1) We are strong on the right side, and now with Klein stabilizing Moore a bit, we're strong on the left side as well. Even if we were weak on the Right side, I don't see how trading a solid, veteran right-handed RD makes sense, at least to me.
I don't think we're strong on the right side still. The 3rd pairing is deficient and Girardi's game has slowed down. Thank god for Stralman.
2) "He's dragged down the play of his linemates for years." He's literally been doing the opposite of that as a Ranger. Nashville fans were livid to see this guy go, and some guys on this board talk about him like he's a 6th defensemen. The guy hasn't even had a realistic amount of time to adjust to AV's system. He's a pretty tough, right-handed, good skating RD on a nice contract. Yeah, let's trade him. He's just what this defense needed. (Obviously an offensive/PMD type is and has been our need for years)
But he isn't what the team exactly needs, as mentioned in your last sentence. It would've been a better decision to go after that PMD like Boyle. Klein is a great PKer, but I think it was terrible asset management on the part of Sather and Gorton once again to give MDZ for a dime-a-dozen piece.
Also, if we're trading Callahan for Dan Boyle (are Sharks fans even in support of this trade?) why would we trade Klein instead of Girardi? He's UFA and could fetch us nice assets. I know you and Blue Blooded love Stralman, but feel free to search my post history, I'm a big a Stralman fan as anyone.
Why would we trade Klein instead of Girardi? Wow, is this even a legitimate question?
One player is a top pairing defender, the other is a bottom pair defender.
If management does think the same way (wouldn't put it past Sather for his 14 yr resume), it would seem that they're intent on intentionally losing this season.
I think Stralman and Girardi should be resigned. But trading our only RHD/RD under contract (a nice contract at that) is....bonkers, IMO.
Which is why I feel it's a necessity to re-sign both. I still think it is, but fortunately there are some options in FA this year to target defenders if we happen to lose one.
Plus, Dan Boyle is a UFA this summer, and the guy is ****ing 37. We're gonna trade our only RD under contract, and go into the offseason with the entire Right Side of our defense up for new, expensive contracts (one player being ancient). Yeah, sounds like the beginning of a great offseason.
Sure, but you have to take into account that Boyle will take a legitimate discount. Stralman should make around 4.0m and Girardi 5.5m. We also assume that Callahan is replaced with a cheap filler UFA like Stempniak or even recall JT Miller to play a 3rd line, PK role. I think the numbers will work themselves out.
Why watch him when you could look up his advanced stats from past seasons?
Because it gives a telling tale on how the player performs and how their linemates perform. For Klein, he's been pretty dreadful.
Klein is going to be our replacement for Sauer, his veteran experience is an added bonus. I am 100% against trading Klein. What kind of value are we going to get for a defensemen who's only been with us for 1/10th of the season? I don't know, but I can't imagine that somehow raises his value in any way.
Yup. Oh well, only 5 more years of his contract to swallow.
Sorry if I've misunderstood, but something about Nashville fan's lividness at his departure combined with these allegations about his play, which seem to be based heavily, if not entirely, on advanced statistics, doesn't sit well with me. The reality is he's probably somewhere in the middle, which is fine with me. I love Sauer/Klein typie defensemen, and am already seeing the positive effects of this trade. This discussion has me wondering how Klein would look with Staal, and subsequently Moore-Stalman. Staal-Stralman is a great pairing, so I don't see this happening anytime soon, but it would be interesting.
Fans will tell you a lot of things. Brandon Dubinsky was a no-good overpaid 3rd line player who sucks. Jed Ortmeyer was the heart-and-soul of the Rangers.
