Rangers only sellers if they completely fall out of it . Can see Gab and others dealt in offseason when and if they fall short . Need either a real 1 C or a good 3 C and another D man
Rumor: Trade Rumor Thread V: "Trade 40 Goal Scorer NBD" (3/8: Getzlaf re-signs)
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NYR Viper
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I don't see a reason to move Gaborik for an aging player. Why not move him for good young pieces?
NYR Viper
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Well, Hertl/Hamilton both have #2 center upside.
But, I agree with you. I'd much prefer long-term parts.
However...
I did just find this though:
http://nyrzone.com/nhl-trade-rumors-marian-gaborik-dan-boyle/
I do recall that one from over the summer.
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We should be looking to buy, not move Gaborik this season.
Like I've said, if hes dealt I am 99% sure it will be in the offseason. If at all.
You add another scoring forward as a rental to this team if they look ready for it.
Perry and Getz will either be re-signed or sold for a nominal fee at the deadline. I bet the Rangers would love Perry but after the Nash deal simply don't have the assets to bring him aboard.
If NYR are insistent on trading Gaborik, they should make a move for a 1st line winger at the deadline, play through the playoffs on a top lineup, then move Gaborik in the offseason for some of those assets back, plus a good cheap roster player.
Like I've said, if hes dealt I am 99% sure it will be in the offseason. If at all.
You add another scoring forward as a rental to this team if they look ready for it.
Perry and Getz will either be re-signed or sold for a nominal fee at the deadline. I bet the Rangers would love Perry but after the Nash deal simply don't have the assets to bring him aboard.
If NYR are insistent on trading Gaborik, they should make a move for a 1st line winger at the deadline, play through the playoffs on a top lineup, then move Gaborik in the offseason for some of those assets back, plus a good cheap roster player.
So a center then.
That would put us out of it. I love Shattenkirk.
Any offensive defensemen are going to be tricky to acquire.
Yeah, I agree. The draft, IMO would be the time to trade Gaborik.
I'd really love to be able to add a real offenisve defenseman to this roster.
The only reason i keep mentioning Boyle is because of all the speculation about a possible deal with San Jose.
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NYR Sting
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I don't buy that for a second. No way they ship out one of the best young offensive defenseman in the game for aging, fragile Briere. StL ain't trading Shattenkirk.
NYR Viper
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I didn't either. Just saying what was reported. It was also said STL backed off when they asked for Shattenkirk.
The Philly Daily News article reported the Flyers like Shattenkirk. The Blues are not trading him for a 35 year old player. Briere can play both center and left wing. The Blues are in the market for a lefty D. Redden has not worked out for them. Shocking?!? There are the people on this board who believed Redden could have helped the Rangers and he was not motivated to play well stuck in the AHL. He sucks.
pld459666
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ROR required waivers to play in the NHL this season if he had been traded or had gone to Calgary in the offer sheet. He played in the KHL after the NHL season started. ROR is the on Avs reserve list he can play for them without clearing waivers. Zuccarello can sign with the Rangers without needing waivers. Reserve list. How did Newport allow ROR to play in the KHL after Jan.19? http://wap.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2013...tunate_colorado_avalanche_match_ryan_oreilly/
NYR Viper
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I just read that. That would have been TERRIBLE.
So now that he has signed with Colorardo, does he have to go through waivers to play this year?
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So they would have been out the picks and the signing bonus and had him go immediately on waivers? That would have been hilarious.
So they would have been out the picks and the signing bonus and had him go immediately on waivers? That would have been hilarious.
Lol, wow. So if Colorado doesn't match you think Calgary would have just sat him all year? What a horrid job by Newport and poor homework by Calgary.
It would have been kind of funny to see a situation where Colorado gets compensated with draft picks then claimed O'Reilly from waivers.
Also, absolutely horrible by Sherman to not know that O'Reilly needed to clear waivers as he could have made it public knowledge and basically removed the threat of an offer sheet giving the Avs more leverage. What a strange situation.
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Don't get me wrong; I'm a huge fan of Kronwall. But he is not a "monster hitting" defense man.
If all you watch are the highlight reels, I could see how you would get that impression... but it simply isn't the case. Every ten games or so he maybe lays down a big hit, but he doesn't do it consistently. He is a defenceman more in the mold of a slightly more physical and less offensively skilled Lidstrom. Doesn't mean he isn't great and I would love to have him on the team... but he's not the big hitter you seem to think he is. Either way, not happening, no way Detroit gives him up - they are desperate for d-men as it is.
pld459666
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Why is it a horrid job by Newport?
He would still be getting his 3+ million this year and 6.5 next season.
How is that a bad thing? Because he would have been Columbus 1st line center?
The Agents job in this situation was to get their client a deal for as much $$ as possible and who provided them that was not an issue.
Is Calgary in that much better a position than Columbus? NOPE.
In fact if I were a 22 year old kid, I would prefer to go to Columbus and grow with a core that they have been putting together than play with Calgary.
Lol at management in the NHL...
I mean, Mike Milbury was a GM in this league just a couple of years ago.
Because if Sherman would have known about it as he should have it would have taken away the power of an offer sheet, drastically decreasing O'Reilly's leverage.
Newport screwed up but were saved because Sherman also messed up.
Also, it removed any power O'Reilly had in choosing his destination as being put on waivers takes any power away from the player. O'Reilly may not have cared where he played but I'm sure he'd not have played more games in the KHL if he was aware that it would have taken away his ability to chose where he signed.
pld459666
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Incorrect.
If Ryan were traded the acquiring team would have been protected in the same way that Colorado was protected.
The only way this is an issue is because of the RFA signing by a team.
A trade carries the protection that the Av's enjoyed.
The fact that Calgary signed him is inconsequential.
Had Columbus offered him the same money he would have signed the offer-sheet.
This is not about location. This was a money grab. Controling where he played wasn't an issue.
To add, if this was really about location, then you do not sign an offer-sheet. You demand a trade and hold out until one is granted.
Newport screwed up and if Sherman was aware of the situation then the threat of an offer-sheet is gone. If Sherman would have done his homework then Calgary doesn't offer sheet O'Reilly knowing they give up picks for a player who won't clear waivers, and then O'Reilly doesn't get his monster contract.
In regards to being protected, I wasn't talking about a trade I was talking about waivers. I'm not sure I understand what you mean about him being protected if he is put on waivers. My apologies if I don't follow this situation but I'm not sure I see how he is protected if he's put on waivers.
Also, you don't know if O'Reilly would have signed an offer sheet from Columbus. That may be the case but it may not be. Nevertheless, the main issue is that Newport took away the power of the offer-sheet by letting O'Reilly playing a few more games, which was a horrid mistake, but they were saved by the incompetence of Sherman.
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