Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part VII: Shake Up

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Statsny will get over paid somewhere else, trade Brassard and DZ as a package for that 1B center. Look to acquire d-men someway. The d-men currently in our system that should be on the team are McD, Moore, Stralman, and McI. Use cally and Girardi as trade bait

I would honestly give Allen a shot on D. Maybe even over Moore. I really like his mobility, and he's always, always an active skater. Guy is all over the ice in a good way. Reminds me of Andy Greene. He's got a nice offensive skillset, too.
 
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Trade MDZ + Brassard for Yakupov + prospect/pick

Trade Callahan at the deadline to STL for Berglund +

Trade Girardi to TB at the deadline for picks/prospects


Trade Zuccarello to somewhere for picks/prospects

Trade Boyle to Montreal for a 2nd '14

Re-sign:

Stralman
4 year @ 3.2 million

Moore
1 year @ 1 million

Berglund (after he is acquired)
2 years @ 3.25 million


Sign:
Phaneuf
7 years @ 7.5 million

Bollig
2 years @ 1 million

Cammalleri
4 years @ 5.25 million

id love Bollig but i bet he stays on the Hawks..

no way i Phaneuf for 7 years.... 3 years tops..

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=8952 if Callahan goes to the Blues...Dmitrij Jaskin better come back in the deal..


 
I would honestly give Allen a shot on D. Maybe even over Moore. I really like his mobility, and he's always, always an active skater. Guy is all over the ice in a good way. Reminds me of Andy Greene. He's got a nice offensive skillset, too.

Well by my plan there are slots on both sides so I would be fine with giving him a shot as well. What side does he play? And for the other side we could even use Sjkei depending on how his development is going but I'm sure he will need more time
 
Well by my plan there are slots on both sides so I would be fine with giving him a shot as well. What side does he play? And for the other side we could even use Sjkei depending on how his development is going but I'm sure he will need more time

He's lefty but I believe he plays both sides, mainly right
 
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Kesler is 8th in the league in goal scoring. What the hell are you talking about "underwhelming"?

Read an article a few weeks back saying he was struggling with Torts' system and the Canucks might be looking to get rid of him while they still could. I took that to mean he wasn't producing. I didn't take the time to look at his stats.
 
I've been a huge Kesler fan for a while.

Question is how will his body hold up, and what type of king's ransom would it take to land him. Even if he is struggling I would imagine Torts loves the guy.

Ultimately, pipe dream. Not a bad dream though. Would provide a bomb on the PP.
 
Not the majority of the time when I watch.

Maybe you are watching the wrong guy then.

Because he has played almost all RD, at least for the past month or two.

Both when he was on the first line with Johnson (who is a LD) and now across from Syvret who is also a LD

Mcilrath was playing across from Johnson the past couple games
 
I've been a huge Kesler fan for a while.

Question is how will his body hold up, and what type of king's ransom would it take to land him. Even if he is struggling I would imagine Torts loves the guy.

Ultimately, pipe dream. Not a bad dream though. Would provide a bomb on the PP.

would love to get kesler, what do u think it'd take? Brass, Girardi a 2nd +

despite his Ufa status i think Girardi would be an enticing trade option for Vancouver given his success with torts...
 
Options? You mean your options which includes getting rid of everyone.

Marc Staal traded again...shocking. And for Ryan Murphy...laughable. Oh and their 1st round pick. Staal sustained another injury near the end the other night and they are going to hand us their best prospect? And if Staal is ok they can't afford to lose him if they deal one of or both MDZ and Girardi.

Why are we trading Brassard? He will get a qualifying offer. He won't cost as much for the short term so we can have center depth until Lindberg/Miller are fully developed.

Trade Girardi.
Consider trading Callahan.
Move Pyatt and/or Pouliot if you can.

I'm starting to wonder if you have split personalities. Just 2 weeks ago you were arguing about how Girardi wasn't regressing with me... possibly until you were blue in the face. Now you're saying trade him?

1) Staal will absolutely command their top prospect and top draft pick. Jordan, the least dominant of the Staal brothers got a sizeable package himself. Did Pronger's concussion problems really diminish his value? No. Staal is going to command a lot on the trade market, barring some retirement induced by this concussion. Nothing you say is going to convince me otherwise... because it's illogical to think otherwise. Concussions are an inevitable part of any sport - medical research shows that concussion proneness isn't affected by previous concussions. It's not like the Rangers would be trying to pass along a vegetable. Concussions are a risk with even the healthiest of players. This isn't going to significantly reduce his trade value. It's not his 10th concussion in 3 years.
2) I'm more and more under the impression that this core group of guys isn't going to cut it. We made the SCF a couple years ago... we were taken to 7 games by two "worse teams" and were dominated by a team that was absolutely owned in the finals.
3) Brassard isn't going to cut it on this team. He needs to go. So does Del Zotto. Girardi won't be resigned because the organization likely feels his best days are far behind him. He doesn't fit this system. Will they trade him for assets? No. Sather is delusional enough to think we'll win it all this year. He rarely sets his teams up for the future mid season - he deals with those problems during the offseason.
4) You want to know why this core isn't going to cut it? Because we added way too many players that were on losing teams. Nash, Brassard, Dorsett, Pyatt, Pouloit, Moore, Falk.... they're used to losing. They bring that mentality into the locker room. Maybe it's not intentional but they do it because they simply don't know what it takes to take the next step, mentally and/or physically. And we added these players to a core that never won anything themselves. The only player to go to the SCF on this team (unless i'm marginally mistaken... i.e maybe one more player fits this criteria) was Brad Richards. We needed to help Cally, Dubi, Anisimov, Staal, etc. out by adding vets that knew what it took. We added a bunch of players with losing mentality.

Uproot the problems. Sometimes you need to sacrifice for the betterment of the team.

1) Don't cripple the team moving forward by extending a regressing Girardi.
2) Set up the future by trading your best asset. Staal is our best asset, slightly concussed right now or not. Get youth. Build for the future.
3) MDZ and Brassard should be able to yield a top 6 player. We have a glaring need there. Both are expendable. AV doesn't particularly like either. Get someone that fits the mold of the coach. Not someone that fits the mold that you, the fan, likes. My suggestion for Kessler was based on 1) a misconception and 2) just a general rule of thumb. If you have a player or two that need a change of scenery, it would make sense to trade for another player (equating to equal value) that also needs a change of scenery. I was under the false assumption that Kessler was in need of a change of scenery. He's also been on a team with a winning mentality that would help the core get to the next level.
 
I don't think Kesler would be available. However, a player like him would be a solid addition to this team. I don't mean "the 8th leading goal scorer in the league" would be a solid addition, I mean this team could use a power center. A guy who can drive the net and create space for Zuccarello on the wing.
 
I would honestly give Allen a shot on D. Maybe even over Moore. I really like his mobility, and he's always, always an active skater. Guy is all over the ice in a good way. Reminds me of Andy Greene. He's got a nice offensive skillset, too.


Whats so special about Allen?
 
1) Don't cripple the team moving forward by extending a regressing Girardi.
2) Set up the future by trading your best asset. Staal is our best asset, slightly concussed right now or not. Get youth. Build for the future.
3) MDZ and Brassard should be able to yield a top 6 player. We have a glaring need there. Both are expendable. AV doesn't particularly like either. Get someone that fits the mold of the coach. Not someone that fits the mold that you, the fan, likes. My suggestion for Kessler was based on 1) a misconception and 2) just a general rule of thumb. If you have a player or two that need a change of scenery, it would make sense to trade for another player (equating to equal value) that also needs a change of scenery. I was under the false assumption that Kessler was in need of a change of scenery. He's also been on a team with a winning mentality that would help the core get to the next level.

Any idea that does not involve getting rid of Callahan is a smart idea. I really don't understand people's problem with Cally. He is tied for 2nd in goals scored, was recovering from an injury, got hurt again, he still is blocking shots, creating plays, making hits, killing penalties, and etc. The guy deserves a little slack especially from rabid fans who demand he gets traded. Half this team would be traded before they should even consider trading him.

Look at his GPG over this season and the last 3 seasons. It's very good, and you DON'T want to give that up.

Plus, he has had 4 points in the last 6 games, including a clutch goal. So he is coming around offensively. I'm just confused by the outrage on callahan who is really fighting through some kind of injury.

He deserves an extension, However, need to keep it under control. No more than 5 or 6 years and no more than 5.5 million, imho.
 
Whats so special about Allen?

Hes solid all around. Nothing special, but hes a well rounded player. I think he would struggle quite a bit if he was moved up now though. Think he needs some more time.

I do think he is a future 2nd or 3rd pairing RD.
 
Any idea that does not involve getting rid of Callahan is a smart idea. I really don't understand people's problem with Cally. He is tied for 2nd in goals scored, was recovering from an injury, got hurt again, he still is blocking shots, creating plays, making hits, killing penalties, and etc. The guy deserves a little slack especially from rabid fans who demand he gets traded. Half this team would be traded before it even gets to a consideration of him.

Look at his GPG over this season and the last 3 seasons. It's very good, and you DON'T want to give that up.

Plus, he has had 4 points in the last 6 games, including a clutch goal. I'm just confused by the outrage on callahan who is really fighting through some kind of injury.

He deserves an extension, no more than 5 or 6 years and no more than 5.5 million, imho.


5.5 mil for Callahan? He isnt a good fit in this system obviously. If injuries are bothering him then he shouldnt be playing. He is hurting the team if he is playing injured. You wouldnt trade Callahan for a 1st rounder?
 
Hes solid all around. Nothing special, but hes a well rounded player. I think he would struggle quite a bit if he was moved up now though. Think he needs some more time.

I do think he is a future 2nd or 3rd pairing RD.


Eh, i think he is overrated around here
 
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