Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXIII: Getcha' pitchforks ready.

[The Lunatic Fridge]

Staal has been playing amazing since coming back from injury. Sather must have inherited staal's last concussion if he's thinking about trading him.

 

[SupersonicMonkey*]

If Callahan is 99% being traded...how the hell can they risk him getting injured before the deadline? REALLY playing with fire.

I'm in.

EDIT: quoted the wrong one, i meant im in with pitch forks outside of MSG.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

The reason I think the guy mentioned Staal is because their contract lengths are similar. Someone like Staal. Doesn't mean Rangers will bite.

Staal is arguably our best defender on his best night...

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Staal has been playing amazing since coming back from injury. Sather must have inherited staal's last concussion if he's thinking about trading him.

Yea i've heard concussions are contagious. Just avoid anyone who tries to headbutt you and I think you'll be fine. That's how they pass it off.

 

[Crease]

Staal, Dubinsky and Callahan ushered in a new era following the dark years. Business aside, I'd really like for one of them to remain a career Ranger.

 

[SupersonicMonkey*]

Staal has been playing amazing since coming back from injury. Sather must have inherited staal's last concussion if he's thinking about trading him.

He's never not injured, though.

He's already had another concussion this season, he couldn't practice with the club this week because of "back spasms"...the bionic eye...

This guy is damaged. He's an amazing player when healthy...but he's injured so often its insane.

 

[Son of Steinbrenner]

See SoS' post on the last page. It was speculation from a Tampa fan, nothing more. Didn't mean to torpedo the thread, just had to throw that out there.

I did not mean to torpedo the thread. I just posted something somebody told me at a baseball game. That's it. The guy wasn't your run of the mill idiot. Everyone of us has talked to a fan that is clearly talking out of his ass. This guy was a real fan of the Lightning. I think he really believed what he was telling me. This fan was knowledgeable...

We talked at a preseason game. I was wearing a Ranger t-shirt and he had on a Lightning t-shirt. He was clearly friends with the Florida State coaching staff but I don't think that gives him credibility. I'm just trying to say the guy didn't seem like somebody talking out of his ass.

I told him I didn't think the Rangers would make that trade and he said he didn't think Tampa would make that trade but that's the deal he heard was being discussed.

I'm just a regular schmuck who was posting a non-rumor from somebody I met a baseball game. I probably shouldn't have even posted it but I was curious if anybody thought this rumor had any creditability. I'm not vouching for the guy, I don't know him, I don't know his name, We talked more about Florida State baseball then we did hockey.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Thanks for passing it along SOS. It's sure worth discussing if the source doesn't seem like he's making **** up. If MSL really requested a trade, that would be an awesome haul for Tampa. Salo is old and injury prone. As has been mentioned, if we give them Staal, I want Carle or Gudas, even if Salo had that big right handed point shot.

 

[LGBlues]

Has anyone seen what Blues fans think about Stewart? Words like enigma and lazy are very often used to describe him. I think they would know; they watch his every game. He is not like Callahan. Don't let his big frame fool you.

Here is one fan's opinion who has watched almost all of his games as a Blue. He was the Blues leading scorer last year. He is still expected to be a protector / enforcer for lesser players as a scorer. He was asked in the playoffs to achieve a 0 plus / minus. That is, to negate the other team as much as score, and when he did that, fans complained about his lack of scoring. When he is on, he is a dynamic scorer, when he is not, he looks lost - not lazy. He possibly is having a hard time in St. Louis figuring out what his role is which may not be the case in NY. He is inconsistent except for sticking up for teammates he always does that. On the negative side, he had some troubles with Colorado too, don't know exactly what but they felt they had to move him - so this will be his second "new setting" in a relatively short span of time.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

In my opinion, I think Callahan is doing the absolute wrong thing.

He's made what, 20 mill during his career so far? He was being offered 30 more? Maybe 35 if the Rangers caved for 6 years?

That makes a total of 55 mill for 10-11 years? He also gets his jersey retired and a position anywhere he wants in the Rangers F.O after he retires (besides probably GM).

He would get a viable chance of winning a cup along with staying in one of the greatest and most storied cities in the US.

Instead - he has his choice of bottom feeder for 7 years and of course, 14 extra million dollars (which is astounding).

The argument I'm making is, is the 14 extra million dollars that catapult you from 55 million to 69 million, really worth relocating your family to a likely ****** city to play hockey on a ****** team and retire without likely ever winning anything?

 

[Crease]

Another B-lister to hang our hopes on.

 

[aufheben]

There's no way he'd get his jersey retired unless he Conn Smythe'd a Cup run. The other side: he has the chance to play much closer to home for more money, and honestly, the Sabres might be a good team soon. $14,000,000 is an insane amount of money to leave on the table.

The Sabres have the #2 prospect pool in the NHL, you really think they're gonna be a basement team for the next 7 years? If they keep Miller they could be a playoff team sooner rather than later. Actually sounds like a perfect time to join their team, from the ground up. Grow together. How it's supposed to be done.

I don't know about you guys, but I have almost no faith in Sather putting together a Cup team before Hank's play starts to dip. You think Callahan knows less than us?

So Callahan should stay here, not go closer to home, not make $14,000,000, because "Anything can happen"?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

In my opinion, I think Callahan is doing the absolute wrong thing.

He's made what, 20 mill during his career so far? He was being offered 30 more? Maybe 35 if the Rangers caved for 6 years?

That makes a total of 55 mill for 10-11 years? He also gets his jersey retired and a position anywhere he wants in the Rangers F.O after he retires (besides probably GM).

He would get a viable chance of winning a cup along with staying in one of the greatest and most storied cities in the US.

Instead - he has his choice of bottom feeder for 7 years and of course, 14 extra million dollars (which is astounding).

The argument I'm making is, is the 14 extra million dollars that catapult you from 55 million to 69 million, really worth relocating your family to a likely ****** city to play hockey on a ****** team and retire without likely ever winning anything?

14 million dollars is a lot of money and he's from the Buffalo area (well sort of).

 

[Doctyl]

He's never not injured, though.

He's already had another concussion this season, he couldn't practice with the club this week because of "back spasms"...the bionic eye...

This guy is damaged. He's an amazing player when healthy...but he's injured so often its insane.

We get it you're incredibly pessimistic about Staal. The eye thing was a complete fluke and shouldn't be used against him at all because he's come back from it. Concussions are an issue but you just have to hope they don't come back. He may never have another one for all we know. You can't just trade away every player who gets injured claiming they're damaged get rid of them.

 

[pld459666]

if by cheap you mean we trade a 3rd for Hemsky AND a 2nd? then yeah.

other wise, pass.

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

In my opinion, I think Callahan is doing the absolute wrong thing.

He's made what, 20 mill during his career so far? He was being offered 30 more? Maybe 35 if the Rangers caved for 6 years?

That makes a total of 55 mill for 10-11 years? He also gets his jersey retired and a position anywhere he wants in the Rangers F.O after he retires (besides probably GM).

He would get a viable chance of winning a cup along with staying in one of the greatest and most storied cities in the US.

Instead - he has his choice of bottom feeder for 7 years and of course, 14 extra million dollars (which is astounding).

The argument I'm making is, is the 14 extra million dollars that catapult you from 55 million to 69 million, really worth relocating your family to a likely ****** city to play hockey on a ****** team and retire without likely ever winning anything?

Two words...money talks

 

[Boom Boom Geoffrion*]

If Callahan is 99% being traded...how the hell can they risk him getting injured before the deadline? REALLY playing with fire.

Playing with fire is nothing new with our management. Thats why Beaver is still a Ranger.

 

[aufheben]

I would personally make Girardi the Captain. He's a warrior. McDonagh isn't ready IMO. Honestly, I'd probably rather see McDonagh as a Leetch with the Alternate. Who knows though, he could make a great captain. Not sure if I see it yet though.

 

[Savant]

No.

Hemsky is made out of glass and is obsolete without a center that can score.

 

[pld459666]

I have no problems with guys looking to get as much as they can.

I also have no problems trading those that are looking for more than they are worth.

see ya Callahan, Girardi and I would have traded Hank as well.

Still think we have our Goalie 750k per more than he was worth.

 

[AHB*]

In my opinion, I think Callahan is doing the absolute wrong thing.

He's made what, 20 mill during his career so far? He was being offered 30 more? Maybe 35 if the Rangers caved for 6 years?

That makes a total of 55 mill for 10-11 years? He also gets his jersey retired and a position anywhere he wants in the Rangers F.O after he retires (besides probably GM).

He would get a viable chance of winning a cup along with staying in one of the greatest and most storied cities in the US.

Instead - he has his choice of bottom feeder for 7 years and of course, 14 extra million dollars (which is astounding).

The argument I'm making is, is the 14 extra million dollars that catapult you from 55 million to 69 million, really worth relocating your family to a likely ****** city to play hockey on a ****** team and retire without likely ever winning anything?

It's amazing to me that people have trouble comprehending that just because athletes make millions of dollars, doesn't mean an extra 14 million isn't a lot to them.

That's a boatload of money, especially for someone who's "career" isn't like the average human being. Is he going to be in the poorhouse ever, no, but I'm sure you wouldn't leave 14 million on the table either.

We grew up rooting for the Rangers, maybe it's different from our perspective because the majority of us would kill to do that for a career. Things change when that actually BECOMES your career.

It's a business. I'll love Cally forever. He's given 110% every single day he's been a Ranger. If he can get that type of money elsewhere, all the power to him.

People seem to feel slighted by the fact that a guy wants a raise. I'm sure if anyone was offered 20% more per year, they'd go running for it. I know i would, regardless of how much i "liked" my current job.

 

[EpicDing]

It's amazing to me that people have trouble comprehending that just because athletes make millions of dollars, doesn't mean an extra 14 million isn't a lot to them.

That's a boatload of money, especially for someone who's "career" isn't like the average human being. Is he going to be in the poorhouse ever, no, but I'm sure you wouldn't leave 14 million on the table either.

We grew up rooting for the Rangers, maybe it's different from our perspective because the majority of us would kill to do that for a career. Things change when that actually BECOMES your career.

It's a business. I'll love Cally forever. He's given 110% every single day he's been a Ranger. If he can get that type of money elsewhere, all the power to him.

People seem to feel slighted by the fact that a guy wants a raise. I'm sure if anyone was offered 20% more per year, they'd go running for it. I know i would, regardless of how much i "liked" my current job.

This. I'll still wear my Callahan jersey with pride once he's gone. Been my favorite player for a long time, and will continue to be one of my favorites. More power to him if he can get a pay day.

 

[NYR Sting]

There's no way he'd get his jersey retired unless he Conn Smythe'd a Cup run. The other side: he has the chance to play much closer to home for more money, and honestly, the Sabres might be a good team soon. $14,000,000 is an insane amount of money to leave on the table.

The Sabres have the #2 prospect pool in the NHL, you really think they're gonna be a basement team for the next 7 years? If they keep Miller they could be a playoff team sooner rather than later. Actually sounds like a perfect time to join their team, from the ground up. Grow together. How it's supposed to be done.

I don't know about you guys, but I have almost no faith in Sather putting together a Cup team before Hank's play starts to dip. You think Callahan knows less than us?

So Callahan should stay here, not go closer to home, not make $14,000,000, because "Anything can happen"?

If he were to spend his entire career here, or the bulk of it, I think it would be a possibility. As of today, he's the second most important Ranger of the last 15 years, AINEC in my opinion. That's not to say that I don't think Staal and Girardi haven't been very good Rangers. I just don't think they were as good for as long and as consistently as Callahan has been, and he's a model professional. He's everything that nearly every notable player to suit up for the Rangers during the past 15 years hasn't been. Unlike some people, I don't think Callahan is done, nor will he be done anytime soon.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Callahan is really getting overrated something fierce. The guy has been a good 2nd liner for us at best. Staal is one of the best defensive D in the league.

 

[nevesis]

Callahan being gone won't matter because he's not a very good hockey player. Always been extremely overrated by the fan base.