Toggle sidebar

Rumor: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXV: It's a Marty Party [*Mod Warning post #132]

  • Thread starter Thread starter *Bob Richards*
  • Start date Start date
  • Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
Status
Not open for further replies.
AHB said:
And that cup...o wait.

He's been underwhelming as a playoff performer, if he can even make it there healthy.
Click to expand...

He's been an underwhelming scorer, not performer, just as the rest of his team has been. The team that has consistently lacked offensive talent and has asked Callahan to do far more than he ever should have been asked to do. And he may not have made it to the playoffs healthy every time, but the Rangers wouldn't have made the playoffs without him.

Some people act like this guy is some legendary Ranger in the making.....he's not. He's a solid player that's come through our system. He's been a fair leader for us, not a great one. Good team guy, good role player, effective for secondary scoring, not someone that deserves 6+million. Hopefully Glen has somewhat, finally, learned his lesson.
Click to expand...

He's the second most important Ranger of the last 15 years. He's an EXCELLENT role player, and scoring has very little to do with what makes him a great player. How you know what sort of leader he is is beyond me. You're not in the room. Based on what we as fans see, one can only assume that he's an incredible leader, since he's spent the vast majority of his career outworking other players on the ice, being an exemplary professional, and sacrificing his well-being for the good of the team. Doing anything he can within his ability (and often times more) to help his team win.

Girardi takes a slight discount and suddenly he's all about the team, but Callahan, who has spent 5 years playing like nothing matters to him more than his team winning, wants to get paid and now he's a selfish *****.

GWOW said:
Same here. Girardi is more senior and I don't see Hjalmarsson on the PP. Girardi is more versatile.
Click to expand...

Girardi shouldn't be on the PP. He's one (not the biggest) of the reasons the team's PP has been as bad as it has been prior to this season. I think Girardi is better than Hjalmarsson, but I'd rather have the latter, 26 years of age, at $4.1 mill than Girardi, 29, at $5.5 mill
 
BrianBoyle said:
Girardi over Hjalmarsson, but Hjalmarsson is really good.
Click to expand...

Hjalmarsson is very underrated.. not shocked when Hawks matched the Sharks offer as an RFA a few years back.... he will be in demand. maybe Hawks resign him.. i can see that happening too..
 
Now don't get me wrong, I'm still not high on Kesler.. but a Kreider-Kesler-Nash line could be a ***** to play against.
 
NYR Sting said:
He's been an underwhelming scorer, not performer, just as the rest of his team has been. The team that has consistently lacked offensive talent and has asked Callahan to do far more than he ever should have been asked to do. And he may not have made it to the playoffs healthy every time, but the Rangers wouldn't have made the playoffs without him.



He's the second most important Ranger of the last 15 years. He's an EXCELLENT role player, and scoring has very little to do with what makes him a great player. How you know what sort of leader he is is beyond me. You're not in the room. Based on what we as fans see, one can only assume that he's an incredible leader, since he's spent the vast majority of his career outworking other players on the ice, being an exemplary professional, and sacrificing his well-being for the good of the team. Doing anything he can within his ability (and often times more) to help his team win.

Girardi takes a slight discount and suddenly he's all about the team, but Callahan, who has spent 5 years playing like nothing matters to him more than his team winning, wants to get paid and now he's a selfish *****.



Girardi shouldn't be on the PP. He's one (not the biggest) of the reasons the team's PP has been as bad as it has been prior to this season. I think Girardi is better than Hjalmarsson, but I'd rather have the latter, 26 years of age, at $4.1 mill than Girardi, 29, at $5.5 mill
Click to expand...

Sting, Cally is one of my favorite forwards, but you are just over the top hyperbolic in all of this. The second most important Ranger over the last 15 years!? Lundqvist, Staal, McDonagh, Girardi, Jagr, Gaborik--ring any bells? And those are just the guys who are clear-cut more important. There's a slew of guys you can debate (including one who contributed all the things Cally does, while also winning draws, fighting, and out-producing him in all but one year-- :) ).

You are correct that Cally is an excellent role player. You are correct that he is not a selfish whatever for wanting what the market will pay him. Where you are incorrect is this notion that the Rangers should be the team to pay it to him. As any Rangers' fan should know, there is a difference between what a player can get and what a player is worth. Role players on the decline don't get 6+ million dollars on the long term.

Callahan's production rate has gone down each year since he signed his CURRENT contract (check it--his best year, production rate-wise, was the year before he signed his current deal). On top of that, the cap is actually LOWER now than it was when he signed his current deal. He hasn't lived up to the cap number he has right now, and he's asking for a big raise? Great. Someone will pay it to him. It shouldn't be us.

Even though they play different positions, the best parallel I can think of for Callahan is Redden. The warning signs were there for everyone to see. The regression pattern was obvious for anyone who looked at it. Both players will get big contracts based on reputation and a hope that the trend reverses. I love Cally. Always will. I don't want him to be the next Redden-type contract on this team. If he wants that money, then he should go get it somewhere else and let us remember him as the player he's been, rather that the detriment he would be at that new cap hit.
 
Why are we comparing Hjalmarsson's contract and Girardi's contract? It's ironic because if anybody other than Rangerboy posted a comparison RB would be saying "One guy signed a RFA offer sheet the other signed contract heading into UFA"
 
RGY said:
Kenjets and i get along now but we had our feud over Girardi in the beginning of the season...

KJ, guess Girardi isnt going anywhere after all haha
Click to expand...

Lol that feud. I'm actually really happy he resigned and even happier at that term.

I'm sure you're even happier, you had to convince me on him a little bit.

Now time to see what's up w Cally and stralman.

I have a feeling boomers right on both returns. MSL and vatanan and I assume the latter comes from Stralsy.

Cheers on G buddy.
 
Rust Heisenberg said:
Lol that feud. I'm actually really happy he resigned and even happier at that term.

I'm sure you're even happier, you had to convince me on him a little bit.

Now time to see what's up w Cally and stralman.

I have a feeling boomers right on both returns. MSL and vatanan and I assume the latter comes from Stralsy.

Cheers on G buddy.
Click to expand...

Ha not trying to get you to eat crow. Like you said, it is a good deal for steady homegrown defenseman.

Eh I doubt you can get Vatanen for Stralsy. It'd be great if you could but I doubt it. He had a good olympics. We, rangers fans, know the year Stralman has had but I doubt ANA fans see him that way and probably wont want to give Vatanen up. (Not that their fans have the final say)

I hope MSL is the end result of all the Callahan stuff, whether it is direct or through a 3rd team
 
Son of Steinbrenner said:
Why are we comparing Hjalmarsson's contract and Girardi's contract? It's ironic because if anybody other than Rangerboy posted a comparison RB would be saying "One guy signed a RFA offer sheet the other signed contract heading into UFA"
Click to expand...

Doesn't the Hjalmarsson contract for 4.1 start next season? He would have been a UFA after this season.
 
Son of Steinbrenner said:
Why are we comparing Hjalmarsson's contract and Girardi's contract? It's ironic because if anybody other than Rangerboy posted a comparison RB would be saying "One guy signed a RFA offer sheet the other signed contract heading into UFA"
Click to expand...

Because in the end, no matter what, some people will just do what they have to do to show everyone how smart they are.
 
Does anyone know if Stralman can play the left side? If McIlrath is ready next year, it might be worth trying McD/G, Staal/Klein, Stral/McI.

I'm sure Sather intends to hardball Strals a bit on the contract. He's now in a spot where the top pair RD is locked up, the 3rd pair RD can move up without missing a beat (Klein), and one of the top prospects is also a RD. Sather has no reason to break the bank on Stralman (who, for the record, I hope stays--hence the LD question).
 
RGY said:
Who the hell said that?
Click to expand...

The gap remains substantial between the parties, with Callahan still asking for seven years at more than $6.5 million per and the Rangers offering five years at $6 million a year for a difference of more than $15 million, but the Blueshirts may be willing to add a season at their number in order to close the deal.

If Callahan insists on seven years (and/or appreciably more than $6 million per), the Rangers would trade the winger. Tampa Bay would be a possible destination in a swap for Martin St. Louis, the Blueshirts likely adding a sweetener to the pot if necessary to get it done.

The preference, though, is to keep Callahan, just as it all along was to keep Girardi.

One down. One to go.
Click to expand...

http://nypost.com/2014/02/28/girardi-rangers-agree-on-six-year-extension-worth-33m/
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Top Bottom