Vegas is in our division. Were we willing to get caught with our dick in our hands if McPhee wants to play hardball?
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McNuge
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Oh they for sure count, but just take a look at what teams he was putting up points against.
Jordan Eberle 2016-17 Game Log | Hockey-Reference.com
Calgary, which we crushed all year, Colorado which everyone crushed, and Vancouver, which once again everyone crushed. He managed to hit 20 goals with 12 coming against non playoff teams, 4 against Calgary, and 4 against playoff teams. Wow... what an absolute beast.
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I'd actually be curious to see that kind of goal analysis done for a couple prior years as well. There's a difference between scoring in easy games vs tight checking 1st goal wins kind of games. I know I have my opinion on what the results would be... that said though, every player will score more against weaker teams. Just something I've been curious about since the "Eberle only scores against..." narrative popped up. My opinion is he's definitely better off in the east.
I know that this isn't exactly the be-all and end-all of stats, but quite frankly I don't really agree with this sentiment for the main reason that Eberle had exactly 0 Game Winning Goals last season.
I decided to run the numbers on the types of points he scored in each game, and to his credit, 6 of his goals were game-tying goals, of which we wound up winning 4 of those games. Half of his total goals (10) were scored when we were already leading. He scored our first goal 4 times. He scored 2 empty net goals.
Of his 20 goals, 12 of them came against Vancouver, Calgary, and Colorado (evenly split at 4 per team). Of the remaining 8 goals, three of them were against playoff teams (2 against PIT, 1 against NSH). Counting Calgary, 7/20 of Eberle's goals were against teams that made the playoffs. Other than Calgary and Vancouver, Eberle did not score against a Pacific Division team.
Assists fare a bit better, as 14/31 of Eberle's assists were against teams that made playoffs. Eberle definitely performed better as a playmaker against Pacific Division teams, putting up 13 assists in 29 divisional games. Eberle certainly had a big impact in game #26 in particular, with 3 points against the Ducks in a 3-2 OT victory, so I'll give him direct credit for those points. Overall, including the power play and empty net, 13/31 of his assists were primary assists, which isn't a terrible ratio.
He's definitely not a bad player by any means, but he's streaky - he had 8 different stretches of 5 games of more without scoring a goal, including one span of 19 Games (Games 29 - 46 inclusive) without scoring a goal. As others have mentioned, four of his goals (20% of his total, that is) came after we clinched the playoffs.
Jordan Eberle, in my eyes, is most effective as a "win more" player - once you have established an offensive presence (hopefully with a goal or two on the board), he can help you extend that lead. There's a place for this type of player, but I question whether the playoffs in the Pacific is that sort of place.
Del Preston
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MacTavish was probably lost.
Do the Sabres have any 20-25 point wingers they are trying to dump for a first rounder?
Del Preston
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In all seriousness, I have no idea because they need a lot of help in all areas. The Oilers are looking for a defenseman right now according to the media though.
So is Buffalo which had me wondering why they would be scouting the Amerks. Maybe he was there to see Bingo?
Del Preston
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Maybe we can just merge organizations and have the Sabres-Oilers play somewhere in between Buffalo and Edmonton.
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No. Only player that's untouchable is McDavid. The rest can go. f*** em all.
RinkRatOil
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I used to get really attached to players. But now I dont care. Truly do whatever to bring the cup here. Aside from 97 truly.
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The Oilers are being relegated to the AHL?
Still wouldnt score lmfao
redgrant
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OK that explains why they suck so badly.
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Well, this was the game that solidified my belief that we won't be making the playoffs. We better not be buying, at all.
Every move that gets made better be in th interest of next season.
Every move that gets made better be in th interest of next season.
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I think Buffalo fans would burn down Botterill’s house if he traded the only good D prospect in an organization with maybe 2 NHL defensemen.
He is Buffalos only high end defense prospect. Easy to see why they’d be interested but I can’t see Buffalo willingly moving him at this point. Everyone in the org keeps talking about letting him develop so that his first recall is his only recall.
Considering the cap situation we are in next year, I imagine the bottom six wingers will be flushed out and replaced, a third pairing d man added and yet again our season will ride on the fact that JP and Yamo are NHL ready.
Guys better get used to this roster because I don’t think shit all is going to change.
Guys better get used to this roster because I don’t think shit all is going to change.
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Some people ignore beetle did not hit 20 until the last 2 games of the year and got goose eggs in the playoffs
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