Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part II (Mod warning post #861)

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I don't really believe the asking price for Yakupov is as steep as many around these parts like to think. Too many factors at play with the KHL and his coach-ability/defensive ability or there lack of.

I really do believe MDZ + pick/prospect will get it done
 
I doubt that. It'd probably be more along the lines of MDZ + 1st round pick + prospect. Unless they really, really like Del Zotto.
 
Getting back to the conversation from this morning.

When did Stamkos struggle?

http://espn.go.com/nhl/player/stats/_/id/5037/steven-stamkos

Boston had Seguin playing out of position. The kid is a natural center and Boston had him at right wing. Boston has two really good centers. In Seguin's rookie year,Claude Julien gave him a tough time about being a complete player. Dallas Eakins is trying to do the same thing. Boston got mad at Seguin for not playing well in the playoffs and they didn't like his off the ice lifestyle.




The only time I recall Stamkos struggling was in his 2nd season. Early on in the season he struggled a bit and then really picked up his game in December. That might've been around Barry Melrose time.


Then again I wouldn't really call it a struggle. More of a subpar play.
 
I really do believe MDZ + pick/prospect will get it done

I doubt that. It'd probably be more along the lines of MDZ + 1st round pick + prospect. Unless they really, really like Del Zotto.

I stand by the MDZ + Kristo + MSC package.

- They need defense and Howson has always liked MDZ. He can play LD - where he is a significantly better player - in Edmonton.

- Kristo is arguably the team's best prospect not playing in the NHL and plays the same position (RW) as the player being traded.

- MSC is a 2nd (3rd?) tier prospect, but has appeal as a long-term sleeper and has the Edmonton connection (played for the Oil Kings).
 
I wouldn't add much of value to MDZ for Yakupov. Then again I'm not really a fan of Yakupov.
 
So, Washington needs a LD.

Their fans seem to be willing to move Marcus Johansson.

Moore or MDZ for Johansson?

I love Johansson, but he's redundant. Another small play creator with no finish (1 goal, 11 assists). The Rangers need a sniper. Not even an elite one. Just someone who can beat the goalie 1-on-1.
 
Sather: "Hey Mac, so how much for that kid. Yakulov or whatever?"

MacTavish: "His name is Nail Yakupov and he is a former 1st overall draft pick with tons of potential."

Sather: "Yeah that's what I said, Radulov. But cool, 1st overall he sounds good he must have like 40 points so far this season. Leading your team. With all the points..."

MacTavish: "He has 3 points."

Sather: "THREE POINTS?! Jesus man, let me start packing Lundqvist's bags right now."

MacTavish: "...He's got a high ceiling and great skillset-"

Sather: "I'll give you Michael Del Zotto."

MacTavish: "He's worth way more than that and yo know it."

Sather: "..."

MacTavish: "Glen?"

Sather: "Yeah I'm here Mac, just can't hear you through all the goal horns Yakupov's setting off. I'll throw in a 3rd."

MacTavish: "I can't do tha-"

Sather: "Mac..."

MacTavish: "Fine."
 
If the Oilers are looking for good defensemen Philly and Carolina would not be the place I'd look to right away. OTOH I think DZ is a good player--but he's only average defensively and he's small and I don't think he's a guy who is going to do a whole hell of a lot to improve the Oilers D. OTOH again I'm not very impressed with Yakupov's pro career so far and he's only going to half ass compete for the Oilers it's time for him to grow up.
 
Sather: "Hey Mac, so how much for that kid. Yakulov or whatever?"

MacTavish: "His name is Nail Yakupov and he is a former 1st overall draft pick with tons of potential."

Sather: "Yeah that's what I said, Radulov. But cool, 1st overall he sounds good he must have like 40 points so far this season. Leading your team. With all the points..."

MacTavish: "He has 3 points."

Sather: "THREE POINTS?! Jesus man, let me start packing Lundqvist's bags right now."

MacTavish: "...He's got a high ceiling and great skillset-"

Sather: "I'll give you Michael Del Zotto."

MacTavish: "He's worth way more than that and yo know it."

Sather: "..."

MacTavish: "Glen?"

Sather: "Yeah I'm here Mac, just can't hear you through all the goal horns Yakupov's setting off. I'll throw in a 3rd."

MacTavish: "I can't do tha-"

Sather: "Mac..."

MacTavish: "Fine."

:laugh:

MocTovosh, pls
 
Sather: "Hey Mac, so how much for that kid. Yakulov or whatever?"

MacTavish: "His name is Nail Yakupov and he is a former 1st overall draft pick with tons of potential."

Sather: "Yeah that's what I said, Radulov. But cool, 1st overall he sounds good he must have like 40 points so far this season. Leading your team. With all the points..."

MacTavish: "He has 3 points."

Sather: "THREE POINTS?! Jesus man, let me start packing Lundqvist's bags right now."

MacTavish: "...He's got a high ceiling and great skillset-"

Sather: "I'll give you Michael Del Zotto."

MacTavish: "He's worth way more than that and yo know it."

Sather: "..."

MacTavish: "Glen?"

Sather: "Yeah I'm here Mac, just can't hear you through all the goal horns Yakupov's setting off. I'll throw in a 3rd."

MacTavish: "I can't do tha-"

Sather: "Mac..."

MacTavish: "Fine."
Switch some names around and by god I think we've finally unearthed the transcript of the Gomez trade
 
I stand by the MDZ + Kristo + MSC package.

- They need defense and Howson has always liked MDZ. He can play LD - where he is a significantly better player - in Edmonton.

- Kristo is arguably the team's best prospect not playing in the NHL and plays the same position (RW) as the player being traded.

- MSC is a 2nd (3rd?) tier prospect, but has appeal as a long-term sleeper and has the Edmonton connection (played for the Oil Kings).

Isn't MSC not even on Hartford? If we can pull that off id do that in a heartbeat
 
I love Johansson, but he's redundant. Another small play creator with no finish (1 goal, 11 assists). The Rangers need a sniper. Not even an elite one. Just someone who can beat the goalie 1-on-1.

The thing is, though, is that he is smarter than just about every forward we have. I think he'd be a hell of an asset for this team even if he isn't a pure goalscorer.
 
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