Rumor: Trade Rumor Thread V: "Trade 40 Goal Scorer NBD" (3/8: Getzlaf re-signs)

[Punxrocknyc19*]

I didn't say he's a #1, but he's already a top pair guy with significant upside to his game. He's two years younger the McDonagh. I'd give Kreider + Miller + 1st for him.

No way id give Miller... Miller is too important and can play multiple forward positons.

 

[The Gloaming]

I don't think it's okay. It really looks like he regressed and is doing the exact opposite of what he did the last playoffs, a more pressure packed environment. He's played like a ***** and never drives to the net. Miller for example is two yrs younger and has adjusted much better with zero previous experience.

Ok, so did he magically get worse? He was riding adrenaline in the playoffs. He was told to just go out and play. Now, he has to learn systems, learn to defend, all of that. So let him do just that, and learn in Hartford.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I didn't say he's a #1, but he's already a top pair guy with significant upside to his game. He's two years younger the McDonagh. I'd give Kreider + Miller + 1st for him.

You realize that exact offer last year could have gotten Rick Nash during our SC run right?

 

[Kershaw]

That's too much.

I see a bunch of secondary assets for a young high end asset that fills a huge hole in the lineup. What's the problem?

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

That's too much.

way too much... The Rangers top 4 is already ridiculously good and we have a solid #5 dman in Stralman... and we're giving up Kreider/Miller AND a 1st to make our defense better?

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I see a bunch of secondary assets for a young high end asset that fills a huge hole in the lineup. What's the problem?

what is this huge hole that he fills exactly?

 

[The Gloaming]

I see a bunch of secondary assets for a young high end asset that fills a huge hole in the lineup. What's the problem?

We need more scoring.

And those secondary assets will fill important roles in the near future. That's how it works in the cap world.

 

[NYR Viper]

I see a bunch of secondary assets for a young high end asset that fills a huge hole in the lineup. What's the problem?

The Rangers have hopes of those guys being top 6 power forwards. Move them and the Rangers prospect depth is laughable.

 

[Kershaw]

Patience. It's a confidence thing.

I'd be more confident with Kreider if he had a more dominant resume to his record. He only has one good scoring year in college and that was when he was way more experienced than the others.

 

[Kershaw]

You realize that exact offer last year could have gotten Rick Nash during our SC run right?

And? A young ELC defender like Bogosian has much more value than Nash in the salary cap world of hockey. Columbus would've needed to apply the lubricant to Winnipeg if they got away with a high-end, young asset like Bogosian in return for disgruntled player who was on his way out for sure.

 

[NYR Viper]

I'd be more confident with Kreider if he had a more dominant resume to his record. He only has one good scoring year in college and that was when he was way more experienced than the others.

A junior is way more experienced? He was good as a sophomore too. WJC's? World's? Playoffs? He will be fine.

 

[Kershaw]

Ok, so did he magically get worse? He was riding adrenaline in the playoffs. He was told to just go out and play. Now, he has to learn systems, learn to defend, all of that. So let him do just that, and learn in Hartford.

Wasn't his excuse of lack of production in BC was because he was learning the systematic play of college hockey?

 

[NYR Viper]

And? A young ELC defender like Bogosian has much more value than Nash in the salary cap world of hockey. Columbus would've needed to apply the lubricant to Winnipeg if they got away with a high-end, young asset like Bogosian in return for disgruntled player who was on his way out for sure.

Bogo is not on his ELC.

 

[The Gloaming]

Bogosian is on a 2 year bridge contract and would surely be looking to cash in this summer.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

And? A young ELC defender like Bogosian has much more value than Nash in the salary cap world of hockey. Columbus would've needed to apply the lubricant to Winnipeg if they got away with a high-end, young asset like Bogosian in return for disgruntled player who was on his way out for sure.

That would only be true if the Rangers didn't already have a great top 4.

 

[Kershaw]

what is this huge hole that he fills exactly?

A player that will slot on the RH side, bring a hard point shot on the PP and play defense at an elite level to compensate Staal. Oh yeah, and he's right handed.

 

[The Gloaming]

Wasn't his excuse of lack of production in BC was because he was learning the systematic play of college hockey?

BC played a defense-oriented system. That's what I gathered from watching him. College hockey isn't exactly everyone running around playing pond hockey.

 

[NYR Viper]

That would only be true if the Rangers didn't already have a great top 4.

They don't. They have 4 good defensemen. MDZ plays on the 3rd pair because he is a Ld

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

BC played a defense-oriented system. That's what I gathered from watching him. College hockey isn't exactly everyone running around playing pond hockey.

sounds exactly like the Rangers...

 

[Kershaw]

A junior is way more experienced? He was good as a sophomore too. WJC's? World's? Playoffs? He will be fine.

He only had 1 PPG season at college, but he did have two good WJC showings. WJC = small sample sizes.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

They don't. They have 4 good defensemen. MDZ plays on the 3rd pair because he is a Ld

Then wouldn't it make sense to trade Del Zotto for a RHD instead of a young forward?

 

[Kershaw]

Bogo is not on his ELC.

1 yr at 2.5m left.

 

[Kershaw]

We need more scoring.

And those secondary assets will fill important roles in the near future. That's how it works in the cap world.

Yes, but it's a trade where you're making a move for a young asset who will presumably spend a long time with the Rangers.

The Rangers have hopes of those guys being top 6 power forwards. Move them and the Rangers prospect depth is laughable.

They still have Fasth, Lindberg. They'd take a hit, but most of their young players would already be on the NHL roster. Young proven players > prospects.

 

[NYR Viper]

He only had 1 PPG season at college, but he did have two good WJC showings. WJC = small sample sizes.

He was not in a scoring role until last year at BC.

 

[The Gloaming]

1 yr at 2.5m left.

Right. So 2nd contract. Same as Del Zotto.