Proposal: Trade Rumours & Proposals Thread: Will we ever get another dman?

[BarDownBobo]

Not just HFboards.....the province of Ontario would explode in media rage.

As much as I'd like to see Stamkos sign to play with Connor and refuel our hype machine he would be forever ostracized from his offseason home if he did this.

I......guess....he could just move to Edmonton permanently though.

Press; but Steven why did you announce a press conference in Toronto if you are signing a contract with Edmonton?
Stamkos; I needed to pack my stuff.....and this is where my old house is.

It'll be an hour long special. The Decision: 2016. Will conclude with Stammer proclaiming that he's taking his talents to Northern Alberta.

 

[Jumptheshark]

It'll be an hour long special. The Decision: 2016. Will conclude with Stammer proclaiming that he's taking his talents to Northern Alberta.

I think I can speak for 99% of Oiler fans in saying we want to see the reaction from TSN and other big smoke media outlets who have got Stammer in a leaf uniform--only to see him sign somewhere else--

 

[McAsuno]

I think I can speak for 99% of Oiler fans in saying we want to see the reaction from TSN and other big smoke media outlets who have got Stammer in a leaf uniform--only to see him sign somewhere else--

After that crap they went off about with McDavid's facial expression, I hope so. It'll be even more sweeter if Stamkos signs here just to hear TSN and the rest of the media cry foul.

 

[Fishy McScales]

If Stamkos signs with the Oilers I'd be more excited about TSN's tears than a McDavid-Stamkos line.

 

[MPStoEberletoHall*]

If Stammer signed here it would be nuts.

Laine/Puljujarvi-McDavid-Stamkos
Hall-Draisaitl-Kassian
______-_______-Yakupov

Ship out RNH + Eberle + 1st round pick in 2017 for help on the blueline

Get it done Chia

 

[Tarus]

Stamkos isn't signing here, especially not to play on Mcdavid's wing when half his issue with Cooper is the fact that the coach sees him more as a winger.

Doesn't even really fit the Oilers needs even if he's fine with playing wing. Rather see the Oilers throw money at a UFA defenseman, rather than another high skill forward that will see his stats depress in Edmonton because no one on the backend is capable of making a pass or creating a play.

 

[VainGretzky]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think Edmonton is the landing spot for Stamkos come next off-season.

I'm not sure it'll be a positive thing for this franchise moving forward, and making the money work will be a certain challenge, but it's possible.

Yes most important thing the team needs is another high priced forward.

 

[Wheathead]

I doubt Chiarelli even calls Stamkos' agent to talk about Stamkos in the summer. That's just so pie in the sky I can't even comprehend it.

 

[smokersarejokers]

Stamkos isn't signing here, especially not to play on Mcdavid's wing when half his issue with Cooper is the fact that the coach sees him more as a winger.

Doesn't even really fit the Oilers needs even if he's fine with playing wing. Rather see the Oilers throw money at a UFA defenseman, rather than another high skill forward that will see his stats depress in Edmonton because no one on the backend is capable of making a pass or creating a play.

End thread haha.

I guess people can dream, but Stamkos to Edmonton is extremely unlikely for all of the reasons that you listed.

 

[joestevens29]

I doubt Chiarelli even calls Stamkos' agent to talk about Stamkos in the summer. That's just so pie in the sky I can't even comprehend it.

Why not? Keep in mind the majority of this team isn't guys PC brought in. Bringing in Stamkos allows PC to move one of those pieces that he was here before him for a d-man.

I don't think it's likely, but not making a call to gauge interest on a guy like Stamkos seems rather dumb.

 

[Hoogaar23]

Why not? Keep in mind the majority of this team isn't guys PC brought in. Bringing in Stamkos allows PC to move one of those pieces that he was here before him for a d-man.

I don't think it's likely, but not making a call to gauge interest on a guy like Stamkos seems rather dumb.

Agreed. If he's not at least making the call he's not doing his job.

I'm not a huge Stamkos fan, but there's no denying he's been one of the best goal scorers in the NHL since he's come in to the league. Still had prime years ahead of him, and as has been mentioned, if you can get him for "free", that opens you up to trading some of our other top forwards for help on D. I don't think there is much debate that Stamkos > basically anyone on our team except McDavid going forward.

That said, I probably wouldn't want to pay him what I assume he will be looking for (I'm thinking he's not signing for less than $10m, and to me that's too much)

 

[Draiskull]

Stamkos coming to Edmonton would be comparable to Hossa going to CHI.
That team was already stacked with young talent and it seemed there is no chance CHI would want him but they paid up and created a dynasty.

After getting him they did lose a lot of their supposed core player though due to cap restraints. (Ladd, Brouwer, Byfuglien, Versteeg, Campbell) so not sure how smart a move it was.

If Stamkos prefers C then Hall-Stamkos-Draisaitl could also work. Swap Drai for Purcell if going with 3 scoring lines. Purcell is buddies with Stamkos.

 

[BlowbyBlow]

Stamkos coming to Edmonton would be comparable to Hossa going to CHI.
That team was already stacked with young talent and it seemed there is no chance CHI would want him but they paid up and created a dynasty.

After getting him they did lose a lot of their supposed core player though due to cap restraints. (Ladd, Brouwer, Byfuglien, Versteeg, Campbell) so not sure how smart a move it was.

If Stamkos prefers C then Hall-Stamkos-Draisaitl could also work. Swap Drai for Purcell if going with 3 scoring lines. Purcell is buddies with Stamkos.

They won 3 cups with Hossa, and playoffs come Hossa is a gamer, 5 cup finals - 3 wins he's just an irreplaceable part of the core.

That line would be sick, and to think you would have Mcdavid bolstering another line.

In playoffs, in cup runs you need all star style play. People like to say Chicago wins cause there balanced, and that's so untrue they have elite players at all positions except goalie.

Look at Nashville I would say that's a balanced team, same as St. Louis, but they don't have players that are completely over the edge of ability and talent.

The only problem is when you get to top heavy and are like Washington/Pittsburgh but i eventually see Washington at least making cup finals. There is just no reason they shouldn't

 

[Aerrol]

I know it sounds crazy, but this is a guy who has a great shot at being one of the top 3 goal scores of all time. He has a higher career goals per game average than even Ovechkin.

If Stamkos truly cares about his legacy in the game, and has seen first hand what a player like Martin St. Louis did for his totals, how do you think he'd feel about playing with a generational talent like McDavid? How many more goals does he score over a seven year deal with McDavid feeding and creating for him instead of Kadri or Galchenyuk etc?

This seemed wrong to me so I went to check, and it definitely is.

Ovechkin - 502 Goals in 804 games, 0.624 goals per game.
Stamkos - 296 Goals in 537 games, 0.551 goals per game.

Stamkos has a hell of a shot, but he's not catching Ovechkin barring some miraculous turn-around in his current production (he'd have to go back to scoring 60 in multiple seasons to make up for his current reduction in goals scored) or Ovi retiring unexpectedly early. Ovechkin is a much better player and always has been IMO. Stamkos has a great shot that rivals Ovechkin's, but he isn't as fast, or as physical. And lately, he's not even close defensively either.

And in general, I also think discussing Stamkos coming here is silly. I suppose it's a possibility that should be explored but it makes very little sense for us. We already have too much cap space spent on forwards and he doesn't want to be a winger (as has been said). But we don't have much else to discuss atm, so... meh.

Still hoping for Shattenkirk, since my Jones dream is dead.

 

[s7ark]

Stamkos isn't coming here unless he's willing to sign for between 8-9M. He'd have to leave a lot of money on the table.

Throwing a big contract at a top pairing UFA D is a much better option for this team. I'm still holding out hope that the Oilers pick up Hamonic at the draft for their pick and Buff/Yandle on July 1st.

 

[Beerfish]

Stamkos isn't signing here, especially not to play on Mcdavid's wing when half his issue with Cooper is the fact that the coach sees him more as a winger.

Doesn't even really fit the Oilers needs even if he's fine with playing wing. Rather see the Oilers throw money at a UFA defenseman, rather than another high skill forward that will see his stats depress in Edmonton because no one on the backend is capable of making a pass or creating a play.

Scoring goals and a pp sniper is not a need for the Oilers? We have this totally unfounded rep as being some offensive young team becasue of all the young forward talent we have drafted, that simply is not the case. Now Stamkos for a number of reasons would be a massive long shot but I would 100% for sure see if he was available.

 

[Aerrol]

Stamkos isn't coming here unless he's willing to sign for between 8-9M. He'd have to leave a lot of money on the table.

Throwing a big contract at a top pairing UFA D is a much better option for this team. I'm still holding out hope that the Oilers pick up Hamonic at the draft for their pick and Buff/Yandle on July 1st.

This would be too good to be true. I'd expect we'd have to pay more than that for Hamonic, but adding him and Buff or Yandle as UFAs would be unreal. I'd prefer Yandle but I think the Rangers sign him.

I think my pie in the sky trade and signing this summer would be Shattenkirk (trade) and Buff (sign), followed closely by Hamonic and Yandle. Hamonic and Yandle would be a better pairing, but I think Shattenkirk and Buff complement what we already have better.

For instance - Klefbom/Sekera - Shattenkirk, Klefbom/Nurse - Buff looks pretty great to me as a top 4.

 

[joestevens29]

Stamkos isn't coming here unless he's willing to sign for between 8-9M. He'd have to leave a lot of money on the table.

Throwing a big contract at a top pairing UFA D is a much better option for this team. I'm still holding out hope that the Oilers pick up Hamonic at the draft for their pick and Buff/Yandle on July 1st.

That seems as likely as us getting Stamkos

 

[McTrashBoat]

This whole Stamkos thing is intriguing, however unlikely.

I think most would agree if we signed Stamkos, we would use 1 or 2 of Eberle, RNH, and Yak to trade for D.

So at what salary is Stamkos preferable to Eberle and RNH at 6 mil each?

He has more points in fewer games than Eberle and RNH combined, if you want to just consider points.

 

[Halibut]

Hey while we're at it why dont we talk about trades for Crosby and Ovechkin? Makes about as much sense as signing Stamkos and we're about as likely to work out trades as we are to be able to get Stamkos to sign a reasonable contract. For those who actually think it's possible how high are you willing to go $12m per season for 7 years cause that's probably what it takes to get him here.

 

[Draiskull]

Hey while we're at it why dont we talk about trades for Crosby and Ovechkin? Makes about as much sense as signing Stamkos and we're about as likely to work out trades as we are to be able to get Stamkos to sign a reasonable contract. For those who actually think it's possible how high are you willing to go $12m per season for 7 years cause that's probably what it takes to get him here.

Are Crosby and Ovechkin pending UFAs? Stamkos is.
As for fitting him into lineup.. Would you rather have Purcell+Stamkos or RNH+Eberle @ ~12M?

Now consider how you can turn RNH into a Brodin or Hamonic and walk away from Schultz. Do something similar with Eberle.

Is fetching Stamkos likely? No ... Is it impossible? No

There is no harm in discussing it considering he will be testing the market shortly and all the RNH for Hamonic rumors.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Stamkos won't be an Oiler. And at his cap hit, we don't need him here either. Lets focus more $ on D

 

[McTrashBoat]

Stamkos won't be an Oiler. And at his cap hit, we don't need him here either. Lets focus more $ on D

What do you think his cap hit will be though?

Maybe he's a humble down to earth guy satisfied with $8 or $9 million dollars a year

 

[Aerrol]

What do you think his cap hit will be though?

Maybe he's a humble down to earth guy satisfied with $8 or $9 million dollars a year

Then why wouldn't he stay with his current team?

I'd guess he's getting around $12 mill too if he leaves Tampa.

 

[Mr Positive]

What do you think his cap hit will be though?

Maybe he's a humble down to earth guy satisfied with $8 or $9 million dollars a year

I could see it. It's a lot of money still, and we have better taxes here than in places like Montreal and Toronto so I wonder how much total he hauls if he is paid less here.

Of course a team like Nashville or St.Louis has an edge over us in that regard. I could see St.Louis getting Stamkos big time.