Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXII

[JimmySpaetzle]

Uh oh

 

[GCK]

To Buffalo - Alex Kerfoot post SB, 2023 3rd from Ottawa, 2023 2nd from Toronto.

To Ottawa - Nothing

To Toronto - Matt Murray w/Buffalo retaining 33% 5M over 2 years.

Who says no ?

 

[2CHAINZ]

please

I'm just here for my daily dose of @BUCKLE UP

Isn't Holl terrible?

I heard he's a black Holl

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Uh oh

Literally why tho? A good goalie would just cost the same as Murray anyways, and Forsberg/Gus are already on one-way contracts.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Uh oh

Makes sense don’t think you can count on Forsberg or Gust to lead the way full-time.

 

[SensHulk]

Sounds like Gus is gonna be dangled for any upcoming trade.

 

[Bevans]

Is Gus going to be part of this trade?

Considering senators depth at goaltending I much prefer giving him up to High picks or strong prospects.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Literally why tho? A good goalie would just cost the same as Murray anyways, and Forsberg/Gus are already on one-way contracts.

Maybe they move Gust or Forsberg as well lol I think it’s exciting probably going to see a way different upgraded team for once!

 

[Ouroboros]

Uh oh

This fits with the rumours out of Colorado that the Sens will be in on Kuemper.

 

[Tuna99]

Ott: Matthew Knies
Tor: Murray, $2 million retained by the sister

 

[Cosmix]

Who would everyone’s preference be on

Chychrun Weegar and Marino? Assuming they all have varying degrees of value

I was expecting we target Petry or Myers but it’s nice we’re looking at guys higher profile with a better age range

With Holden, MDZ and Hamonic, we already have enough old Fxxxxxs.

 

[OgieO]

Do not like the thought of Dorion trading big contracts in cap dumps. He'll give up way too many assets. Scary stuff. Even scarier thinking what Toronto will do to him in that trade.

 

[Micklebot]

This fits with the rumours out of Colorado that the Sens will be in on Kuemper.

How much does Kuemper expect? I feel like adding him means saying goodbye to any chance of Giroux and a top 4 Dman. I suspect we can at most have two of the three, and perhaps just one.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Dubas is pretty good at trades, I’m worried.

 

[cudi]

How much does Kuemper expect? I feel like adding him means saying goodbye to any chance of Giroux and a top 4 Dman. I suspect we can at most have two of the three, and perhaps just one.

I read he wants a Grubauer contract which is scary.

 

[Micklebot]

Do not like the thought of Dorion trading big contracts in cap dumps. He'll give up way too many assets. Scary stuff. Even scarier thinking what Toronto will do to him in that trade.

I guess it comes down to how much is moving down from 7 to 16 worth, or whatever the failed Murray deal was.

Is it a 2023 second? I could live with that

Is it one of our D prospects (Brannstrom, JBD, Thomson)? I'd be weary of that but it wouldn't be the end of the world,

Is it Pinto or Greig? F that...

 

[OgieO]

I guess it comes down to how much is moving down from 7 to 16 worth, or whatever the failed Murray deal was.

Is it a 2023 second? I could live with that

Is it one of our D prospects (Brannstrom, JBD, Thomson)? I'd be weary of that but it wouldn't be the end of the world,

Is it Pinto or Greig? F that...

I was guessing a 2nd and a good prospect like JBD. But I'm jaded.

 

[Korpse]

Paying goaltenders in FA is always scary.

 

[GCK]

Literally why tho? A good goalie would just cost the same as Murray anyways, and Forsberg/Gus are already on one-way contracts.

If you can upgrade the position you definitely do it.

 

[Ouroboros]

How much does Kuemper expect? I feel like adding him means saying goodbye to any chance of Giroux and a top 4 Dman. I suspect we can at most have two of the three, and perhaps just one.

I'd imagine somewhere between 5-6M. Not sure it necessarily precludes Giroux. The top-4 dman could end being Justin Holl coming from Toronto in any Murray trade, and he's very inexpensive.

I would also anticipate that the team is planning on cutting more money. You can probably bet on MDZ being bought out [saves 1.5M this season], Zaitsev is probably going [saves 2M] and there's a lot of smoke around Connor Brown going [saves 4M].

 

[2CHAINZ]

How much does Kuemper expect? I feel like adding him means saying goodbye to any chance of Giroux and a top 4 Dman. I suspect we can at most have two of the three, and perhaps just one.

I'm curious about this as well. I don't think he was really that great last year. Colorado didn't even entertain bringing him back after he won the cup with them which is pretty telling of what they think of him as a goalie and/or his contract demands.

 

[Micklebot]

I read he wants a Grubauer contract which is scary.

Hmm.

Grubauer is better than he showed in Seattle, but I suspect just like Grubauer we'd see a big drop in Kuemper's numbers here vs Colorado. I don't know that we can afford that for a guy that imo is boosted by the team he plays for.

 

[GCK]

How much does Kuemper expect? I feel like adding him means saying goodbye to any chance of Giroux and a top 4 Dman. I suspect we can at most have two of the three, and perhaps just one.

I’ve heard Keumper was looking for something similar to Grubhauer 5.9 x 6. Not worth it IMO.

 

[SensHulk]

Paying goaltenders in FA is always scary.

Splashy moves for goalies (UFA or trade) have rarely worked out for the sens. Barrasso, Gerber, and now Murray. Only one remotely close to a success was Hasek but he had a solid team in front of him and only played like 3/4 of a season

We instead are more successful with the under the radar moves like Lalime, Anderson, and now Forsberg (TBD). Keumper feels more along the lines of the Gerber signing

 

[Neiler]

I don't think there's a prayer Dorion offers big money to Kuemper. He's literally today getting out of getting absolutely scorched by a guy who should have been much more and he gave up assets to get him. I could see someone else if they've lost faith in Gus but I don't think it'd be anyone significant. It would be a huge slap in the face to Forsberg to sign him to a deal and then make him sit.