Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXX

[SensFactor]

Career.

Mercer is younger and accomplished more already. The difference in average ice time this year is 2 seconds, each play 15.5 minutes a night.

Not far behind Pinto, especially considering the talent they play with…

Team is bad. +/- is a pointless stat.

Tkachuck, Stutzle, Sanderson, Norris > Pinto.
Again, was just asking. Cheers.

Just saying, Sens wouldn't include him in a trade for Chychrun....would take a good trade to make it happen

 

[Sens Vader]

There are definitely a lot of dman available

good sgn

 

[Cowumbus]

Just saying, Sens wouldn't include him in a trade for Chychrun....would take a good trade to make it happen

Yep he’s a good player, I don’t blame them.

Wasn’t sure if the Sens were going to be able to pay him 5 mill to be a 3C and upgrade their D - that’s why I was asking about Peeke. Seems like you’d rather move him for a piece more like Weeger, if at all.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Career.

Mercer is younger and accomplished more already. The difference in average ice time this year is 2 seconds, each play 15.5 minutes a night.

Not far behind Pinto, especially considering the talent they play with…

Team is bad. +/- is a pointless stat.

Tkachuck, Stutzle, Sanderson, Norris > Pinto.
Again, was just asking. Cheers.

Lol, now it’s career, you never mentioned that,
And career wise Mercer has played nearly twice as many games lol.

 

[SensFactor]

Yep he’s a damn good player, I don’t blame them.

Wasn’t sure if the Sens were going to be able to pay him 5 mill to be a 3C and upgrade their D - that’s why I was asking about Peeke. Seems like you’d rather move him for a piece more like Weeger, if at all.

They are likely going to bridge him this year to a $3m contract at the end of the year. Gives them time to move Zaitsev $4.5M contract offers the books for next year. Also I wouldn't be surprised if they moved Joseph at some point.

 

[Que]

Tin foil hat time.

We’ve been linked to a LD in Gavrikov and we’ve been told that Kleven goes straight to the show.

But we have 3 very capable LD in Sandy, Branny and Chabby. Who’s the odd man out?

I think Chabot may be on his way out. Maybe in a swap for a RD…

 

[Cowumbus]

Lol, now it’s career, you never mentioned that,
And career wise Mercer has played nearly twice as many games lol.

I never mentioned this season either… “lol”

That’s half of my point. Mercer is younger and already more proven than Pinto, has better stats /rates in a larger sample size too.

Career scoring
Pinto 0.45PPG
Mercer 0.55PPG (sample size is 2x as large)
Pinto ATOI 14:53 career, 15:34 this season
Mercer ATOI 16:10 career, 15:36 this season
5v5
Pinto 1.55P/60, 1.4P/60 this year
Mercer 1.82 P/60, 2.0P/60 this year

Both should get better too.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Tin foil hat time.

We’ve been linked to a LD in Gavrikov and we’ve been told that Kleven goes straight to the show.

But we have 3 very capable LD in Sandy, Branny and Chabby. Who’s the odd man out?

I think Chabot may be on his way out. Maybe in a swap for a RD…

Never saw anyone say Kleven right to the show.
Will he get a game or some when NCAA season over , yes, but no idea for next fall.

But If you have a link that thinks management thinks he’ll skip the AHL , I’ll definitely read it.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Tin foil hat time.

We’ve been linked to a LD in Gavrikov and we’ve been told that Kleven goes straight to the show.

But we have 3 very capable LD in Sandy, Branny and Chabby. Who’s the odd man out?

I think Chabot may be on his way out. Maybe in a swap for a RD…

I doubt Kleven is going to be an NHLer immediately. Will likely need at least a year or two in Belleville.

But we should absolutely be exploring a deal based around Chabot for Karlsson right now.

Whether Chabot goes to SJ or a 3rd team for futures, shouldn't matter. Framework for a deal is there.

 

[bicboi64]

Tin foil hat time.

We’ve been linked to a LD in Gavrikov and we’ve been told that Kleven goes straight to the show.

But we have 3 very capable LD in Sandy, Branny and Chabby. Who’s the odd man out?

I think Chabot may be on his way out. Maybe in a swap for a RD…

Chabot, Boucher, 2024 1st to SJ Karlsson at 25% retention.

Zaitsev and Thomson to CBJ for Gavrikov.

Talbot, Watson & Holden to LA for Walker.

Cat Stu Giroux
Tkachuk Norris Bath
Grieg Pinto Joseph
Kelly Kastelic Gauthier

Sanderson Karlsson
Brannstrom Zub
Gavrikov Walker

Cup run here we come next year

 

[OD99]

Never saw anyone say Kleven right to the show.

One person, but was expected he would think that.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I wonder if Diamond Sports going under means a few of the affectdd teams in the US have quickly decided to cut costs.

It seems there are a lot of players available for futures all of a sudden.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Trading for Colton or Weegar is a bad idea if you wanna keep Cat around long-term I rather pass on both and look at someone like Mayfield or Murphy types who won’t break the bank too much.

 

[dumbdick]

Yep he’s a good player, I don’t blame them.

Wasn’t sure if the Sens were going to be able to pay him 5 mill to be a 3C and upgrade their D - that’s why I was asking about Peeke. Seems like you’d rather move him for a piece more like Weeger, if at all.

I really like Peeke. I was pumping him a couple seasons back when he (seemed) more available. But not for Pinto. To me they are not in the same class value wise.

If Peeke's available though I'd be pretty ecstatic if Dorion targets him with picks/futures or as part of a bigger deal.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Vegas just acquired Mayo for a 5th

Probably a nothing trade but they are the last team that needs additional RD depth. Wonder if it may help make someone like Miromanov available.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

I think Dorian and Co. Should see where Kleven’s head is at - any hesitation on him signing and you have to make him available.

If he goes into next year unsigned - he is gone. As simple as that. And I don’t blame him.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Knights acquire Mayo. Always like Mayo when i watched him.



These are the smart moves

 

[bicboi64]

I really like Peeke. I was pumping him a couple seasons back when he (seemed) more available. But not for Pinto. To me they are not in the same class value wise.

If Peeke's available though I'd be pretty ecstatic if Dorion targets him with picks/futures or as part of a bigger deal.

BJ fans said he could be available for a 2nd. They just need improvement period. Could be had for a fair price and would be a better gamble on the RD than having Hamonic there as the main option

 

[Silencio]

I wonder if Diamond Sports going under means a few of the affectdd teams in the US have quickly decided to cut costs.

It seems there are a lot of players available for futures all of a sudden.

Definitely possible....St Louis is one of the teams affected, and now they are allegedly "giving away" players like Parayko and Krug.

 

[dumbdick]

I think Dorian and Co. Should see where Kleven’s head is at - any hesitation on him signing and you have to make him available.

If he goes into next year unsigned - he is gone. As simple as that. And I don’t blame him.

Pretty hot take. But is it really as simple as that?

He's a not-so-surefire prospect coming up in a system that is lacking in defence prospects. It's also a team that liked him enough to draft him and probably values him as much or more than any other. Is the grass so green elsewhere that he would risk his NHL chances to injury or a down year in his final year of college?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I doubt Kleven is going to be an NHLer immediately. Will likely need at least a year or two in Belleville.

But we should absolutely be exploring a deal based around Chabot for Karlsson right now.

Whether Chabot goes to SJ or a 3rd team for futures, shouldn't matter. Framework for a deal is there.

100%

 

[dumbdick]

BJ fans said he could be available for a 2nd. They just need improvement period. Could be had for a fair price and would be a better gamble on the RD than having Hamonic there as the main option

Sweet. Get her done. This guy would be like another Demelo for us. He would eat a ton of minutes and could anchor a pairing with Sandy or Brann.

I wouldn't think twice about dishing a 2nd for that.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Pretty hot take. But is it really as simple as that?

He's a not-so-surefire prospect coming up in a system that is lacking in defence prospects. It's also a team that liked him enough to draft him and probably values him as much or more than any other. Is the grass so green elsewhere that he would risk his NHL chances to injury or a down year in his final year of college?

Obviously you sign him if you can this year - but Ottawa would be dumb to not panic if he wanted to go back for his senior year.

FWIW: I think going back for his senior year would be best from a development standpoint anyway.

If you’re Kleven, wouldn’t you want the opprotunity to choose where you go?

 

[dumbdick]

Obviously you sign him if you can this year - but Ottawa would be dumb to not panic if he wanted to go back for his senior year.

FWIW: I think going back for his senior year would be best from a development standpoint anyway.

If you’re Kleven, wouldn’t you want the opprotunity to choose where you go?

If I was Kleven, I'd want to just get to the NHL wherever I can. He's not Eric Lindros. I'm not even sure he's going to be an NHL player.

So if I'm him I'm just going to try to ink a deal as soon as possible, accomplish my lifelong dream and get myself paid. I'm certainly not going to tarnish my chances by playing holdout. He's not in a position to be picky. Dorion knows that, which is probably why nobody is panicking about signing this deal.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

If I was Kleven, I'd want to just get to the NHL wherever I can. He's not Eric Lindros. I'm not even sure he's going to be an NHL player.

So if I'm him I'm just going to try to ink a deal as soon as possible, accomplish my lifelong dream and get myself paid. I'm certainly not going to tarnish my chances by playing holdout. He's not in a position to be picky. Dorion knows that, which is probably why nobody is panicking about signing this deal.

He absolutely is in a position to be picky.

For the same reason Henry Thurn is in the position to be picky.

If he doesn’t sign this season, you trade him. Simple as that. He is too good of an asset to let go for nothing.