Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[bert]

Devil's advocate for one minute: would Giroux have signed here if we hadn't acquired DBC? I wonder - and I'm serious. You don't just sign with your hometown team, you and your agent take a long, hard look. The DBC trade got the league's attention, did it push Giroux to sign here?

Yes, without a question. It was always happening with or without him.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Give it a rest already. No one is engaging in this yet it keeps being brought back up again.

What do the mods do around here?

wait for SensHulk to weigh in obviously

 

[Boud]

I still want to wait and see what happens here but it could definitely take a bad turn. It doesn't mean that if we don't get a 1rst the return will be horrible. I just hope Dorion is targeting the right pieces that Detroit has. This means guys like Berggren, Rasmussen, Mazur, Soderblom, etc..

Not ready to ring the alarm bells. I feel like there would be enough interest in DBC as a pure rental so that he would be worth more than 2/3 round pick + some average prospect.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Yes, without a question. It was always happening with or without him.

Ok then.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I still want to wait and see what happens here but it could definitely take a bad turn. It doesn't mean that if we don't get a 1rst the return will be horrible. I just hope Dorion is targeting the right pieces that Detroit has. This means guys like Berggren, Rasmussen, Mazur, Soderblom, etc..

Not ready to ring the alarm bells. I feel like there would be enough interest in DBC as a pure rental so that he would be worth more than 2/3 round pick + some average prospect.

Probably more at the TDL I'm guessing but that is a risk but could be in the longer term best interest of the team (wrt assets) vs preserving his job which I don't think happens regardless.

If he dumps the cost of DeBrincat for the year and makes the right moves in free agency the Sens could scrape into the playoffs. The roster needs work .. I am not holding my breath.

 

[BondraTime]

At the deadline we get a 27th overall pick and a B prospect + filler.

We get a Brassard return.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Potential bottom six guy

Isn't he one of those lunatics who basically tried to kill people in game or is that another Comtois?

 

[Big Muddy]

He couldn’t find his Tyler Boucher.

The "based on his scouting evaluations" was the weird part of it? I'm hoping he meant that the 1st rounder we would have got via the Debrincat trade wasn't that good based on his evaluations. The other interpretation that this draft wasn't very good seems pretty odd and hence less likely.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

I'd been fired about a year into it, because I'd be much more aggressive. Stone would have been gone the minute we couldn't come to an agreement, NO WAY I'm waiting until the deadline.

Karlsson, I would have ended up with a shittier package because I liked Foote as a prospect.

Duchene, who knows...

I might have been Ok, but I'm betting on a year max before I was shot to the moon.

You'd have eternal job security because the only thing that mattered was a low salary for GM.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

The "based on his scouting evaluations" was the weird part of it? I'm hoping he meant that the 1st rounder we would have got via the Debrincat trade wasn't that good based on his evaluations. The other interpretation that this draft wasn't very good seems pretty odd and hence less likely.

I don't see how it's not he latter, and also how it's not pure cope.

 

[BondraTime]

Isn't he one of those lunatics who basically tried to kill people in game or is that another Comtois?

Thinking of Patrice Cormier I’d think.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Isn't he one of those lunatics who basically tried to kill people in game or is that another Comtois?

He was not involved in anything like that.
He was in the news at the WJC because of social media vitriol

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

It's kinda crazy to think about how poorly this whole DeBrincat situation has played out...

1. Paid a massive price to get a small, scoring winger who typically don't bring huge returns
2. The player has a poor season
3. Team misses the playoffs
4. The player won't engage in contract talks at all, indicates he wants to test the market
5. No cap increase beyond the nominal 1M which makes also makes trades more difficult

Literally everything went wrong here.

And getting a top 6 LW wasn't a need, either.

 

[SpezDispenser]

You'd have eternal job security because the only thing that mattered was a low salary for GM.

Hooray! I'm in for the LONG haul then.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I'm not surprised that Dorion thinks the 2023 1st is weak, or at least the mid-late 1st where we'd be picking if we acquired a 1st.

Some of that is cope and BS because we don't have a 1st and he can't negotiate worth a damn and get one in return for DeBrincat, but it's certainly not all of it.

The Sens drafting under Mann, especially in recent years, has been very predictable in terms of what kind of players they are looking to add - big, tough, toolsy players that may not have high-end skill or IQ but project as NHLers in some capacity.

There's likely to be precious few of those available in the mid-late 1st this year, but the 2nd round should be ripe with potential targets that fit that mold. Think Wahlberg, Nelson. Lind, Burns, Bertucci. etc...

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

At the deadline we get a 27th overall pick and a B prospect + filler.

We get a Brassard return.

Worst case . A couple teams could have used a bump in cheap scoring (re reduced TDL price) .

 

[Sun God Nika]

Isn't he one of those lunatics who basically tried to kill people in game or is that another Comtois?

I think he was part of that WJC team.

 

[Micklebot]

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This seems in contrast with what Yzerman says,

Yzerman agrees with the consensus among analysts that this is a deep draft.

“Ultimately, draft classes seem to be measured, good or bad, basically on how good is it at the top and this year looks very good at the top,” he said. “As we go through our meetings and talk about the players and create your list, we sit down at the end of it and say we’re optimistic at pick 43 we’re going to get one of this group of players. Third-round picks and things like that we say, ‘We’d be happy to get this player.’ Today, it looks like a pretty good draft. Time will tell. We feel good about not only having those three seconds, but our third-round pick and beyond that.”

 

[theunsunghero]

Give it a rest already. No one is engaging in this yet it keeps being brought back up again.

What do the mods do around here?

Will do,

Thank you our hero

 

[bert]

This seems in contrast with what Yzerman says,

They are polar opposites in every single way. So that shouldnt be a surprise.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

No QO for Comtois

 

[BUCKLE UP]

Woof the Hayes trade

 

[Sun God Nika]

Thats a bad trade by rookie GM Danny Brierre.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Woof the Hayes trade

Haha, holy crap. 3.5 million is what he should be being paid, so good for St.Louis.

 

[Emerica]

His contract is bad but damn, even at 50% retained he only returned a 6th?

Edit: A 2024 6th at that