Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals Thread 2013-2014 | Part IV

[mattsens]

Thank you.
Id take half the guys on that list for the right price issue really comes down to contract size we have the assets to get any of them..... If I had my pick id take Green.....but lol not gonna happen. Del Zotto is enteresting id make a play for him... likely have to give up a something that guys here would squirm about but in the end id say itd be worth it.

The problem with a lot of these guys is that they're LHD. We have much more of a need on the right side.

 

[mattsens]

As for our forwards, I still want to give Hoffman a chance. I've been checking like every hour of the last few days expecting a trade so I want a trade as much as the next person, but we've barely seen any of Hoffman in the NHL at all (because of injury). He's doing well in the AHL so why not?

 

[83DIZ65]

As for our forwards, I still want to give Hoffman a chance. I've been checking like every hour of the last few days expecting a trade so I want a trade as much as the next person, but we've barely seen any of Hoffman in the NHL at all (because of injury). He's doing well in the AHL so why not?

Id like to see Hoffman up myself. Kids got what it takes in my opinion I think he might be a decent skill complement to spezza. not sure if hes ready for that but think thats where he fits going forward but hell why not give him a shot?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

We're not going to get what we need via a trade.

The team needs a collective brain transplant.

 

[SixthSens]

I wouldn't mind bringing Havlat back if the cost isn't much.

 

[SenzZen]

Really... this is who some of you guys want on the roster over Michalek or Conacher? I'd rather have the ****ing mascot on the roster ahead of this mess.

2013
10/30/2013 Missed 12 games (groin surgery).
10/03/2013 Groin surgery, sidelined indefinitely.
5/28/2013 Missed the last 4 playoff games (lower body injury).
5/21/2013 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
5/18/2013 Missed the last 5 playoff games (lower body injury).
5/03/2013 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
5/01/2013 Missed the last regular season game (undisclosed).
4/27/2013 Undisclosed, day-to-day.
3/18/2013 Missed 7 games (lower body injury).
3/09/2013 Lower body injury, injured reserve.
3/05/2013 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
2012
3/15/2012 Missed 39 games (lower body injury).
2011
12/21/2011 Lower body injury, injured reserve.
10/21/2011 Missed 4 games (shoulder surgery).
10/06/2011 Shoulder surgery, injured reserve.
7/03/2011 Acquired from the Minnesota Wild.
4/10/2011 Missed the last 4 regular season games (upper body injury).
4/08/2011 Upper body injury, remainder of the regular season.
4/03/2011 Undisclosed, day-to-day.
2010
4/11/2010 Missed the last 2 regular season games (hamstring).
4/08/2010 Hamstring, day-to-day.
4/04/2010 Missed 1 game (illness).
4/02/2010 Illness, day-to-day.
2009
12/02/2009 Missed 4 games (hamstring).
11/20/2009 Hamstring, day-to-day.
10/21/2009 Missed 2 games (groin).
10/15/2009 Groin, day-to-day.
7/01/2009 Signed as an unrestricted free agent by the Minnesota Wild to a six-year contract.
3/13/2009 Missed 1 game (lower body injury).
3/11/2009 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
2008
4/06/2008 Missed the last 19 games of the regular season (left shoulder injury).
2/28/2008 Left shoulder injury, day-to-day.
1/06/2008 Missed 6 games (groin).
2007
12/23/2007 Groin, sidelined indefinitely.
11/28/2007 Missed 22 games (shoulder injury).
11/17/2007 Shoulder injury, day-to-day.
10/17/2007 Shoulder injury, mid-November.
10/05/2007 Shoulder injury, sidelined indefinitely.
4/09/2007 Missed the last 3 games of the regular season (shoulder injury).
4/05/2007 Shoulder injury, remainder of the regular season.
3/01/2007 Missed 1 game (flu).
2/27/2007 Flu, day-to-day.
1/13/2007 Missed 3 games (groin).
1/05/2007 Groin, day-to-day.
2006
12/09/2006 Missed 19 games (right ankle injury).
12/06/2006 Right ankle injury, day-to-day.
10/21/2006 Right ankle injury, early December.
10/20/2006 Leg injury, left Friday's game.
7/09/2006 Acquired from the Ottawa Senators.
7/09/2006 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Chicago Blackhawks to a three-year contract.
4/15/2006 Missed 58 games (shoulder surgery).
2005
12/07/2005 Shoulder surgery, mid-April.
11/29/2005 Dislocated right shoulder, left Tuesday's game.
11/26/2005 Missed 1 game (hamstring).
11/23/2005 Hamstring, day-to-day.
11/22/2005 Hamstring, left Tuesday's game.
10/17/2005 Suspended by the NHL for 5 games.
8/10/2005 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Ottawa Senators to a one-year contract.
1/31/2005 NHL lockout: Signed with the HC Sparta Praha of the Czech Extraleague.
1/18/2005 NHL lockout: Signed with the HC Znojemsti Orli of the Czech Extraleague.
1/07/2005 Left Dynamo Moscow of the Russian League.
2004
11/10/2004 NHL lockout: Signed with the Dynamo Moscow of the Russian League.
9/24/2004 NHL lockout: Signed with the HC Znojemsti Orli of the Czech Extraleague.
9/15/2004 Re-signed by the Ottawa Senators to a one-year contract.
2/27/2004 Suspended by the NHL for two games.
2/03/2004 Missed 2 games (groin).
1/29/2004 Groin, day-to-day.
1/02/2004 Suspended by the NHL for two games.
2003
11/27/2003 Missed 3 games (hamstring).
11/22/2003 Hamstring, day-to-day.
10/11/2003 Re-signed by the Ottawa Senators to a one-year contract.
3/11/2003 Missed 2 games (groin).
3/05/2003 Groin, day-to-day.
3/04/2003 Groin, left Tuesday's game.
3/01/2003 Missed 4 games (groin).
2/20/2003 Groin, day-to-day.
1/27/2003 Missed 2 games (elbow injury).
1/23/2003 Elbow injury, day-to-day.
1/22/2003 Missed 0 game (right arm injury).
1/21/2003 Right arm injury, day-to-day.
1/20/2003 Leg injury, left Monday's game.
2002
11/14/2002 Missed 6 games (groin).
11/08/2002 Groin, mid-November.
10/29/2002 Groin, day-to-day.
4/17/2002 Missed the last 7 games of the regular season (groin).
3/30/2002 Groin, day-to-day.
3/23/2002 Missed 2 games (groin).
3/19/2002 Groin, day-to-day.
2/06/2002 Missed 1 game (groin).
2/01/2002 Groin, day-to-day.
2001
4/13/2001 Missed the last game of the regular season (groin).
4/07/2001 Groin, day-to-day.
4/01/2001 Named NHL Rookie of the Month for March.
2000
12/14/2000 Missed 8 games (right shoulder injury).
11/25/2000 Right shoulder injury, mid-December.

Thank you.

 

[stempniaksen]

I don't really think Havlat makes a ton of sense unless it's Michalek for Havlat++

Money wise a Michalek/Havlat swap makes sense, and maybe if San Jose would be willing to throw in a competent RHD (Demers or Braun) the Sens bite.

Even then I'd be weary, but it's an idea.

 

[benjiv1]

I don't really think Havlat makes a ton of sense unless it's Michalek for Havlat++

Money wise a Michalek/Havlat swap makes sense, and maybe if San Jose would be willing to throw in a competent RHD (Demers or Braun) the Sens bite.

Even then I'd be weary, but it's an idea.

Its possible SJ could retain half his salary while the Sens take on his cap hit. SJ could then make a play for a bigger asset at the deadline.

Havlat is just as likely to get hurt as Michalek, but he might be able to help them team when he does play, unlike Milan.

 

[83DIZ65]

I want Scott Hartnell or Tuomo Ruutu or both in Ottawa....

 

[Laoghaire]

Its possible SJ could retain half his salary while the Sens take on his cap hit. SJ could then make a play for a bigger asset at the deadline.

Havlat is just as likely to get hurt as Michalek, but he might be able to help them team when he does play, unlike Milan.

Is that actually possible?

 

[BonkTastic]

Is that actually possible?

Nope.

You trade for a guy at a 20% discount, it's 20% of both cap hit and salary owed. They are tied together.

 

[YNWA14]

If they'd be willing to give up Demers with Havlat we'd have to give up something of value too.

 

[TheNewEra]

as per senschirp ottawa and edmonton are talking trade, he doesnt mention any names but its more than likely hemsky (my guess due to cost and availability)

i guess we really are looking for cheap band aid fix

http://senschirp.ca/news/game-day-senators-visit-emery-flyers/

 

[Tkachuk27]

Like Murray to get Cammalleri I can see him working perfect with Spezza

Smith Hoffman 3rd for Cammalleri with 35% salary retained

 

[BonkTastic]

as per senschirp ottawa and edmonton are talking trade, he doesnt mention any names but its more than likely hemsky (my guess due to cost and availability)

i guess we really are looking for cheap band aid fix

http://senschirp.ca/news/game-day-senators-visit-emery-flyers/

No, that's impossible, because Craig Mactavish said months ago that Ales Hemsky is staying with the Oilers all season, and as we all know, Oilers management are infallible.

 

[WhiteLight*]

Only way I take Havlat is 50% retained salary and Greening going the other way.


Just give Hoffman a chance. He's earned it. Only reason I can think of not to is because of roster space and having to go through waivers to be sent down again. So I guess they're waiting for an injury for an 'emergency' call-up?

 

[TheNewEra]

No, that's impossible, because Craig Mactavish said months ago that Ales Hemsky is staying with the Oilers all season, and as we all know, Oilers management are infallible.

i rather get yakupov/eberle and after that smid deal we could probably get them for dirt cheap since the oilers dont know how to value players

 

[Wondercarrot]

Only way I take Havlat is 50% retained salary and Greening going the other way.


Just give Hoffman a chance. He's earned it. Only reason I can think of not to is because of roster space and having to go through waivers to be sent down again. So I guess they're waiting for an injury for an 'emergency' call-up?

yeah id like to see hoffman as well. he was poor in training camp but fantastic last year when called up before his injury. I think he's earned it.
he's super fast, high end skill - can handle the puck, take a pass, make a pass, good shot, high hockey IQ.
- basically the opposite of all of spezza's linemates so far this season.

 

[Xspyrit]

Even though he owes us big time dont expect any favours from Doug Wilson. He's playing a bit of a game trying to get more than he should for Havlat so lets hope BM doesn't fall for it. Wilson is pretending like he's still high on Havlat even though he's a scratch and would probably love to dump his salary. Wilson thumb screwed BM on the Heatley deal by getting him at 1/2 price for the 1st year and giving us oft injured Michalek which wasn't the worst piece but then he also managed to dump Cheechoo on us too. Lets hope the Sens stay away from any deal with the Sharks. Bryan Murray is a straight shooter but some GMs have no qualms about stiffing their counterparts in a trade. Every time I hear his brother's voice on TSN1200 I'm reminded of it so wish they'd avoid him too.

What does he owes us big time?

He gave up Michalek and a 2nd for Dany freaking Heatley and his burden of a contract... Michalek was a 24 y/o explosive forward averaging 55-65 pts in his last 3 years with the Sharks with more than 3 millions less per year on his cap hit than Heatley

Heatley had 1 good season with the Sharks and became a headache very fast. Yes Heatley has been a very productive forward in the past but he showed signs of decline and an "headcase aura" in 2008-09. If he was so "wanted" by GMs, offers would have come flying, but I don't think it was the case... and Heatley was controlling his destiny. If Murray is to blame for something in this, is for giving Heatley a big contract without seeing the eventual problems with him

I'd say what is happening today for Heatley (4 pts in 21 games) is not that surprising. Heatley's skating has degraded every year. Anyone who'd like to have Heatley before Michalek is simply out of his mind

We got very lucky to get rid of that contract. We could have been even more lucky if it wasn't for Michalek injuries

I'd trade Greening and Gryba for Havlat if he wants to get rid of Havlat 5.0 cap hit

Michalek-Spezza-Havlat
MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Smith-Zibanejad-Conacher
Condra-Grant-Neil
Kassian

Does anyone like those lines?

 

[GK]

i rather get yakupov/eberle and after that smid deal we could probably get them for dirt cheap since the oilers dont know how to value players

You're right. They don't know how to value players, that's why those two players are going to cost waaaaay too much.

 

[TheNewEra]

You're right. They don't know how to value players, that's why those two players are going to cost waaaaay too much.

or cheaper than expected, i dont think anyone thought smid would be dealt for such a low price, especially when they didnt need to trade him to begin with

murray needs to keep tallon/mactravish/feaster and holmgren on speed dial, one of those 4 are bound to make a stupid move soon and make a move for the sake of making a move so thats where we can take advantage

 

[Dr.Sens(e)]

There isn't a lot we can really do right now, it seems.

Eberle or Yakupov will cost us Cowen, which I'm not inclined to do, although Eberle would be tempting. But either way, getting a young forward is not going to solve our puck possession issues in any way. Getting Spezza a winger will help, but that is not the major problem with this team right now.

As to a veteran defender, I'm also not sure that will help. getting someone on the right side who is solid, might help a bit, but we'll still have 5 of the same guys on the ice that are here now, and that one guy is not going to resolve the issue either.

Part of the problem of not having your 1st round pick, is management ends up feeling a bit desperate to do short term fixes, so the loss of the 1st rounder doesn't quite hurt as much. Its a bit of a pickle for Murray, although at least Ryan is looking good, which helps reduce the angst of your 1st being a high 1st.

Personally, I think the coaches need another 15-20 games to see whether they can get this team back on track in some way. Really surprised, like many, at our lack of puck possession night in and night out. Even when we win.

 

[Dr.Sens(e)]

or cheaper than expected, i dont think anyone thought smid would be dealt for such a low price, especially when they didnt need to trade him to begin with

murray needs to keep tallon/mactravish/feaster and holmgren on speed dial, one of those 4 are bound to make a stupid move soon and make a move for the sake of making a move so thats where we can take advantage

I do like the idea of going after Wayne Simmonds, if he is available. Moving Wiercioch or some other package for him would be a great move, short-term and long-term.

 

[sens613]

I do like the idea of going after Wayne Simmonds, if he is available. Moving Wiercioch or some other package for him would be a great move, short-term and long-term.

With the flyers recent winning streak I doubt they are in sell mode. If they fall apart again I'd love to get Simmonds or voracek along with timonen. Probably would be far to expensive in assets but a man can dream.

 

[YNWA14]

Eberle or Yakupov will cost us Cowen, which I'm not inclined to do, although Eberle would be tempting.

I'd imagine if that was the price then one of them would already be a Senator. If I'm them I ask for way more than just Cowen.

But either way, getting a young forward is not going to solve our puck possession issues in any way. Getting Spezza a winger will help, but that is not the major problem with this team right now.

It will help, but ultimately this is true.

As to a veteran defender, I'm also not sure that will help. getting someone on the right side who is solid, might help a bit, but we'll still have 5 of the same guys on the ice that are here now, and that one guy is not going to resolve the issue either.

It would help take pressure off Karlsson who is playing too much now and making a lot of mistakes in the defensive zone. It would allow for the Methot/Karlsson pairing to be consistent and then have another strong pairing that could alleviate a lot of pressure on the forwards, too.