through. As impatient as the fans are, and I get it coming off of a 103 point season, this is still a long term project and their Cup window is just opening with such a young core of players not even close to hitting their prime yet.
I don't think either will be fired either but there's no reason to miss the playoffs this year unless the team is decimated by injury (which right now it's not). This is the year to go for the Stanley Cup and right now not only do the Oilers not look like a Cup contender they don't even look like a playoff team. At this juncture that's simply unacceptable, especially when worse teams are doing better than us and even those with injury problems are still surviving.
 
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