Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XX: Let's make it to XXX!

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MSL makes sense if Tampa thinks they can re-sign him. They have a young core and this isn't really their year. Callahan can help them for longer than MSL.

Granted, this relies on their ability to keep him.

MaxPac makes no sense as he is younger than Cally, bigger than Cally, and better than Cally. Montreal wants to get bigger, not smaller.

MSL is last year's leading scorer and a potential Hart trophy candidate this year. Aside from the fact it would be a public relations disaster in Tampa, and therefore veto'd by owner Jeff Vinik, if Tampa WERE going to shop St. Louis, they'd make it public and start a bidding war. And they'd get a lot more than Callahan for him (from, say, LA).

The line of thinking that supports the MSL theory doesn't take Tampa Bay's side of the equation into the consideration at all. Makes 0 sense for Tampa under any circumstances other than St. Louis saying, "I demand you trade me specifically to the New York Rangers."

Wishful thinking.
 
Why would the Habs trade Pacioretty?

Buffalo makes the most sense. They have an outstanding crop of youngsters and want them developed in the right environment under the right leadership. They had a ton of issues with guys like Erhoff and Leino who wrre signed to huge bucks and were lazy.

There is still talent in Buffalo. They can acquire Callahan and pay him what he wants. Callahan can retire a Sabre.

You're missing the part where Boomer talks about the return being an upgrade on the 1st line, as well as being more offensively oriented.
 
Why would MSL be so bad? He is showing no signs of slowing down and we will get at least 1.5 years out of him, probably more if we maintain a good team which we should. A lot better than Tuomo Ruutu or Chris freaking Stewart!

Because any deal that this team makes should be in the direction of building a consistent contender. It is missing the key pieces of a true #1C and a PMD. Acquiring MSL doesn't help with that and only props this team up a bit for the next couple of years. Hell, it doesn't help as much as it would if he played any position other than RW! (And goal.) As I've said ad infinitum, we should either be dealing for candidates to fill those roles directly (if they're available, which is unlikely) or building blocks that can eventually get to those players, either through the draft or subsequent trades.

Why can't this organization FOR ONCE, make the move that shows patience and long-term vision?
 
MSL is last year's leading scorer and a potential Hart trophy candidate this year. Aside from the fact it would be a public relations disaster in Tampa, and therefore veto'd by owner Jeff Vinik, if Tampa WERE going to shop St. Louis, they'd make it public and start a bidding war. And they'd get a lot more than Callahan for him (from, say, LA).

The line of thinking that supports the MSL theory doesn't take Tampa Bay's side of the equation into the consideration at all. Makes 0 sense for Tampa under any circumstances other than St. Louis saying, "I demand you trade me specifically to the New York Rangers."

Wishful thinking.

My thoughts exactly...a player like MSL leaving TB? There would have to be a big falling out.

As for Pacioretty, there were already rumors earlier in the year that he could be made available, as well as some recent talk that the Canadiens might be looking to shake up the locker room.
 
I'm not buying any of this stuff boomer is saying. It seems like he's just enjoying twitter attention
 
Many more people would complain about an MSL return, as evidenced in this thread. All signs point to MSL logically, imo.

Boomer hinted that the trade would make for "good debate" "tears and joy at the same time" "some would be upset at first"

MSL would fit that bill, but I don't see Tampa doing that.
 
MSL is last year's leading scorer and a potential Hart trophy candidate this year. Aside from the fact it would be a public relations disaster in Tampa, and therefore veto'd by owner Jeff Vinik, if Tampa WERE going to shop St. Louis, they'd make it public and start a bidding war. And they'd get a lot more than Callahan for him (from, say, LA).

The line of thinking that supports the MSL theory doesn't take Tampa Bay's side of the equation into the consideration at all. Makes 0 sense for Tampa under any circumstances other than St. Louis saying, "I demand you trade me specifically to the New York Rangers."

Wishful thinking.

Agreed its wishful thinking but to play Devils Advocate, possibly he wants to try and go for a run in NY. If you win a Cup in NY you are 100% legendary. He gets a shot to go after it again with Richards. Provides the offense we need. Its not that far out of the realm. Plus he's closer to home where Im sure much of his family resides. Finishes out his years close to home and playing in NY (which is a large attraction, especially for those on the back of their careers).
 
I don't disagree with this:
Why would the Habs trade Pacioretty?

Buffalo makes the most sense. They have an outstanding crop of youngsters and want them developed in the right environment under the right leadership. They had a ton of issues with guys like Erhoff and Leino who wrre signed to huge bucks and were lazy.

There is still talent in Buffalo. They can acquire Callahan and pay him what he wants. Callahan can retire a Sabre.
Or this:
MSL is last year's leading scorer and a potential Hart trophy candidate this year. Aside from the fact it would be a public relations disaster in Tampa, and therefore veto'd by owner Jeff Vinik, if Tampa WERE going to shop St. Louis, they'd make it public and start a bidding war. And they'd get a lot more than Callahan for him (from, say, LA).

The line of thinking that supports the MSL theory doesn't take Tampa Bay's side of the equation into the consideration at all. Makes 0 sense for Tampa under any circumstances other than St. Louis saying, "I demand you trade me specifically to the New York Rangers."

Wishful thinking.

Unfortunately, despite the sense you all make, Boomer's tweets really do seem to be pointing towards MSL.

It may just be the "I want to go to NYC" scenario DFC has laid out.
 
He's already broken stories before.

He's also specifically say it's facts he's gotten & not a joke.

He had something to do with the Klein trade right? I want to believe him but I'm doubtful that all of a sudden a huge bidding war broke out for Cally that someone is offering a 1st liner for him.
 
I don't like the idea of trading Callahan for such a short-term asset like MSL. I know Callahan is a rental but I don't think this team is an MSL minus Callahan away from going on a Cup run.
 
Rene Bourque is more of a likely return than Max Pacioretty, at least from a Habs standpoint. But he has massive injury concerns and i think Sather learned his lesson with Clowe.
 
I don't like the idea of trading Callahan for such a short-term asset like MSL. I know Callahan is a rental but I don't think this team is an MSL minus Callahan away from going on a Cup run.

Well Cally isn't coming back next season. If we could get MSL for him even for a little while I think it's better than letting him leave
 
I don't like the idea of trading Callahan for such a short-term asset like MSL. I know Callahan is a rental but I don't think this team is an MSL minus Callahan away from going on a Cup run.

MSL has shown no indication that he can't play to 41-42-43 years of age. He wouldn't score as much here as with Stamkos, but he is a fitness freak, which is usually associated with long careers.
 
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