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Rumor: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXVI: G Staying Put.

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aufheben said:
2013 - Keith, Seabrook
2012 - Doughty
2011 - Chara
2010 - Keith, Seabrook
2009 - Gonchar, Letang
2008 - Lidstrom, Rafalski
2007 - Niedermayer, Pronger
2006 - Kaberle, Hedican
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Doughty is a 40 point defenseman, like McDonagh is right now. He had a great playoffs. So can anyone on our team.

Gonchar and Letang had 27 points in 45 games those playoffs. Nothing spectacular
 
GregSirico said:
In order to get an "elite 1C" as you see fit .. you would have to give up a lot ... more than you think ... ADDITIONALLY .. to get a pick THEN develop him .... you're talking years ... this team might be at the end of the window when he is ready to make an impact.
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Yea, we will have to give up a lot and we should, considering that it what it takes to win.

Or we can keep going with the same method we have been for the past 20 years.

Develop good D, decent wingers and meh centers. Overpay to fill holes where we can't or trade the farm for guys who are higher end in skill and continue to fall out in the playoffs in the first couple rounds.

I'm sure we've all been happy with our one ECF since the lockout and a whopping 2 since we last won the Stanley Cup.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
It's funny, every time I read a post by you, it's the only one making sense. Literally every time. Get these logical arguments out of here and instead keep throwing out tired cliches. :laugh:
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cant argue with facts and logical reasoning here.
 
GregSirico said:
In order to get an "elite 1C" as you see fit .. you would have to give up a lot ... more than you think ... ADDITIONALLY .. to get a pick THEN develop him .... you're talking years ... this team might be at the end of the window when he is ready to make an impact.
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Well, in my opinion, there's no real window without that No. 1 C. Lundqvist or not, this team is no closer to a cup than it was in '06-'07.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
The reason I like 31 is because he seems to be the only person that doesn't have the macho hockey fan attitude that winning means you're the objectively better team, so they can brag about how much of a competitor they are and how much they like winning. He understands the context of luck and probability. Everyone else seems to think that a team that won a game that involves so much possibly luck is objectively better and if you lost you're objectively worse and can't be brought up as an example of anything having to do with success. It's an incredibly inflexible and stubborn attitude.
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Um, I have been saying this for YEARS now.
 
Kreider said:
Doughty is a 40 point defenseman, like McDonagh is right now. He had a great playoffs. So can anyone on our team.

Gonchar and Letang had 27 points in 45 games those playoffs. Nothing spectacular
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He was alluding to the fact that the two most important positions are center and d when it comes to a successful team.....

I believe we have the D to win. We don't have the centers.
 
Kreider said:
Doughty is a 40 point defenseman, like McDonagh is right now. He had a great playoffs. So can anyone on our team.

Gonchar and Letang had 27 points in 45 games those playoffs. Nothing spectacular
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Once again, Anything Can Happen! Sorry, that's just not good enough for me.
 
It's funny, people rip on us for not throwing out facts and throwing out cliches. Yet we list past teams who won the cups and their most important players, of which were centers and yet, we're the ones not posting facts.

But hey, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. I've been hearing it since I became a Rangers fan. Unfortunately, I was only 4 when they won the cup, so my optimism has dwindled since anything can happen got old years ago.

That's also the exact type of mindset that our GM genius Sather has.
 
AHB said:
Yea, we will have to give up a lot and we should, considering that it what it takes to win.

Or we can keep going with the same method we have been for the past 20 years.

Develop good D, decent wingers and meh centers. Overpay to fill holes where we can't or trade the farm for guys who are higher end in skill and continue to fall out in the playoffs in the first couple rounds.

I'm sure we've all been happy with our one ECF since the lockout and a whopping 2 since we last won the Stanley Cup.
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I guess we can agree to disagree.
 
GregSirico said:
I guess we can agree to disagree.
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We all want the same thing. We just have differing opinions. All in all, I'm happy with a lot of this team and especially the way they're playing.

I still think there's more work to do and maybe I'm scarred from past signings/trades, but I just don't see it as the smart move to bring in another really old player and pay for him with pieces from our future.

Clowe was a mistake last year and cost us guys that could be developing right now. We throw away picks far to often for a team that truly isn't really a contender enough and it hurts us year after year when we lack depth.

We have depth this year, time to keep it, add to it and not throw it away.
 
People are being ridiculous. Because other teams that won had a number 1 center that means that not only is that the reason they won, it's impossible to win without one. Does no one see the logical fallacy here?
 
Just throwing out "Anything Can Happen!" is such a stupid oversimplification of our point.

We're saying it's not black and white. There's grey. We're also saying we can learn from teams other than the 1 that happened to win the Cup that year.
 
aufheben said:
I said I was leaving, and I didn't. :laugh:
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Ah ha. Well, good thing!

After Goon posted earlier tonight, i was hoping for some sort of update from a beat writer or something tonight.

Fighting it, trying to stay awake.
 
I've seen two teams of mine, who had way less business winning than this Rangers team, do exactly that... win

I'll always subscribe to the 'pretty much anything can happen' belief, because I've seen it happen
 
aufheben said:
I agree. Probably the most meaningless statement in the English language.
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No I mean, you're making it sound like this is a minor league team going up against the 70s Habs. I also feel like that was brought up only a handful of times and this is more or less a strawman argument.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
This "anything can happen" crap is ridiculous, you make it sound like the Rangers are Buster Douglas preparing to fight Tyson.
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I've read that already multiple times in this thread. Rangers make the playoffs, anything can happen.

Of course it can. Thing is, I don't bet on odds that aren't good. Call me a pessimist, but this teams last 20 years have kind of earned me that right.
 
AHB said:
I've read that already multiple times in this thread. Rangers make the playoffs, anything can happen.

Of course it can. Thing is, I don't bet on odds that aren't good. Call me a pessimist, but this teams last 20 years have kind of earned me that right.
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Because the 1997-98 Rangers are very relevant in evaluating the 2013-14 Rangers?
 
Literally the first thing I said regarding how good this team is "I think they have what it takes to go far, but will ultimately fall short". That is hardly ******** on them; I haven't changed that viewpoint, and I've given my reasons for it.
 
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