Speculation: Trade / Roster Speculation Thread XXXIII: Clever Title Pending

[Inferno]

cant add a 6 mil player.....just too much money.

 

[Thirty One]

cant add a 6 mil player.....just too much money.

Money would definitely have to go out.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

cant add a 6 mil player.....just too much money.

If we add a 6m player, it has to be a forward. Our defense is set. Stop trying to fix what isn't broken.

 

[eco's bones]

Byfuglien fits a huge need, a right-handed shot that can just bomb it from the powerplay.

That said, I don't touch that trade proposal.

He fits and he doesn't fit. Big shot from the point helps the pwp for sure and he'd not afraid to use it--but he's not a very good defenseman. Has size and hits very well but is overweight and has almost never if not ever been in great condition. He's not exactly young anymore and has a big contract. His offense hasn't been enough to make a mediocre team into a playoff team. His defense is part of the problem.

The Rangers have other big needs as well. Like a legit 1st line center and comparatively speaking our defense corps is the least of our problems. No way I'd trade any serious prospects for this guy and I don't think I'd trade Hagelin either.

 

[Cassano]

Stralman has not very often got the assignments to shut down the league's best players. Those assignments have almost always in the last two-three years gone to McDonagh and Girardi. A shut down defenseman shuts down the other teams best players night after night. When a defense pair can keep the likes of Ovechkin, Malkin, Tavares, Crosby, Giroux etc. from being major factors in games played against for lengthy stretches of time then you know you have a shutdown d-man. The Rangers have 3 defensemen worthy of being called that when 100 % healthy--McDonagh, Staal, Girardi. Some teams don't have any. Stralman and Klein are both very good defenders but neither of them are on that level.

Stralman is pretty much regarded by AV as a shutdown defender, from a statistical standpoint, matchups wise and through personal preference:

“If for whatever reason they’re not out there, Marc Staal is a great defender also and he’s played top minutes against top players with Stralman on ‘D,’” Vigneault said. “So we’re very comfortable. We feel we’ve got two pairs there that can play against anybody.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/h...efense-serves-article-1.1759796#ixzz2zMDIkdPY

Collectively, Stralman and Staal can matchup against anyone, according to the head coach. Therefore he is a top tier shutdown defender.

 

[BroadwayHustle]

Stralman is pretty much regarded by AV as a shutdown defender, from a statistical standpoint, matchups wise and through personal preference:


Collectively, Stralman and Staal can matchup against anyone, according to the head coach. Therefore he is a top tier shutdown defender.

I think you saw it in game 1 when Staal moved onto the first pairing while McD got the rust off. Also, McD and Stralman still played against the top line at times during the first period too.

 

[eco's bones]

Stralman is pretty much regarded by AV as a shutdown defender, from a statistical standpoint, matchups wise and through personal preference:


Collectively, Stralman and Staal can matchup against anyone, according to the head coach. Therefore he is a top tier shutdown defender.

The way you parse things. Just about every more than casual Rangers fan knows that the toughest assignments night in and night out goes to the McDonagh-Girardi pairing. The AV quotation you cite pretty much emphasizes Staal as the key player in that pair. There is just that 'If' there.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

The Rangers have something that maybe 2 other teams in the league have 2 legit shutdown D-pairings.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The Rangers have something that maybe 2 other teams in the league have 2 legit shutdown D-pairings.

Boston and...?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Boston and...?

St. Louis? I was thinking more like Chicago and St. Louis. Without Seidenberg I don't think Boston is one of those teams.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Boston and...?

St Louis?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

St. Louis? I was thinking more like Chicago and St. Louis. Without Seidenberg I don't think Boston is one of those teams.

Well, the Chicago-St. Louis series is phenomenal

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Well, the Chicago-St. Louis series is phenomenal

Yeah, though I'm not sure it's because of the shutdown D.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

St Louis?

Their top pairing, yes, but they don't have a guy like Staal on their second pairing.

Chicago has Keith, Hjalmarsson, and Seabrook. I am not a Seabrook fan at all, but that comes somewhat close. Would still say our threesome is superior defensively.

 

[Leetch3]

cant add a 6 mil player.....just too much money.

if we buyout richards and the cap goes up by $6+ mil as expected then you can absolutely add a $6 mil player to replace richie if its the right guy

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

if we buyout richards and the cap goes up by $6+ mil as expected then you can absolutely add a $6 mil player to replace richie if its the right guy

It all depends on the length of the contract though.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

Given some moves the organization has made the last few years, I'm a little gun shy about moving picks and prospects, especially for a player like Big Buff. We have some solid players coming up, but there certainly isn't a Kreider or Stepan in the bunch. I'd only do it if we had a shot at another team's young stud forward or defenseman.

I also don't see how Richards is kept. I'm as happy as anyone that he's had a bounce back year, but between the dollar amount, and the possible cap recapture penalty, that contract could comeback to haunt the team for years.

I'd love Stastny, but looking at the Free Agent crop coming up, you just know a team desperate for a Center is going to give him a ridiculous contract. I'd really like to see the Team add some solid depth and toughness to the Bottom 6 in the off season.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

You think 7 years/42 mil (6 mil per) gets Stastny?

 

[NewLife]

You think 7 years/42 mil (6 mil per) gets Stastny?

No unless he really wants to be a Ranger. I'm kind of against going after Stastny since I'm quite sure he's going to cost to much to sign but that at $6m I'd go for it without even blink.

 

[AHB*]

No unless he really wants to be a Ranger. I'm kind of against going after Stastny since I'm quite sure he's going to cost to much to sign but that at $6m I'd go for it without even blink.

After the start to these playoffs, he might just stay in Colorado.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

After the start to these playoffs, he might just stay in Colorado.

If he's smart, he'd stay there. I would.

Only thing is if the Avs can afford him. They'll have to pay players like MacKinnon, Barrie, Landeskog, and Duchene in the future.

 

[AHB*]

If he's smart, he'd stay there. I would.

Only thing is if the Avs can afford him. They'll have to pay players like MacKinnon, Barrie, Landeskog, and Duchene in the future.

Will be interesting for sure. The Avs are going to be unstoppable.

 

[BroadwayBlues]

Unfortunately for the Rangers, it's either Richards albatross contract or Stastny possible albatross contract.

 

[Giglio NYR15]

Unfortunately for the Rangers, it's either Richards albatross contract or Stastny possible albatross contract.

And yea i guess thats the real logical way to look at it but id rather have stastny (28) signed 7yrs to 35 than richards signed 6 more yrs for 6.67 hit until hes 39. They are the same production, stastny prob will be a little better and richie will decline more and more. I just cant find 1 logical reason to keep richards at 6.67 per for 6 more yrs, thats alot. The question is can NYR get stastny here, hes already making 6+ mill, I dont think avs can afford him with all the guys there who need to get paid. I think youre going to have to at least offer 6.5 per/7 yrs to get stastny here, maybe even 7-7 if he keeps tearing playoffs up. But the richards contract will kill us but then again so will Nash's contract if he isnt AT LEAST a 30-30 guy next year with that cap hit.

 

[NYR Viper]

And yea i guess thats the real logical way to look at it but id rather have stastny (28) signed 7yrs to 35 than richards signed 6 more yrs for 6.67 hit until hes 39. They are the same production, stastny prob will be a little better and richie will decline more and more. I just cant find 1 logical reason to keep richards at 6.67 per for 6 more yrs, thats alot. The question is can NYR get stastny here, hes already making 6+ mill, I dont think avs can afford him with all the guys there who need to get paid. I think youre going to have to at least offer 6.5 per/7 yrs to get stastny here, maybe even 7-7 if he keeps tearing playoffs up. But the richards contract will kill us but then again so will Nash's contract if he isnt AT LEAST a 30-30 guy next year with that cap hit.

Why is signing Stastny the only option?