Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part V: Zib-a-dabba-do

[Raspewtin]

Boyle has been rock solid this season, there's just no reason to trade him now, we need him.

Why do people insist on putting him in every trade proposal?

 

[Kwayry]

Nonsense? He is 23 years old and can't stick in the NHL. I don't want to hear about the logjam at defense in PHO. If he was that viable they'd move one of the older guys out. We're talking about trading MDZ in these threads who is also 23 years old. Why are we gona trade him for Rundblad? That's crazy. DZ has produced so much more already than him.

Good question, I think people prefer players who are better skaters, not necessarily better hockey players for some reason.

I like Rundblad, I have been trying to get him on this team since last season. But to say he is worth DZ is just lunacy

 

[Raspewtin]

Rundblad is absolutely not worth DZ. Rundblad + Samuelsson + 1st sounds more like it.

But, again, there's NO way Phoenix deals for Del Zotto.

 

[Kwayry]

Getting a young talented forward on and ELC would be more the way I'd like it to go. Gives us time and space later on. Kassian fits that mold--has size, mean and very good potential. Zibanejad fits as well. Most teams have players like that--they might not be fully developed but there is a lot of potential.

Let me get this straight. Kassian who will be 23 in January has very good potential, eventhough we have not seen anything from him yet.
On the other hand DZ at 23 has plateaued eventhough he has produced at the NHL level since he was 19?

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

Rundblad is absolutely not worth DZ. Rundblad + Samuelsson + 1st sounds more like it.

But, again, there's NO way Phoenix deals for Del Zotto.

id love Samuelsson.. especially since his dad is here.. Samuelsson is a solid prospect... reminds me a bit of Graves with his leadership..

 

[Raspewtin]

I would love Samuelsson as well, one of my favorite prospects. I don't see any situation where we get him unfortunately.

 

[Ola]

Nonsense? He is 23 years old and can't stick in the NHL. I don't want to hear about the logjam at defense in PHO. If he was that viable they'd move one of the older guys out. We're talking about trading MDZ in these threads who is also 23 years old. Why are we gona trade him for Rundblad? That's crazy. DZ has produced so much more already than him.

Please stop making a fool of yourself.

You said that two teams has given up of him. That is nonsense. He was traded for Tarasenko and Turris, do you call that giving up on him?

I have never said that we should move Del Zotto for him. I proposed, very silly as always in these threads, that we should move him in a three way that gave us Rundblad and two 2nd round picks.

That opens up 1.5m of cap space this season and probably 2m next season and gives us two 2nd rounders.

Then you say PHX should move a guy to break the log jam. HE MADE PHX BLUELINE. It's PP time that he can't get. Who should they move, Yandle or OEL? Do we have one forward that has scored more than them this year?

Also, if you don't believe in Rundblad. Fine, you are entitled to your opinion. But you base that on him being 23. I bet that you never have seen him play. 23 y/o is nothing. There are a ton of examples of Ds only starting to contribute when they are 25-27.

I don't get why you attack posters with out doing any research and then make up a bunch of things.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

Boyle has been rock solid this season, there's just no reason to trade him now, we need him.

Why do people insist on putting him in every trade proposal?

Yup. He's playing like what everyone around here so desperately wants. A good 4th liner. The guy is one of the few who manages to score in the post season too. I'd very much like to keep Boyle.

 

[Raspewtin]

Yup. He's playing like whatever around here so desperately wants. A good 4th liner. The guy is one of the few who manages to score in the post season too. I'd very much like to keep Boyle.

Booby pls. He doesn't have 20 goals or 100 PMs he's useless trade him.

But really what more do we want from him? I don't understand.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I've been a Boyle critic but I like him on the 4th line.

 

[Dorado*]

BuyRon BOY PLs .
Byron been solid , at the deadline however when some top teams out west perhaps have some injuries and are willing to overpay for him .... By by. Byron .
I'd want NHL ready cheap asset with size and speed ploose

 

[eco's bones]

BuyRon BOY PLs .
Byron been solid , at the deadline however when some top teams out west perhaps have some injuries and are willing to overpay for him .... By by. Byron .
I'd want NHL ready cheap asset with size and speed ploose
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If the Rangers seem headed for the playoffs it's very unlikely they'll looking to move Boyle at the deadline.

 

[Dorado*]

If the Rangers seem headed for the playoffs it's very unlikely they'll looking to move Boyle at the deadline.

I sadly agree . Which is why NY will be a perennial also ran . Failure to manage assets well and re stock .
While the " anyone " can win it all thing may be a regular cliche league wide it's not the best one to run your franchise by , which is exactly what NYR do year end and year out .
If a Chicago or San Jose or LA have some injuries and will overpay with a top prospect to sure up their play off chances playoffs or not NYR should be considering selling UFAs .

 

[Alluckks]

Why haven't we traded Del Zotto for Tlusty yet?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I sadly agree . Which is why NY will be a perennial also ran . Failure to manage assets well and re stock .
While the " anyone " can win it all thing may be a regular cliche league wide it's not the best one to run your franchise by , which is exactly what NYR do year end and year out .
If a Chicago or San Jose or LA have some injuries and will overpay with a top prospect to sure up their play off chances playoffs or not NYR should be considering selling UFAs .

Why would trading Boyle if we are in the playoff race be a "failure to manage assets well?" That makes no sense.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

Why would trading Boyle if we are in the playoff race be a "failure to manage assets well?" That makes no sense.

explain that to the Sharks management.. they didnt have a problem when they dealt Clowe and Murray during their playoff race and it did not hurt them at all.

 

[LetterJ]

explain that to the Sharks management.. they didnt have a problem when they dealt Clowe and Murray during their playoff race and it did not hurt them at all.

Sharks won it all last year, did they??

 

[Dorado*]

Because when and if he pulls a Prust and we fail to pay him what another team does we lose him . Oscar Lindbergh projects to eventually be the 3-4 Defensive FO specialist center . Cal management to me means having players that can play the same roles on good cheap contracts saving money and space for real needs like Scoring wingers / and or a center with some size and snarl and scoring or a PMD .

 

[Dorado*]

Younger
Faster
Cheaper
Bigger . Out of those 4 all BB has is big . I really like Boyle but if we can phase one of our prospects into his role and fleece a team ready to win now with better odds then NYR I'm all in

 

[Hunter Gathers]

explain that to the Sharks management.. they didnt have a problem when they dealt Clowe and Murray during their playoff race and it did not hurt them at all.

And how did they do in the playoffs? I forget.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Because when and if he pulls a Prust and we fail to pay him what another team does we lose him . Oscar Lindbergh projects to eventually be the 3-4 Defensive FO specialist center . Cal management to me means having players that can play the same roles on good cheap contracts saving money and space for real needs like Scoring wingers / and or a center with some size and snarl and scoring or a PMD .

You have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you don't move Boyle if he is playing like this and we are in the playoff hunt. That would be moronic.

 

[RGY]

Please stop making a fool of yourself.

You said that two teams has given up of him. That is nonsense. He was traded for Tarasenko and Turris, do you call that giving up on him?

I have never said that we should move Del Zotto for him. I proposed, very silly as always in these threads, that we should move him in a three way that gave us Rundblad and two 2nd round picks.

That opens up 1.5m of cap space this season and probably 2m next season and gives us two 2nd rounders.

Then you say PHX should move a guy to break the log jam. HE MADE PHX BLUELINE. It's PP time that he can't get. Who should they move, Yandle or OEL? Do we have one forward that has scored more than them this year?

Also, if you don't believe in Rundblad. Fine, you are entitled to your opinion. But you base that on him being 23. I bet that you never have seen him play. 23 y/o is nothing. There are a ton of examples of Ds only starting to contribute when they are 25-27.

I don't get why you attack posters with out doing any research and then make up a bunch of things.

Ola, what in the world are you talking about?? I responded to your post which was a response to someone else's. Don't put words in my mouth, i didn't say half the things you just did. Nor did I "attack" you because I simply defended another member's post that YOU called "nonsense." Maybe you are blinded by some love for Rundblad that you just responded incensed.

And I did my research...numbers and facts don't lie. He hasn't produced. He has been up and down between the NHL and AHL. And I have seen him play. DZ has produced since he was 19. These aren't power forwards that normally take longer to develop. How much longer do we wait for Rundblad? Nice player, but I'd rather have a more proven DZ who is on a good cap hit.

Relax.

 

[Dorado*]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you don't move Boyle if he is playing like this and we are in the playoff hunt. That would be moronic.

So at the deadline NYR are what they project to be an on the bubble team selling a UFA like BOYle is Moronic ? I thought the goal was to win the Stanley cup eventually not just " make the playoffs win one round .

 

[RGY]

So at the deadline NYR are what they project to be an on the bubble team selling a UFA like BOYle is Moronic ? I thought the goal was to win the Stanley cup eventually not just " make the playoffs win one round .

Who is saying they will be a bubble team? You from your couch? Great insight. The Rangers are going to be a top team in the East this year. The East is too weak. They lost 2-1 to the Bruins, another top team. Nash's first game back. So yes at this point it would be silly to trade Boyle. Lindberg is not ready either.

 

[Dorado*]

NY played great against Bruins but let's look at the big picture . bruins played the night before and lost Seidenburg in the first period so played the rest of the game with 5 .
Also " NY is going to be a top team in the east " where are you seeing that from your couch . I see a 500 club that is 27 th in the league in scoring . I'm well aware of the dreadful start but to think that NY as is , is built to win now IMO is delusional .