Yes they should I can't believe he actually threw his stick when a player on his own team ran him over broke his stick and punched him in the face. BANISH this discontent
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Yes they should I can't believe he actually threw his stick when a player on his own team ran him over broke his stick and punched him in the face. BANISH this discontent
TheBradyBunch
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I mean it was doomed before it even began, I honestly think you could make a proposal for Boyd Gordon and they'd ask for Karlsson back. "Gordon is our only faceoff ace and we already have Schultz!"
Qward
Because! That's why!
Going forward after this year I am not concerned about out D. We will have to spend money to get to the floor anyways, might as well get a guy like hartnell who is a good leader, can score hit and fight. He has a back diving contract too. Players like simmonds, Kane all cost too much to aquire. Hartnell can be had for cheap. You cant win a cup with a team of young 20 year olds. You need vets like hartnell.
I agree the perfect Neil replacement down the road. A tough guy that can play I really like the guy.
GimmeMyJetpack
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Hartnell is not exactly the best off-ice character for a young team...I'd have serious concerns bringing him if only for that reason.
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On top of that I'd be very hesitant to acquire a player that seems like a shell of his former self. Did you guys even notice the guy in the 3 games we played against them? I didn't.
Simmonds was noticeable though.
Neil's replacement + and by 2017 the way things are going that will be the value of an entry level contract
I actually thought it was 4 million with the actual dollars being front loaded. I love these type of guys come playoff time they are invaluable.Easily replaced by Prince (healthy scratch in the AHL), Puempel (yet to prove himself at the AHL level), Hoffman ( has not made the cut this year after two glorious opportunities), and Stone ( are these skates or snowshoes I have on). Give your head a shake. If you want to move him fine but to say EASILY replaced by those guys. Please
2 goals in 32 games, since we havnt seen prince, puempel, and the player im promoting to give a chance; Stone play this year in the bigs. your prediction is as good as mine. we just see it differently i guess, I dont see how matching conachers point totals this year is a stretch for any of those players though given the same games and opportunity, so yes i am shaking my head..at your incompetence. But to stop your blood pressure from rising, and your micro penis from shrinking..ill retract the 'easy' comment...and leave it to he can be replaced without much risk.
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I wonder if PM asked Neil to shake Conacher up at practise, it happens sometimes when a coach wants to get a guy going. Conacher has not done what he was brought in to do & that is produce goals & pts. He needs a good shakeup, something Yost can't seem to understand. Conacher does play a bit of a gritty pest game but for his size I would rather have a bigger, tougher player do that. Ottawa needs a goal scorer in his spot & lucky for them they have one in Bingo named Mark Stone, bring him up & move Conacher & Condra out asap.
Neil's replacement + and by 2017 the way things are going that will be the value of an entry level contract
I have no problem with Hartnell. Its that contract.
Thanks you amuse me greatly, my blood pressure is not rising at all I'm quite amused by guys that always think everyone is better than the players we have. Of coarse he can be replaced without much risk that statement makes sense. If you are simply talking about point totals then I don't even need to watch the games, why bother even discussing it. As far as the ..... statement, pretty childish can't say I didn't expect it.
Qward
Because! That's why!
How so? I care about the on ice stuff. Sticks up for his teammates and makes fun of dion. Why are people concerned about contracts? We will have 30 mil in cap space after this season and need to spend 10 just to reach the floor. The one bad year of his contract is this year. They would have to take Michalek back in exchange so it is a wash.
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What is with all of this hartnell talk? If we are targeting anyone from the flyers, it should be giroux. 
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you want that guy: 28g /6g / 6a = 12pts? at 4.75M for the next 5.5 years?
Not a big deal on the back diving contract by the way:
6,000,000(13/14) / 5 / 5 / 5 / 4.5 / 3 (18/19)
I'm sure we can find a better contract and a guy younger than 31.7 years old.
Thanks you amuse me greatly, my blood pressure is not rising at all I'm quite amused by guys that always think everyone is better than the players we have. Of coarse he can be replaced without much risk that statement makes sense. If you are simply talking about point totals then I don't even need to watch the games, why bother even discussing it. As far as the ..... statement, pretty childish can't say I didn't expect it.
well to be fair I never said one of those prospects would come in and be lights out, never said they would be better than conacher. But I did however state in a scenario where conacher is traded a guy such as Mark Stone can replace his offensive and defensive contributions, both independent and dependent on stats. So im not simply talking about point totals, I brought that up because he was traded to give us offensive numbers on a team that was struggling to put up goals last season. He has not done that since coming to Ottawa, I dont think conacher is a bad player..just one that doesnt fit in Ottawa, which is why I stated he could possibly be a steal in a trade for another team if he manages to bring back the game we expected him to bring. You cant tell me conacher has been impressive in his stint on Ottawa, he simply hasnt..so I have to assume your want for him in the lineup is based on the potential you see in him, which is fair. The reason I proposed him in a trade is because I believe other GM's may see that same potential in him...sometimes players just dont fit in certain teams/styles, and I would argue conacher doesnt fit here based what ive seen from him. And we can either wait and see if he hopefully progresses into an offensive threat, or try to flip him for someone who contributes now, and have him replaced by another one of our prospects filling the gap he would leave us.
if you tell me to give my head a shake when im the one using logic and reason, im going to resort to trash talk..because its fun for me lol
But back to dirty Hartnell!!! the reason hartnell is brought up is because hes affordable in a trade and hes a veteran presence..of course all of us would want G, Simmonds, or Voracek, but could the cost of them actually hurt us? id think so. But i do believe we need a veteran presence, doesnt have to be hartnell..i just think he would be a good fit/ fan favorite here in Ottawa. And considering Murray went after a player like Clarkson (thank god that didnt fall through) Hartnell gives that gritty, top line, scoring touch presence that Murray may have been looking for in the off season. His contract is big, but the only defense to that is we need somebody to get us over that cap floor next year.
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Qward
Because! That's why!
Last year Ryan had 11g in 46 games.
People have off years. Last full season he scored 37. The whole flyers team has been crapping the bed this year. New coach, new philosophy. I see him rebounding here. Ryan has 15g in 33 games. See? Rebounds.
ya I totally agree, plus he brings other elements to the table (fights, hits, falls down, grows a mean ginger beard, and does a great hulk hogan impression).
Except it's been two years in a row for Hartnell now. He hasn't ''rebounded'' this year. He's old as it is and his contract runs for another 6 years til he's 37. That's buyout worthy and not a contract a floor team should invest in
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