Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXII

[BUCKLE UP]

Isn't Holl terrible?

Yes

 

[GoSenatorsGo]

My money is on Muzzin, either way it’ll be a shocker. Our trades with the Leafs are always unpredictable

 

[saskriders]

My money is on Muzzin, either way it’ll be a shocker. Our trades with the Leafs are always unpredictable

Seems reasonable. We get a bit more contract space and fill a roster hole. They fill a bigger roster hole.

 

[TheDebater]

Why would any GM in the NHL, after watching Murray over the past two years in Ottawa, logically think that trading for him is a good idea to improve your goaltending situation?

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Yes

The ladies in Toronto will be sad to see him go if traded here lol

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Would we be happy with Muzzin if he was the top 4 D-man they were talking about acquiring?

 

[GCK]

Ok, so what about the season after that? We can't backload forever. We'll have to pay Stutzle, plus have to deal with larger salaries from backloading. The budget is only going to get tighter and tighter.

It's unlikely we'll be able to keep Brown after the season, so we should move him now while he has value, we have needs (top 4 defenseman, sweeteners for dumping Murray/Zaitsev). If we bring Giroux in, we're way too deep up front, and too thin on D. Playing Joseph on the 4th line while we have Hamonic in our top 4 is silly.

Revenues climb, contracts come off the books, cap goes up. It’s simple economics, 5M dollars in the NHL today will be 8M in 4 years with growth. Eventually if the team gets very good there will be seasons where salary is higher than cap but revenues will be higher as well.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I don’t understand this push to get rid of Murray via trade.

 

[Neiler]

Would we be happy with Muzzin if he was the top 4 D-man they were talking about acquiring?

Not really, but it could be worse. The contracts have the same length with 600k (I think) in the difference. Would give Ottawa a passable RD for two years. Better than Zaitsev.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Why would any GM in the NHL, after watching Murray over the past two years in Ottawa, logically think that trading for him is a good idea to improve your goaltending situation?

One under pressure to win and who literally does not have a goalie and who can get assets back

 

[GCK]

Not liking the sounds of all the ‘failed’ trade attempts by Ottawa; we almost took on Kassian to get rid of MDZ according to Seravelli.

On the right side, the last time a failed trade was reported (Murray to BUF) we traded for Debrincat shortly after. Here’s hoping something good comes out…

Dude, I guarantee there was more than Kassian for Del Zotto and the Murray to Buffalo makes sense in terms of a 3 way.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Obviously the only dude who thinks this but like I watch Holl and I don’t laugh out loud at how bad he is. Like he’s just seems fine to me

 

[Senscore]

Why would any GM in the NHL, after watching Murray over the past two years in Ottawa, logically think that trading for him is a good idea to improve your goaltending situation?

This is like people watching Succession and thinking "I can fix him" about Kendall

 

[GCK]

Any guess what the trade will be for Murray ? Wonder if we get back Holl ? Not sure that’s good enough in terms of an upgrade on RD.

Holl is not an upgrade on Hamonic.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Dude, I guarantee there was more than Kassian for Del Zotto and the Murray to Buffalo makes sense in terms of a 3 way.

Yeah look at what edm paid to get rid of Kassian. Mdz has one year left only. We were likely getting some picks back. But then again some of dorions move that he did make would have sounded crazy if they were leaked beforehand

 

[GCK]

Seems reasonable. We get a bit more contract space and fill a roster hole. They fill a bigger roster hole.

Muzzin has NTC

 

[branch]

Im hoping for no more than 25% retained and I really don’t want Dorion paying our 2023 1st

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Im hoping for no more than 25% retained and I really don’t want Dorion paying our 2023 1st

If he trades the 2023 1st he automatically reverses the huge positive move with DeBrincat.

 

[Hale The Villain]

If we're retaining significantly on Murray, there really shouldn't be any assets attached to him at all.

Murray on a 2 year contract for something like 3.5-4M a year is pretty reasonable given the alternatives out there.

 

[GCK]

Holl and Kerfoot both have m-NTCs but combined only make 2.75M this year after Kerfoot’s bonus and both are in the final year of their contracts.

Murray can be bought out for 2.5 x 4 so I would hope there would be very little retention maybe 15%. We would likely have to add something like a 2nd.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Why would any GM in the NHL, after watching Murray over the past two years in Ottawa, logically think that trading for him is a good idea to improve your goaltending situation?

It blows my mind that there's any interest whatsoever, even creatively where you're not giving up much. I just want this guy gone more than anything. Remove the distraction.

 

[Bileur]

Would we be happy with Muzzin if he was the top 4 D-man they were talking about acquiring?

Muzzin is legit but I’d be quite concerned about the concussion history

 

[Hale The Villain]

Why would any GM in the NHL, after watching Murray over the past two years in Ottawa, logically think that trading for him is a good idea to improve your goaltending situation?

.906 SV% playing behind a putrid defense isn't terrible.

Outside of the 1st couple weeks where the team defense was perhaps the worst I've seen in years, Murray was pretty solid this season. Rebounded very nicely but couldn't stay healthy.

If the Leafs can't sign Kuemper or Campbell, Murray is arguably the best goalie available.

 

[Dan Patrick]

Thoughts on something like Murray(20% retained)+ a prospect like Crookshank OR Lodin + a 7th (2024)

 

[Skid]

.906 SV% playing behind a putrid defense isn't terrible.

Outside of the 1st couple weeks where the team defense was perhaps the worst I've seen in years, Murray was pretty solid this season. Rebounded very nicely but couldn't stay healthy.

If the Leafs can't sign Kuemper or Campbell, Murray is arguably the best goalie available.

Stop