LaffyTaffyNYR
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Yup took us 6 and 7 games to beat inferior teams because WE COULD NOT SCORE with this system
Rumor: Trade Rumor Thread IV - "What's all the roar over RoR?"
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McSauer
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that Mets comparison is all I have haha
SA16
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Agreed. How many teams aren't very weak with their 7th defenseman? Almost every team is. There is a reason the guys who are 7th defenseman are 7th defenseman. They're just not that good. Exceptions of course being teams that have highly regarded prospects that are ready and can be called up if need be.
In fact I'd say despite Eminger or Bickel we have relatively better depth than other teams given the strength of our top 4 and their ability to extremely limit the amount of minutes that our 3rd pairing has to play.
Gilroy has been surprisingly good for the most part this year though he was pretty brutal tonight.
Inferno
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Correct me if i'm wrong. but we won both of those series correct?
wouldn't that mean that.....we COULD SCORE more than the other team?
I may not be as smart as many of the other armchair GMs out there, but I was under the impression that, at the end of the day, the goal of the game was to score more goals than the other team you're playing against.
I mean, please, correct me if i'm wrong here. I mean, a team like Pittsburgh lost to an "inferior" team last year despite scoring seemingly 5 or 6 goals a game. I'm sure they are thrilled with their offensive prowess, i mean, who cares if you win or not.
I wanted the Dmen we had + trade for some quality depth. While most of this board wanted to trade DZ.
That was BEFORE the DZ injury and the massacre tonight.
I just hope you guys are praying he is healthy enough to start Tuesday.
When you are counting on Gilroy, we are in deep ****
I wanted the Dmen we had + trade for some quality depth. While most of this board wanted to trade DZ.
That was BEFORE the DZ injury and the massacre tonight.
I just hope you guys are praying he is healthy enough to start Tuesday.
When you are counting on Gilroy, we are in deep ****
What depth, we have 1 spot available when everyone is healthy. Gilroy has been pretty good. We suck at center too. We have 1 guy playing decently at center. Everyone else sucks. What's your point?
Took us 7 games both series. That was the furthest I've seen a team of mine go in a best of 7 playoff format (including the Knicks) and it was excruciating. ZERO offense, sit in your zone the whole game. Rangers fans have to stop acting like Jets fans and stop talking about our run last year like we won the cup. It's PATHETIC. Stop it! We didn't win a cup, stop pretending like we did.
Jabroni
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My point was displayed tonight. You can't count on everybody being healthy. In this condensed season injuries will happen. But it maybe a concept you can't or refuse to grasp.
So you want to trade for 7th and 8th D-man? How many teams are 8 deep at defense?
Tell me, since you're so against trading D-man for a center. Where's the depth at center? At least when everyone is healthy we have a good top 5 and a top 6 that's played decently all season. When everyone's healthy at center, we have no #3 center! We have less depth at center. Hate to break it to you, but just because injuries happened to the D this time, doesn't mean they can't happen to our Cs next time.
This reminds me of when I was like 8 and I came to visit my aunt and uncle. My uncle really wanted me to sit in the front seat of his car. However, I was a bit of a coward, plus I knew I wasn't supposed to. So his argument was "My car recently got hit in the back, imagine if someone were sitting there". And what if his car were hit in the front?
BBKers
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C'mon inferno don't be so naive. By the same token they got knocked out by the devils because they had trouble scoring timely goals and scoring goals at all, and they had no depth on the bottom lines; at least not the depth that can chip in a little offense. Torts' system is too defensive. It is too safe. This constant dump and chase is boring and uneventful. They turn the puck over every time they do that. And what's worse is if you're really watching, they dump it in get beat to the puck, the puck slides up the boards and our defenseman start pinching but they are a step too late therefore odd man rushes keep happening.
LaffyTaffyNYR
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Yep we won with Hank standing on his head over and over and over... what happened when we played NJ where Hank couldnt save our ***** all the time? Not only did we lose, but they pretty much dominated us
Besides. We didn't get anywhere near where we needed to go. We would never have won the cup that way. We got rewarded the Sens because of a great regular season. Then however we got lucky getting the Caps and the Devils. Couldn't even beat the Devils, they made us look silly. Because we had eek by wins against 2 pretty mediocre teams we were tired against a team that was the weakest cup finalist since the 06 Oilers. We got lucky last year and still couldn't capitalize. Still looked bad winning 2 series. Arguably outplayed in both.
Gilroy is barely serviceable, I don't trust him and neither does Torts.
Why do you insist on trading DZ to fill the #3C need? That's robbing from Peter to pay Paul.
Boyle is a serviceable 3C. He needs to be upgraded, but why the urgency. Miller will replace him next season, if not later this season.
Every team has holes. If that's the only hole this team has, it will survive.
People think we accomplished so much last year and to a very high degree we did; finishing 1st in the conference, getting to the ECF, etc. But when you look at it, we didn't have to play against Boston or Pittsburgh, two teams that I think would've given us fits. Thank god we played against opposing offenses that were just that, mediocre.
Because #3 center is more important than #6 D-man. You can hide a #6 D-man (and Gilroy is not Stu Bickel where he has to play 3 minutes a night), you can't hide your # center. Plus our top 5 is playing better than Richards. So now we only have 1 center playing decently.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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Gilroy has been pretty serviceable this season, coming from a LONG time hater of the guy. His minutes just need to be low, not super low, but around 10 minutes, and he'll put up a steady hockey game.
I believe tonight or last night was the first time he was on the ice for a GA this season. I mean, there could be an upgrade out there for the #6 spot, but we're fine there with Gilroy.
LaffyTaffyNYR
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I worry about the 3rd line more than the bottom defensive pair. I don't want to give up DZ either, look at my first posts. However, the more I watch Boyle, Miller, and Richards, the more I see that center is a bigger weakness than D. Organizationally too. We need to buyout Richards. What will we do then?
LaffyTaffyNYR
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lol.. our top 4 might soon be. Staal stralman del zotto gilroy.. lol- Status
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