Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part VII: Shake Up

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I don't know if I should point out that you're asking for them to emulate the Islanders or that there's no one in Hartford like Strome...

that the Rangers should do what the Islanders did and waive their crap, like Rangers should waive Pyatt and Pouliot but we know that wont happen :rant: waste of contract
 
A former first round pick who has struggled for a long time.

Perfect. He'll fit right in with PooPoo, Boyle, Pyatt, and John Moore.

Jury's still out on John Moore, but that's another discussion.

Boyle is what he is, a good 4th liner that steps it up in big games.

Pyatt and Pouliot hustle, but they're garbage.
 
How do propose upgrading this team knowing full well we have only one top 3 forwards and a small handful of
Legit 2nd liners? You can say drafting but there's not many sure things where the rangers finish.

Past mistakes shouldn't prevent further FA contracts if they are the right players.

We shouldn't sign Thorton because of decisions made by Gorton how many years ago???
Do we have a Bergernon in the wngs???

What's your plan? I want to read it?

Can you define "right" players?
 
Jury's still out on John Moore, but that's another discussion.

Boyle is what he is, a good 4th liner that steps it up in big games.

Pyatt and Pouliot hustle, but they're garbage.

i see Pyatt hustling but he is just slow.... Pouliot is just lazy... :shakehead:(:help:
 
More free agency? Please stop. There hasn't been enough damage done to this franchise because of bad free agent contracts. Lets go get some more. That's the Yankee philosophy. They look at the free agent market to figure out who will be playing on their team next season. No real plan.

No more big ticket free agents. Have the patience to develop your own.
Sad to say but it's true, the quickest way to appear to solve a problem is through FA regardless of the cost down the line. Instant gratification.

By the way, 3 or 4 game winning streak and the rangers are back to being world beaters again.
We need to build around "Bergeron". They singled him out in that piece, but we don't have to mirror that.

I ways thought that Cally, Girardi, McD, Staal, Stepan and co had that.

It's important to remember that Boston built on UFAs too. Chara. Savard. And a few others.

It also takes time. Look how long Boston has built in the "right" direction. A blueline that moves the puck exceptionally well. Forwards that can play a 2-way game. PFs. snipers. They can beat you in many ways.

We just must do a better job than them. There are no shortcuts or quick fixes.

Our team as a whole is not terrible flawed. We have some stuff they don't. But we miss 3-4 pieces. PMD. PF. Sniper. Depth size. A spot or two could be upgraded.

But no matter what, Boston has built in the right direction for 8 years. We have done it since October. We MUST catch up in that department too. We wouldn't do it by tearing this apart either.
I agree with the needs, how do you get them is the 64K question.
 
Lol how could I forget?

Rangers are going for a world record in amount of **** first round picks on their roster.

Beach is 23 so he still has a chance. i can see Rangers giving him a look next time Rangers play Flyers. with Vinny LeCavalier out they just called up gritty winger Tye McGinn
 
I maintain that if the Rangers can add a veteran RHD, and somehow find a way to make their fourth line:

Boyle - Moore - Dorsett

That this team can make a deep run in the playoffs.

We need to add a 2C, and a vet RHD. That's it.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Richards - 2C - Zuccarello
Hagelin - Brassard - Callahan
Boyle - Moore - Dorsett

McDonagh - G
Staal - Stralman
Moore - Vet RHD

Who do we give up?

Draft picks. Middling/good prospects. Michael Del Zotto. Taylor Pyatt and or Benoit Pouliot.

Adding those two pieces makes our lineup completely different. It's not dead weight anymore, but it's true depth. Cally at 3RW, Boyle on the 4th line where he belongs. JT Miller not playing top-9 minutes he can't handle. Hagelin on the third line (could swap him with Richie, also).

Buy-out Richie. Let one of G or Callahan walk after next season. Trade their FA rights at the draft for an extra pick or a prospect.

Boom, Sather'd.
 
at this point i think we need someone in the east to make a move to kick off some trades, alot of teams out there struggling that could use a change someone has to make the first move

about the only good thing about staal being out is del zotto gets himself some time in the top 4 on the RIGHT side, if he can string some good games together, get his value up we can move him after the holiday trade freeze.
 
lets face it smart thing would be to move one of them for max return, but...

slats isnt going to move girardi or callahan or staal..

they are his babys that kicked off the youth momement.. hate to say it but if they leave it will bc they are looking to cash in $$$$ by their own doing..

only center worth going for is Ott and Stasny..

Ott i dont think we need him, toughness is nice but we need a 2c.. i want to see brass more and give him a shot.. dudes played less then 15m the past 5 games.. he should be getting 2c to see if we can get him going and move brad to the wing..

if not stasny would be ideal.. COL has been screaming for dman and would make us a good trade partner.. MDZ, prospect, 2nd should get it done.. one of (pyatt, poo poo, asham, powe included as well) for stasny, Mcginn or mcloud.. would want to try and get barrie but big stretch to include that in this package without give something better up..
 
We aren't trading girardi. He's walking. I think staal is gone during the offseason as well.

With brassard and del zotto gone too, that means we will have roughly 45 mill in cap space.

Look for a big contract given to phaneuf to fill staals shoes. Trade staal for Ryan Murphy and the Carolina 1st.

Trade mdz and brass for someone underwhelming- Kessler in Vancouver? We need a 2c or a top 4 d in that trade.

We have options. Sather better not **** them up.
 
I think they should strip Callahan of the captaincy today. See if that wakes the team up.

So most of the team is playing worse than him, and he is loosing his C? :shakehead

He's tied for 2nd in goals, and is 5th in points among forwards, and missed a lot of games this season, plus had offensive time cutdown due to injuries.

If anything he is fighting through this with a likely lingering injury that is a true leader.

Look, I know we are all fustrated but Cally deserves some kinda slack from the injuries, and plus there is more than a half of dozen issues before even looking at Callahan.
 
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We aren't trading girardi. He's walking. I think staal is gone during the offseason as well.

With brassard and del zotto gone too, that means we will have roughly 45 mill in cap space.

Look for a big contract given to phaneuf to fill staals shoes. Trade staal for Ryan Murphy and the Carolina 1st.

Trade mdz and brass for someone underwhelming- Kessler in Vancouver? We need a 2c or a top 4 d in that trade.

We have options. Sather better not **** them up.

Options? You mean your options which includes getting rid of everyone.

Marc Staal traded again...shocking. And for Ryan Murphy...laughable. Oh and their 1st round pick. Staal sustained another injury near the end the other night and they are going to hand us their best prospect? And if Staal is ok they can't afford to lose him if they deal one of or both MDZ and Girardi.

Why are we trading Brassard? He will get a qualifying offer. He won't cost as much for the short term so we can have center depth until Lindberg/Miller are fully developed.

Trade Girardi.
Consider trading Callahan.
Move Pyatt and/or Pouliot if you can.
 
We aren't trading girardi. He's walking. I think staal is gone during the offseason as well.

With brassard and del zotto gone too, that means we will have roughly 45 mill in cap space.

Look for a big contract given to phaneuf to fill staals shoes. Trade staal for Ryan Murphy and the Carolina 1st.

Trade mdz and brass for someone underwhelming- Kessler in Vancouver? We need a 2c or a top 4 d in that trade.

We have options. Sather better not **** them up.

id love to get kessler.. dont think they will move him bc they will need a 2c..

MDZ, Brass, id even throw miller in for Kessler

if girardi walks, haha forsure slats will try and make a go for Phaneuf thats a guarantee and here is redden 2.0.. at least maybe he'll concuss our opponents.. but yeah its kinda exciting because our team could be so different next year, but hopefully improved.. time will tell..

if i had to move anyone it would staal, callahan, girardi in that order, but all three are here for long haul my honest opinion
 
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Trade MDZ + Brassard for Yakupov + prospect/pick

Trade Callahan at the deadline to STL for Berglund +

Trade Girardi to TB at the deadline for picks/prospects

Trade Zuccarello to somewhere for picks/prospects

Trade Boyle to Montreal for a 2nd '14

Re-sign:

Stralman
4 year @ 3.2 million

Moore
1 year @ 1 million

Berglund (after he is acquired)
2 years @ 3.25 million


Sign:
Phaneuf
7 years @ 7.5 million

Bollig
2 years @ 1 million

Cammalleri
4 years @ 5.25 million


Still no legit #1 center.
 
Still no legit #1 center.

This team will not have a legit #1 center. You need to draft (very) high to get a player like that. Only way the Rangers get a player like that is through free agency or to give up serious assets in a trade. Thornton or Grabovski are really the only 2 options for a 1C via UFA. While Grabovski is debatable, if he keeps up his current pace there's not a doubt in my mind he would be a good 1C here with Nash and Kreider
 
True. I wouldnt mind Stastny in that case. Trade Brassard for something else. I say keep DZ
 
We aren't trading girardi. He's walking. I think staal is gone during the offseason as well.

With brassard and del zotto gone too, that means we will have roughly 45 mill in cap space.

Look for a big contract given to phaneuf to fill staals shoes. Trade staal for Ryan Murphy and the Carolina 1st.

Trade mdz and brass for someone underwhelming- Kessler in Vancouver? We need a 2c or a top 4 d in that trade.

We have options. Sather better not **** them up.

options as in strip the team down and bask in the cap space we get for it, how has that worked out for us in the past?:shakehead

amazing how quickly people flip flop what they want this team to do, when the vets don't produce everyone wants to trade them away and grow with youth, when the youth doesn't produce everyone wants to solve our problems via free agency, which would inevitably start the cycle back at vets aging and not producing.
 
True. I wouldnt mind Stastny in that case. Trade Brassard for something else. I say keep DZ

Statsny will get over paid somewhere else, trade Brassard and DZ as a package for that 1B center. Look to acquire d-men someway. The d-men currently in our system that should be on the team are McD, Moore, Stralman, and McI. Use cally and Girardi as trade bait
 
We aren't trading girardi. He's walking. I think staal is gone during the offseason as well.

With brassard and del zotto gone too, that means we will have roughly 45 mill in cap space.

Look for a big contract given to phaneuf to fill staals shoes. Trade staal for Ryan Murphy and the Carolina 1st.

Trade mdz and brass for someone underwhelming- Kessler in Vancouver? We need a 2c or a top 4 d in that trade.

We have options. Sather better not **** them up.

Kesler is 8th in the league in goal scoring. What the hell are you talking about "underwhelming"?
 
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