Speculation: Trade / Roster Speculation Thread XXXIII: Clever Title Pending

[CommaSynapse]

Any deal that involves AO must include Brad Richards from a Rangers stand point.

To NYR - OVIE

To CAPS - B Richards + C Kreider + C Hagelin + D McIrath + M Staal + D BRASSARD + first round pick + cash (can you still trade money? is the limit 3mill?)

Caps obviously buy out Richards so the rest of the players in the package must justify trading OVIE.

Yeah thats a ton to give up. Would I do it? Maybe.

The only other way I see it happening is NASH + MCILRATH + KREIDER + PICK FOR OVIE.

I think AV would have a hell of a time with Ovi.

That said, if I was to trade for Ovi, my offer would probably be underwhelming. His cap hit is going to come into consideration.


Nash + McIlrath + Kristo + 1st. Maybe throw in a guy like St. Croix.

I'm not moving Kreider or Miller.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Any deal that involves AO must include Brad Richards from a Rangers stand point.

To NYR - OVIE

To CAPS - B Richards + C Kreider + C Hagelin + D McIrath + M Staal + D BRASSARD + first round pick + cash (can you still trade money? is the limit 3mill?)

Caps obviously buy out Richards so the rest of the players in the package must justify trading OVIE.

Yeah thats a ton to give up. Would I do it? Maybe.

The only other way I see it happening is NASH + MCILRATH + KREIDER + PICK FOR OVIE.

Bernmister, is this you?

 

[Mr Clutch]

I agree moving kreider or Miller would be a huge mistake. ..even if it was for ovechkin

 

[bernmeister]

Any deal that involves AO must include Brad Richards from a Rangers stand point.

To NYR - OVIE

To CAPS - B Richards + C Kreider + C Hagelin + D McIrath + M Staal + D BRASSARD + first round pick + cash (can you still trade money? is the limit 3mill?)

Caps obviously buy out Richards so the rest of the players in the package must justify trading OVIE.

Yeah thats a ton to give up. Would I do it? Maybe.

The only other way I see it happening is NASH + MCILRATH + KREIDER + PICK FOR OVIE.

While Ovechkin has undeniable upside, he has lots of downside.
Richards can't be traded due to risk of recapture penalty.

And no on a cornerstone like Kreider.
Idea would be to add Ovie to him, not swap

 

[bernmeister]

Bernmister, is this you?

1. Does not fit my mo.

2. brother GarretJoseph has what, 7,000+ posts?
What, did I just somehow 'borrow' his handle?

3. To be clear, no, not me

 

[Inferno]

I agree moving kreider or Miller would be a huge mistake. ..even if it was for ovechkin

lol. id drive them personally for AO.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

lol. id drive them personally for AO.

I wouldn't.

Sure, AO can score 50 goals, but what else does he offer besides that? Also, you just know if he comes here, that he'll end up declining like most superstars do once they put on the NYR jersey.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

1. Does not fit my mo.

2. brother GarretJoseph has what, 7,000+ posts?
What, did I just somehow 'borrow' his handle?

3. To be clear, no, not me

Good point. You sure he isn't related to you in some capacity?

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

I wouldn't.

Sure, AO can score 50 goals, but what else does he offer besides that? Also, you just know if he comes here, that he'll end up declining like most superstars do once they put on the NYR jersey.

You're acting like scoring 50 is no big deal. A potential Nash/Ovie swap with other pieces is intriguing. AO loves playing at MSG. The way AV trashed Miller I can see him dealt in a hypothetical deal. Adding AO to this team adds much needed lw depth, along with a rh shot that this team lacks. Picture it now MSL feeding AO on the power play. You put AO and MSL on a line, keep Brass Poo Zuke line, trade Hagelin and Moore for a young center.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

You're acting like scoring 50 is no big deal. A potential Nash/Ovie swap with other pieces is intriguing. AO loves playing at MSG. The way AV trashed Miller I can see him dealt in a hypothetical deal. Adding AO to this team adds much needed lw depth, along with a rh shot that this team lacks. Picture it now MSL feeding AO on the power play

Look, for the right price, I'd definitely bring AO in.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Look, for the right price, I'd definitely bring AO in.

Absolutely, sorry if I came off insulting it just seemed like you were saying 50 goals is so non chalant.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

AO would be luck to score 30 goals in NY.

 

[ImIdaho]

AO would be luck to score 30 goals in NY.

A down in the dumps Jagr revived his career in NY, along with Nylander and Straka. That line was a threat in the NHL.


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How about Nash + Hags + Prospect (Whoever) + 1st for AO?

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

A down in the dumps Jagr revived his career in NY, along with Nylander and Straka. That line was a threat in the NHL.


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How about Nash + Hags + Prospect (Whoever) + 1st for AO?

That I would probably do, although I'd hate giving up another 1st round pick.

 

[CommaSynapse]

A down in the dumps Jagr revived his career in NY, along with Nylander and Straka. That line was a threat in the NHL.


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How about Nash + Hags + Prospect (Whoever) + 1st for AO?

I'd probably do that. I'd hate to lose the first, but he'd be more physical than Nash, and he should still have some god years left in him.

We've done a decent job signing college FAs, so we'll just stay the course with that, I suppose. Fact of the matter is NY will always offer big money to UFAs, so prospects aren't as big of a problem for us. Of course, that's why we're stuck in a cycle of mediocrity, but that won't seriously change until, at least, Sather is out.

 

[Mr Clutch]

I'm not saying I wouldn't want ovechkin either but he's got a 9.5 mil cap hit and he doesn't even attempt to play defense. Granted, he is a 50 goal scorer but I just wouldn't be crazy about giving up our real young homegrown players for him. I would definitely so something centered around hagelin and Nash though.

 

[eco's bones]

We already did the multiple player deal for Nash and it's very arguable that we came out ahead on it. Now we're going to do a deal for Ovechkin with another batch of players including some of the best of our young and Ovechkin is not even as well rounded a player as Nash is and comes with a very high cap hit. In fact Ovechkin's only really competes in one half of the ice. Let's turn our team into the New York Crapitals. No thanks.

 

[zuckera1]

McIlrath + Hagelin + Miller + 1st for Alex Ovechkin

Sign me up.

 

[LeetchisGod]

McIlrath + Hagelin + Miller + 1st for Alex Ovechkin

Sign me up.

There's no way we could fit Ovi under the salary cap.

 

[Tawnos]

Sometimes it's hard to separate the player from the situation. I'm not sure that Ovechkin, coming into a situation where he's not the leader in the locker room and where there's already a sound defensive structure in place that he's not being asked to lead by example, would be as bad defensively as he's been.

It'd be a pretty big gamble that's the case though.

 

[The New Originals]

I'd wish for an AO8 trade just for the sheer entertainment value of it all. If you guys think Nash doesn't give it his all, wait'llyougetaloada'thisguy.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

He would be tht big bomb on the point of our power play... But looking at his +/- u have to remember tht pp goals don't effect it so he's actually a lot closer to even than wat it says

 

[Staxgod90]

I wish Jeff Carter wasn't signed to that abominable contract. The money isn't bad but I don't want him to be around when he is in his late 30's. If that weren't the case I would make a move for him.

 

[Minkus]

Devante Smith-Pelly with two goals tonight. I wonder if he could still be pried from Anaheim relatively cheaply for our bottom six. Something around John Moore maybe?

 

[Mikos87]

Devante Smith-Pelly with two goals tonight. I wonder if he could still be pried from Anaheim relatively cheaply for our bottom six. Something around John Moore maybe?

Doubt it but I brought his name up here a few months ago after seeing him in a couple AHL games live. There are some really good young players that I would dangle John Moore for simply because Conor Allen can seamlessly replace those minutes.

Another is Weal, out of LA's system. LA has a couple of players like him that are ahead of him, Toffoli, Vey, and Pearson. The Kings have pylons for LHD at the NHL level, and badly need defensemen.

The Kings gave up a prime power forward prospect for an NHL ready defender in Brayden McNabb, and McNabb's upside is not all that high, but he can contribute in the NHL next season.

J.Moore is a proven NHL player, and one that fits their need. Weal is a RH playmaking center with 2nd line upside.

DSP is going to be a very good player, a prototypical third liner that can chip in 30-35 points, and probably 15-20 goals. I would trade J.Moore in a hearbeat for DSP, but don't know if Anaheim has a need, or will bite since they have quite a few good LHD in Fowler, Beauchemen, Sbisa, Lindholm and Fistric. Beauchemen plays the right side, but Anaheim is pretty set on defense on the left. They need a veteran RHD that can skate.