He is not slow by any means but I think since hall often plays with the puck and has great speed it helps him. Spezza also likes to carry with the puck but obviously lacks speed. Maybe they'd mesh well by my gut says they will not.
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He is not slow by any means but I think since hall often plays with the puck and has great speed it helps him. Spezza also likes to carry with the puck but obviously lacks speed. Maybe they'd mesh well by my gut says they will not.
Does Greening really hold any trade value at the moment? He just got signed to a higher priced extension and has not been producing any offense what so ever. Can't see teams seeing him as much of an addition at this point.
That's no insult I think your right. The problem with Havlat is the contract (too little production for too much money). I would take Hossa for Conacher because he is not injury prone, and his production equals his paycheck. I've have said all year I would have Zibanejad and Conacher playing third line, thats where they belong at this point in there development.
But the point of Hemsky is to get a winger for Spezza. This leaves the Sens in the exact same situation.
That's no insult I think your right. The problem with Havlat is the contract (too little production for too much money). I would take Hossa for Conacher because he is not injury prone, and his production equals his paycheck. I've have said all year I would have Zibanejad and Conacher playing third line, thats where they belong at this point in there development.
I agree and I don't understand why they are messing with their development right now. All last year Zibanejad played second line centre and now all of a sudden he can't even play on their 3rd or 4th line. Ottawa has too many centers in the system and need to make room for Zibanejad. Something has to give soon and I believe that one of their centres will be traded soon. I wouldn't doubt it if someone is packaged to Edmonton. I don't want Zibanejad gone but knowing that Maclean likes Smith so much that I could see something like Cowen + Zibanejad for Eberle + 2nd rd pick.
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I doubt we'll ever agree on this one so lets agree to disagree. At the time Heatley was a proven multi year 50 goal scorer at the top of his game. No one expected him to fall off so fast when he was taken away from Spezza. Heck he even carried the team almost by himself for a while when Spezza was injured. He was supposed to be a sure thing playing with Joe Thornton who many fans said was better than Spezza (not me). Michalek was a probable 20-25 goal scorer with possible upside and his contract was decent but it came with a high risk since he had already had knee surgery once and a second ACL injury requiring a lengthy rehab early on in his career.
Heatley's big contract was 1/2 paid in advance for the 1st year when Melnyk paid out the $4M up front bonus when Heatley nixed the Oilers deal so the Sharks only had to pay him $4M in his 1st year with them. The 2nd pick could be considered part payback for taking Cheechoo's albatross contract of $3.5M per year for 2 seasons. This for a guy who couldn't skate. In real dollars over the 2 seasons the Sharks came out pretty well.
When someone tries to stiff you, you can't say it's ok because the other guy suffered too after the fact. It might look like it worked out ok because Heatley flamed out quickly but at the time there's no doubt Wilson had BM over a barrel since BM didn't want Heatley in training camp and the Sharks knew Heatley wouldn't sign anywhere else. Heatley made it pretty clear after the deal that he wanted to play there and it's hard to imagine that his agent didn't tell them that. IMO there was perhaps technically legal but possibly a bit immoral communication going on in the whole Heatley fiasco. My advise to BM is count your fingers and your rings if you ever shake hands on a deal with a shark.
People are way too generous in proposing trades by devaluing our prospects and players and overly valuing the other team's. While I think Greening will be overpaid starting next year unless he finds some offense, there is no way I would give up Greening or Gryba for Havlat let alone both. The guy is just too injury prone and we'd end up in the same boat looking for a top 6 but $5M poorer plus whoever we gave up.
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Starting to have a hard time cheering for a team with an owner who isn't even willing to keep the team competitive.. it's a joke to be honest. Why would fans want to spend money knowing the owner wants to put 0 effort in icing a competent team.
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I have noticed when a statement by GM B. Murray comes out saying that nothing is going on trade wise, that just general talking is going on..........
Something happens right after that, not saying it always happens, but can...
Case in point was last year when he said "Big Ben" would remain a Senator till the off season, a few days later he was on his way to Tampa Bay..........................
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Why would someone want to spend millions when the fans will stop showing up when things go rough.
Goes both ways.
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There is a difference. I cheer for the sens first. If the sens are playing the bruins, i will cheer for the sens. I won't stop cheering for the sens not matter what.
It won't work that ship has sailed. He'll have to find another revenue stream or a rich partner if he can't afford the team but that's another story.
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