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RB has been a staple on this forum for years and is usually first in getting us the updates and information. I appreciate what he does. You don't have to always agree with him but you can be respectful about it.
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This was an unnecessary post...
RB has been a staple on this forum for years and is usually first in getting us the updates and information. I appreciate what he does. You don't have to always agree with him but you can be respectful about it.
BBKers
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Great source for news and updates
The best
Usually spot on in his analysis IMO
Has his lumps and we can disagree about some things consistently - but nobody is perfect
Hardly myself or anyone Else here either
I feel like he and I tend to disagree more than agree, and he may or may not have put me on the block list, but I do respect the information he provides and the analysis he includes.
That being said, I don't think there should be an uproar if there is a disagreement amongst posters. I've endured it. I'm sure you've endured it. Everyone who has an opinion is subject to 1) disagreements and 2) aggressive counters to those opinions. Not everyone has a rational and level headed approach to getting their point across. I think it's part of an online forum and I think having the 10 page discussion about how wrong it is (that is likely about to happen) is moot. It's going to keep happening. People are entitled to say what they want (at the moderators discretion).
Kocur Dill
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Staal skating in todays practice.
MDZ on block as we know.
Given all the variables I'd rather move Staal going forward, keep DZ, and find him a competant RD to play with even if we have to wait till the summer to do it.
But...Mac Pac for DZ is a dream come true return if this has any legs to it at all.
Discussing the rumor, not the source, it would be a great deal if the rangers could bring in MaxPac for either DZ or Girardi.
eco's bones
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Good summation of DZ's career. Personally he falls very short of being a legit pwp point man which is what the Rangers really needed him to become. His shot is average and not very accurate. He very rarely scores on the pwp so pk forwards can cheat with him all the time. It's just one more reason why McDonagh has more than less replaced him in that function.
I don't see the improvement. He's plateaued as a player as far as I'm concerned. He's not going to get much better offensively or defensively than he is right now and in the Rangers scheme of things--when all our D are healthy his role has been increasingly marginalized.
I don't think he is quite a disaster though. He's an NHL'er on any team in the league. He's prone to confidence issues and I don't think he has the necessary drive to really work at the things that are going to make him a better player. IMO just about the only thing that could possibly kickstart him to realizing more of his potential is a change of scenery.
eco's bones
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No way this would happen straight up. Rangers would have to add something significant.
Agreed, I just too wonder what the market is for him. Who could we get? Like a Hanzal? Nah.
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The bolded is exactly what Sather's job is based on. He's paid to determine which players are going to continue at their current level of production, which are going to improve and which are going to regress. He gets paid to know that certain players will do well with other players and fit in with the team philosophy and to target those players via trades and free agency.
He gets paid to have foresight. Hindsight is how we figure out if he got it right or wrong. So far, he's got a lot more wrong than he's gotten right.
RB is absolutely right that an evaluation has to be done on every player with regards to whether they can help this team more as a player in the future, or as a trade chip. My only contention with RB is that he's already made up his mind that MZA will regress and we should get what we can for him now. Really, how much could we get for him if we traded him today? A 2nd? Maybe another low pick? His value to this team outweighs his trade value at this point.
To me, selling high is what you do when/if a player unexpectedly has a career year far beyond expectations, or at certain stages in their career (age,contract) where their value may never be higher. Zuccarello was signed as a skill player and is starting to show those skills much more consistently and effectively. Shopping him now just sends a bad message, shows absolutely no forsight and would essentially be moving for overachieving in the very area you signed him for.
KingWantsCup
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If I suddenly had this kind of power, and had to elect one forum member to work in the NYR front office, without hesitation it would be RangerBoy. Incredibly knowledgeable.
aufheben
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no more striptease no more flashes
"...and in the world of sports, the New York Rangers announced today that they will simply cease to exist until at least the year 2020, when their recently accumulated draft picks will finally be ready to replace the loss of the current roster in its entirety."
RB is basically one of the only reasons I still read these forums.
Between the insane levels of over moderation (not specifically referring to the NYR subsection, but the site in general), to the bipolar hyperbolic nature of so many fans, it's just so much poo to sift through. He's one of the few bright spots. His updates and usually very good analysis.
I don't wanna sound like I'm sucking up here, but if you read this RB... please keep posting and ignore the ridiculous.
Between the insane levels of over moderation (not specifically referring to the NYR subsection, but the site in general), to the bipolar hyperbolic nature of so many fans, it's just so much poo to sift through. He's one of the few bright spots. His updates and usually very good analysis.
I don't wanna sound like I'm sucking up here, but if you read this RB... please keep posting and ignore the ridiculous.
E-Train
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This. RB is a huge asset to the board. Far better than most. Sucks to see many vets gone from here let's hope RB isn't one of them.
Made Dan
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I know it's Eklund, but I wonder if Del Zotto+ Boyle + Miller would be something of interest to Montreal.
In terms of value and nothing else, Montreal would have to be pretty unhappy with Patches do deal him for a package where MDZ was the primary piece. Even if that was the case, I think plenty of other teams would be willing to best that offer from the Rangers.
Rangers finally have Miller at center and playing well. no reason to trade him along with another center although Boyle will be an UFA. since Rangers dont have much depth at center with Richards most likely being bought out and Lindberg not even playing any games at the NHL level yet.
id do Girardi, Boyle 2ed 2014 and 2ed 2015 to Habs for LW Pacioretty and D Gorges
then flip Del Zotto, Callahan, St.Croix to Senators for Z.Smith, Borowiecki, Puempel (AHL), Prince (AHL), Greening (cap reasons)
nsvoyageurs
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With Girardi and Boyle being UFA's, Montreal could theoretically (if Girardi and Boyle don't resign there) be trading Pacioretty and Gorges for 2 second round picks. I can't see Montreal doing that. Bergevin would be pilloried.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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No to trading Miller, even for Pacioretty. Would love to get MaxPac, but we already have a similar player in Kreider. We have no on else like Miller on this team or in the system.
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