Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part V: Zib-a-dabba-do

[KingWantsCup]

MDZ straight up for Drouin?

 

[Trxjw]

Meh on Tlusty. I'm leery of guys who are "finishers" but put up lousy numbers because the team isn't scoring as whole. Seems like Carolina is trying to dangle Tlusty in attempt to sucker someone into taking Ruutu. Even if they retain 50% of his deal, I'm not really that interested in it.

If it's Tlusty+ for MDZ, I'd expect a pretty nice add in that deal. Unfortunately, I don't have a ton of interest in the Canes' prospect pool outside of the guys they probably wouldn't want to trade.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I thought Zac Dalpe was going to be a top 6 player.

Speaking of Carolina prospects noone wants.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

how about Del Zotto and St.Croix to Canes for Elias Lindholm, Brock McGinn (younger brother of Jamie of Avs), Brett Bellemore??

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Backlund interests me. Calgary would have to add for sure, maybe Glencross ? I know he's hurt now. If we threw in Poo and Pyatt ? Not sure on salaries.
Just to the point now where I think DZ almost has to be moved, both parties will be better off short and long term.

Throw in Bourque and a second and it can probably get done

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

i hope Rangers can trade Pouliot and Pyatt already. i dont see why Marek Hrivik didnt make this team. he didnt look out of place during preseason.. he was noticeable..

 

[Savant]

i hope Rangers can trade Pouliot and Pyatt already. i dont see why Marek Hrivik didnt make this team. he didnt look out of place during preseason.. he was noticeable..

After watching the Stars games, I am ready to cut bait on most on the bottom six. They were just too slow to keep up with Dallas for most of the game. I feel the bottom six need to evolve a bit with the help with some of the AHL guys to add some needed dynamism.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

i hope Rangers can trade Pouliot and Pyatt already. i dont see why Marek Hrivik didnt make this team. he didnt look out of place during preseason.. he was noticeable..

I see these two names mentioned a lot in these threads. What could we possibly get for them?

 

[Vitto79]

After watching the Stars games, I am ready to cut bait on most on the bottom six. They were just too slow to keep up with Dallas for most of the game. I feel the bottom six need to evolve a bit with the help with some of the AHL guys to add some needed dynamism.

Lol well I'm sure the team disagrees. You know you are saying hagelin and brassard are slow right? I imagine you view the stepan and Richards lines as 1 an 2 . Also the Boyle, Moore, Dorsett line is a solid defensive line. If anything I think the teams rather deep right now

I'm scarred when Pyatt comes in for pouliott as they are both blah. Thing is miller and other kids need more time to develop in the minors so they will have to stick w those 2 unless a trade is made

 

[Vitto79]

I see these two names mentioned a lot in these threads. What could we possibly get for them?

Nothing to be honest lets just be thankfull they are ufas at seasons end. Atleast pouliott has the potential to score . Pyatt only is good at grinding in the corners . Since they are ufa they may be able to throw a contract in a del zotto deal for cap purposes but that's about it when it comes to value

 

[Savant]

Lol well I'm sure the team disagrees. You know you are saying hagelin and brassard are slow right? I imagine you view the stepan and Richards lines as 1 an 2 . Also the Boyle, Moore, Dorsett line is a solid defensive line. If anything I think the teams rather deep right now

I'm scarred when Pyatt comes in for pouliott as they are both blah. Thing is miller and other kids need more time to develop in the minors so they will have to stick w those 2 unless a trade is made

I said most of the bottom six. Hagelin and Brassard are 2/6. Are you saying that the Rangers were able to keep up with the Stars speed wise? My point was it was clear to me who was beating who to the puck most of the game.

When Pyatt comes back, AV will put him back in and further slow things down. I would prefer if the team got faster and not slower. Versus Dallas was a lot of bending not breaking and if Hank didn't stand on his head it would have gotten ugly.

 

[Vitto79]

I said most of the bottom six. Hagelin and Brassard are 2/6. Are you saying that the Rangers were able to keep up with the Stars speed wise? My point was it was clear to me who was beating who to the puck most of the game.

When Pyatt comes back, AV will put him back in and further slow things down. I would prefer if the team got faster and not slower. Versus Dallas was a lot of bending not breaking and if Hank didn't stand on his head it would have gotten ugly.

And the same group dominated Boston and lost. It happens, it was also mainly one bad period vs Dallas as the team was better the second half of the game . So if brassard and hagelin are top 6 . Btw I agree they both go no where then who does go? Richards , Nash , Callahan, stepan, kreider, zuccarello? I don't see that happening

Moore , Boyle are on the pk and Dorsett while taking stupid penalties is the only one w balls.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Ruutu rumor isn't new. Adrian Dater reported Ruutu is available when the Canes played in Colorado 10-14 days ago. It was posted here. Good luck with that contract and player. Tlusty is another inconsistent player. The Rangers have enough of those. The Rangers aren't giving up Del Zotto to a division team for crumbs. Tlusty will be a group II this summer and he is one year away from group III. The Rangers don't need more players like him. Another middling player.

 

[Ola]

MDZ for Havlat and a 2nd round pick.

Havlat for Rundblad and a 2nd round pick.

Makes too much sense...

 

[Vitto79]

MDZ for Havlat and a 2nd round pick.

Havlat for Rundblad and a 2nd round pick.

Makes too much sense...

As I mentioned havlat would if even bought out uf he wasn't hurt . He stinks now

 

[Fitzy]

The Ruutu rumor isn't new. Adrian Dater reported Ruutu is available when the Canes played in Colorado 10-14 days ago. It was posted here. Good luck with that contract and player. Tlusty is another inconsistent player. The Rangers have enough of those. The Rangers aren't giving up Del Zotto to a division team for crumbs. Tlusty will be a group II this summer and he is one year away from group III. The Rangers don't need more players like him. Another middling player.

Then again, you have made points in the past that NYR are not just one big time acquisition away from a cup either, and have condemned searching free agency to fill big holes. So what, exactly, would you have the Rangers trade Del Zotto for? Prospects?

 

[RangerBoy]

So many trades involving D. Whitney for Kunitz. The Goligoski trade. Burns. Schenn. Even Quincey brought back a mid first rounder. The deadline isn't until March. If the deal is not there,wait until the draft.

 

[NYR Viper]

Ugh please no Tlusty. One hit wonder. He is no where as good as his stats showed last year.

 

[eco's bones]

Pyatt comes back and I imagine Miller will go down to Hartford.

Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello
Nash-Richards-Callahan
Pouliot/Boyle-Brassard-Hagelin
Boyle/Pouliot-Moore-Dorsett
Pyatt

Most likely to come out of the lineup for Pyatt is Pouliot. Defense sorts out like this:

McDonagh-Girardi
Staal-Stralman
Moore-Del Zotto
Falk

I don't see that changing. Unless there is an injury to either McDonagh or Staal MDZ is not going to get premium ice time on the left side which is his best chance to shine. Even if there were an injury Moore might move up the food chain ahead of him. Both Moore and Del Zotto RFA's at the end of the current season. Moore working off of a two way ELC that pays him 965K and Del Zotto a one way of 2,550 mil is arbitration eligible. Moore has much better size and wheels and DZ having more real NHL experience. Of all the players on the team not fitting an essential role DZ has the most value on the trade market.

To Hartford's forwards:

Most ready would be Miller. Then there's Fast who is injured. Kristo would seem next. At least he's showing he can score. All reports his defense needs work. Lindberg seems to be in an adjustment/acclimitization stage between the SEL and the smaller North American rinks. His numbers aren't bad. He needs more time. Hrivik is having a so-so start. Mashinter, Haley, Yogan all seem to fit into bottom line roles. More or less injury call ups if you need gritty, defensive oriented forwards.

Defense--McIlrath's making progress as is Allen. Both probably need more time. Johnson has quite a bit of NHL experience. A good bottom pairing emergency insurance policy. Bickel and Syvret--two other insurance policies with NHL experience.

If the Rangers were to move Del Zotto and not get a defenseman back they could adequately fill in his position. There is Falk who has shown he can play the right side. McIlrath could also get a look. If there is an injury on the left side--there is Falk and Aaron Johnson. **** seems to be covered.

Rangers would need a young forward with some skills to fit into their top 9 at this point in his career. Someone mentioned Kassian the other day. I think Del Zotto should get us Kassian +. Zack has talent. With luck he could turn into a Lucic type. He can play has size and a lot of mean and he can fight which is something the Rangers organization lacks. He does not appear to be a developed player yet and he needs to play with more discipline. He's still very young--drafted the same year as Kreider. I prefer to go this way than with a guy like Tlusty who is an inconsistent scorer and not very helpful when he's not scoring.

 

[NYR Viper]

Pyatt comes back and I imagine Miller will go down to Hartford.

Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello
Nash-Richards-Callahan
Pouliot/Boyle-Brassard-Hagelin
Boyle/Pouliot-Moore-Dorsett
Pyatt

Most likely to come out of the lineup for Pyatt is Pouliot. Defense sorts out like this:

McDonagh-Girardi
Staal-Stralman
Moore-Del Zotto
Falk

I don't see that changing. Unless there is an injury to either McDonagh or Staal MDZ is not going to get premium ice time on the left side which is his best chance to shine. Even if there were an injury Moore might move up the food chain ahead of him. Both Moore and Del Zotto RFA's at the end of the current season. Moore working off of a two way ELC that pays him 965K and Del Zotto a one way of 2,550 mil is arbitration eligible. Moore has much better size and wheels and DZ having more real NHL experience. Of all the players on the team not fitting an essential role DZ has the most value on the trade market.

To Hartford's forwards:

Most ready would be Miller. Then there's Fast who is injured. Kristo would seem next. At least he's showing he can score. All reports his defense needs work. Lindberg seems to be in an adjustment/acclimitization stage between the SEL and the smaller North American rinks. His numbers aren't bad. He needs more time. Hrivik is having a so-so start. Mashinter, Haley, Yogan all seem to fit into bottom line roles. More or less injury call ups if you need gritty, defensive oriented forwards.

Defense--McIlrath's making progress as is Allen. Both probably need more time. Johnson has quite a bit of NHL experience. A good bottom pairing emergency insurance policy. Bickel and Syvret--two other insurance policies with NHL experience.

If the Rangers were to move Del Zotto and not get a defenseman back they could adequately fill in his position. There is Falk who has shown he can play the right side. McIlrath could also get a look. If there is an injury on the left side--there is Falk and Aaron Johnson.

Conner Allen has looked good in Hartford as well.

I still think the premise of the deal needs to bea you g forward with size + prospect d-man

 

[Fitzy]

Ugh please no Tlusty. One hit wonder. He is no where as good as his stats showed last year.

Even if he isn't, as a speedy PKer he really shores up our LW side.

Kreider, Hagelin, Tlusty gives every line a burner on the outside.

Not saying Del Zotto for Tlusty would be a good one for one, but he is a useful player even if he is only a 15 goal scorer rather than a 30 goal guy.

 

[Savant]

MDZ for Havlat and a 2nd round pick.

Havlat for Rundblad and a 2nd round pick.

Makes too much sense...

Why do the Rangers want Rundblad again? Horrendously overrated and two teams have already bailed on him. If the third team trades him, then thats is a huge red flag especially because no system makes dmen look better than Tippett's.

 

[Championship*]

Then again, you have made points in the past that NYR are not just one big time acquisition away from a cup either, and have condemned searching free agency to fill big holes. So what, exactly, would you have the Rangers trade Del Zotto for? Prospects?

Young NHL player on ELC or second contract. Thought that was obvious.

 

[eco's bones]

Getting a young talented forward on and ELC would be more the way I'd like it to go. Gives us time and space later on. Kassian fits that mold--has size, mean and very good potential. Zibanejad fits as well. Most teams have players like that--they might not be fully developed but there is a lot of potential.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Teams that keep popping up for MDZ are Ottawa and Philly. How about:

1. MDZ / Boyle / Bourque for Michalek / Gryba or Corvo / Ahl goalie or

2. MDZ / Boyle / throw in for Schenn brothers and Ahl goalie

I actaully like Boyle but need to make the value and cap work. We wont misd quality dip on 4th line i believe if we have to insert Powe/Asham/Pyatt. Pouliot sits until he gets off the moon.

1. Michalek is big can put up some points and is a FA meaning that he may not want to stay in Ott but may in NY. Gryba is young / big, plays on right and has some upside but kinda like a Falk. Corvo is a backfill with experience and can move puck, good for 12 min.

2. I like B Schenn, will be very nice player, can play on any line now depending on linemates. Is RFA next year but controllable. Brother is bigger issue at 3.6 next 3 years but at least he plays the right and gives the D a physical presence. Dont know how south his game has gone, Sather reclaimation project?

We can sweeten eithet deal with mid- level prospect or pick if need be.