Speculation: Trade / Roster Speculation Thread XXXIV: Over the edge of being a little closer.

[AHB*]

lol how is allen suddenly as good as john moore? john moore is probably younger than conor allen and moore is a full time NHLer and capable player to log 15 minutes in the playoffs. john moore should become a very solid mid pairing dman for a long time.

Allen isn't better then Moore, but I personally prefer consistency. I'd rather not disrupt a solid pairing in Klein and Moore who have learned to play together. Leave them be, try Allen and/or Diaz with Staal. See how it goes.

If it doesn't work, change things up.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Alright I'm calling it now slats is gunna trade for Kris Letang or Erik karlsson and play them on the 2nd pairing... *waits 10 yrs when players are in their late 30s and the trade actually happens*

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Alright I'm calling it now slats is gunna trade for Kris Letang or Erik karlsson and play them on the 2nd pairing... *waits 10 yrs when players are in their late 30s and the trade actually happens*

Letang could definitely be moved this offseason.

Maybe something crazy like Nash for Letang lol

I'd be down with that, but I'm biased as ****. I love Letang.

 

[Trxjw]

Letang is going to be a huge flop wherever he ends up, IMO. Also, despite his inconsistency, I sure as hell wouldn't want to put Nash on Crosby's wing.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Letang could definitely be moved this offseason.

Maybe something crazy like Nash for Letang lol

I'd be down with that, but I'm biased as ****. I love Letang.

Nash would score 60 with Crosby and we'd all be *****ing about it.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Letang is going to be a huge flop wherever he ends up, IMO. Also, despite his inconsistency, I sure as hell wouldn't want to put Nash on Crosby's wing.

Why? Letang is flawed, but he's incredibly skilled and athletic. I'd be shocked if he weren't a consistent offensive weapon from the blueline. The only thing I could see holding him back is his stroke.

Nash would score 60 with Crosby and we'd all be *****ing about it.

In all seriousness, I think he'd just stay what he: an inconsistent first line winger.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Why? Letang is flawed, but he's incredibly skilled and athletic. I'd be shocked if he weren't a consistent offensive weapon from the blueline. The only thing I could see holding him back is his stroke.



In all seriousness, I think he'd just stay what he: an inconsistent first line winger.

I think you're downplaying how good Nash can be if he had a center that could give him some space. Crosby is not only that, hes the best center of this generation.

Hes also a pretty big reason why you think Letang is a good option.

 

[Trxjw]

Why? Letang is flawed, but he's incredibly skilled and athletic. I'd be shocked if he weren't a consistent offensive weapon from the blueline. The only thing I could see holding him back is his stroke.

He is certainly incredibly skilled and athletic, but he's not a particularly bright hockey player. He's also been able to ride the coattails of two of the top players in the league for most of his career. He was expected to take over the role that Gonchar left, but he's been unable to do so. He's more of a passenger than driving force, IMO.

The stroke was probably a one time deal. It's the lower body and concussion issues that worry me more than that.

To top it off, he's also a selfish player on the ice, and kind of a dick off of it.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I think you're downplaying how good Nash can be if he had a center that could give him a space. Crosby is not only that, hes the best center of this generation.

Hes also a pretty big reason why you think Letang is a good option.

That's a good point about Nash in space. Didn't think of that. That being said, Nash is not a high level finisher, so I really don't think he'd "break out" with Crosby or anything. Also, the concussion issues still linger, I'd say.

Was more of an off the wall suggestion that anything. Probably not a good move for either team, could bite either of them in the ass.

Regarding Crosby and Letang; yeah, Crosby might help inflate Letang's point totals a bit, but he's definitely a very good offensive D regardless of whether he has Crosby in front of him or not, IMO. Guy's highly skilled and a phenomenal skater. I think he'd form a ridiculous pairing with McD.

 

[LeetchisGod]

That's a good point about Nash in space. Didn't think of that. That being said, Nash is not a high level finisher, so I really don't think he'd "break out" with Crosby or anything. Also, the concussion issues still linger, I'd say.

Was more of an off the wall suggestion that anything. Probably not a good move for either team, could bite either of them in the ass.

Regarding Crosby and Letang; yeah, Crosby might help inflate Letang's point totals a bit, but he's definitely a very good offensive D regardless of whether he has Crosby in front of him or not, IMO. Guy's highly skilled and a phenomenal skater. I think he'd form a ridiculous pairing with McD.

I'd prefer to put him with Staal. That way we'd have our two puckmovers on different pairings. Letang with McD would mean one of them would have to play safe. Not ideal. Staal should be playing safe since he's an abomination in the offensive zone.

 

[TheTakedown]

Alright I'm calling it now slats is gunna trade for Kris Letang or Erik karlsson and play them on the 2nd pairing... *waits 10 yrs when players are in their late 30s and the trade actually happens*

I like Letang too, but his caphit is a monstrosity... You'd have to sacrifice a piece of the mere forward depth we have right now in order to allow Letang to fit here... Stralman only makes 1.7M, and Letangs cap hit as of next season 5M on top of what we pay stralman

 

[Ola]

So 4< more games for Richards to get hurt in...

 

[Ola]

wait...... conor allen is wayyyyyyyy better bro.

and allen is 24 so you are correct. moore is 23.

john moore is the new whipping boy. the more invisible he is, the better he plays defensively.

sometimes i think im the only one who actually thinks hes a pretty decent player. great skating stride and a guy who seems more willing to push the puck every time he plays.

I've been far from Moore's biggest fans, but I think he has been solid lately. Decent top 6 now who only will get better.

 

[Ola]

Another thought, I think Zucc looking at the entire POs has been our best forward this year. He is top 5 in the league among forwards in blocked shots, take aways, he is constantly creating offense on the ice, PKing some, playing PP.

The kid is only 26 y/o. He has on a year by year basis improved -- a lot -- over the last 8 years. If there is any player that ever becomes really good in this league, besides the AOs, Crosbys, and co, its guys that just never stops developing.

Lock him up long-term!!!!

 

[Ola]

What's ironic in that in past years, the 4th line of other teams always killed us. Tonight, our amazing 4th line this season won us this game, and we're now in the finals.

That fourth line is great, need to resign those guys

I don't disagree, I do however think that the same thing litterary can be said of every single player on this team.

Klein and Moore probably being the easiest to replace, short term (but if we played without them long-term, our other Ds would have to play more and be worn out).

My point is just this, we gonna have to let players go that we can't afford to loose, if you get what I mean.

 

[TurgePurge*]

Unpopular opinion alert - Judging by the Habs board, Prust might have fallen out of favor there. I'd take him back if MTL was willing to eat maybe 750k or so. Especially if Boyle departs us and we have a 4th line hole.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Unpopular opinion alert - Judging by the Habs board, Prust might have fallen out of favor there. I'd take him back if MTL was willing to eat maybe 750k or so. Especially if Boyle departs us and we have a 4th line hole.

I think Prust is wearing down. He's a medium size guy who plays like a heavyweight. His injury problems are only going to get worse.

 

[Ian]

Moving away from plodders is a big reason why the 4th line in its current state is so successful as opposed to the past. Huge pass on Prust no matter what the discount.

 

[Oak]

Why? Letang is flawed, but he's incredibly skilled and athletic. I'd be shocked if he weren't a consistent offensive weapon from the blueline. The only thing I could see holding him back is his stroke.

I have to echo the negative Letang sentiment. I used to think he was awesome in 2011 but the more I watched that team the more I have seen him get exposed. The kid has a good shot but he is too sloppy and inconsistent on D. Add in his recent health and injury issues and I'd say no thanks to Letang.

 

[Raspewtin]

I think you're downplaying how good Nash can be if he had a center that could give him some space. Crosby is not only that, hes the best center of this generation.

Hes also a pretty big reason why you think Letang is a good option.

I personally think Nash would be better with Malkin than Crosby.

Bottom line is if we trade Nash it sure as hell better not be within this division.

He'd literally be Pittsburgh's missing piece.

 

[Inferno]

speed kills. Jesper Fasth is going to be a 4th liner going forward. a-la Korpedo.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Stock rising: Boyle
Stock falling: Pouliot

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Stock rising: Boyle
Stock falling: Pouliot

Pouliot takes some of the dumbest penalties I've ever seen.

Rangers got lucky he didn't get called for a high stick on Gionta before he ran into Lundqvist.

 

[Ruggs225]

Stock rising: Boyle
Stock falling: Pouliot

Yup. I don't think we should resign Pouliot at all. Let either Fast or Kristo compete for the spot (if Kristo is ready). Since Kristo is supposedly more of a finisher I think maybe that is what Brass and Zucc need on their line. Although Poo does great board work and is really good at puck possession. I'm just sick of his dumb penalties.

Boyle is going to be a tough resign I think. Other teams might just outbid him from us. We can't afford to pay too much for a 4th liner.

 

[Ruggs225]

Another thought. Maybe instead of resigning Poo, go after a guy like Mason Raymond. I wanted to get him last off-season as well.