Speculation: Trade / Roster Speculation Thread XXXII: To Smurf or not to Smurf

[Ola]

The fact that the DRW still is contending for a PO spot is a mircle. No goalie, no defense and no depth. Hasn't developed any good players in like a decade or what, Filpulla was the last one. Maybe Tatar and Nyqvist will turn into something, but they have what combined less than 20-30 games in the NHL this year.

As to long contracts in general, how many long contracts are hurting their teams right now? Of what 40 signed, is it 2? 4?

There is a bunch of teams like LA, CHI and co that has a cap hit of like what 6m south of what they actually are paying their players. Have those team's cap be hit with the facevalue and they aren't contenders...

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

What?

There is two rookies on that roster, and JT Miller is hardly that fresh and Fast on the 4th line is put there to illustrate a cheap contract.

There is nothing wrong with a Diaz-Moore 3rd pairing.

And moving Hagelin is of course controversial and nothing that is sought after. However it's an option to retrieve picks -- something we have dealt a lot lately. That will comeback and haunt us if not something is done about it.

Fast, Lindberg, McIlrath and Miller - that's four. And yes, I include Miller. I agree that he's plenty ready for full-time duty, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a rookie and you're relying on him. If he was as rock-solid as you claim, he'd already have locked up a full-time gig in the NHL and he hasn't. Whether you consider them all rookies, is irrelevant - management clearly does.

There's plenty wrong with a Moore-Diaz 3rd pair. It's a significant downgrade from what we have now.

I don't necessarily have a problem with trading Hagelin, but your scenario forces you to do so. And that's after you've already made five previous moves all with the goal of squeezing out as much space as possible to fit BR.

Which is my point. Why on earth would you bend over backwards and force yourself into a total of SIX different roster decisions all in an effort to keep skates-in-mud, cap-recapture-time-bomb Brad Richards?

 

[Ola]

Brooklyn- I used some editor at capnerd. Needed to put in a 13th forward and 7th D. They represent next years Falk if you get what I mean.

It's one rookie and Millet on the ice, plus a cheap 13th forward and 7th D.

 

[Ola]

RB- Why don't you for the sake of fairness also point out that when I was against signing Brad Richards, you jumped at me posting stats of how Richards scored 90+ pts?

Isn't it fair to also point that out?

It's not like I often post a bunch of crap that later on at least turns out to be wrong (although it happens like with T Kaberle) and picks fights to pick fights. I was against getting BR to start with because he was very overrated and he had 60 pts written all over him.

I am not saying that we shouldn't buy out BR. But if this team and AV can show that it's close, it's a tough decision.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

RB- Why don't you for the sake of fairness also point out that when I was against signing Brad Richards, you jumped at me posting stats of how Richards scored 90+ pts?

Isn't it fair to also point that out?

It's not like I often post a bunch of crap that later on at least turns out to be wrong (although it happens like with T Kaberle) and picks fights to pick fights. I was against getting BR to start with because he was very overrated and he had 60 pts written all over him.

I am not saying that we shouldn't buy out BR. But if this team and AV can show that it's close, it's a tough decision.

Not sure what you mean, Ola. I don't remember jumping on you regarding the BR signing, but if you say I did, it's possible - I certainly admit I was in favor at the time (although I thought the price was a bit high) as I didn't see him falling off the cliff as fast as he has. However, it's not like I'm always on your case. Why, only this morning I gave you big-time kudos on your analysis of the kids in HFD, which I thought was absolutely, word-for-word, dead-on perfect.

I happen to disagree with you vehemently on a couple of recent big issues (re-signing Cally and retaining BR), and I've been particularly emphatic in debating them because IMO both could screw this team up against the cap. In this case, you painted a roster picture that I feel not only doesn't support your point, it further clarifies how important it is that they don't retain him (even without taking into account the potential for cap recapture penalties) because of the lengths you have to go to in order to make it work.

If I didn't value your input as a poster, I wouldn't engage your posts when I disagree with them.

 

[bernmeister]

Props to OP BBG for a good thread/poll.

Went w/1, Cally + picks for MSL, but only cause my actual option was not listed.

I would have tried to extend Cally earlier for less, and when it became clear he was gonna play the top dollar card, which is his right and I do not begrudge him given his service, I would probably have moved him -- most likely in a package -- for best offer earlier in season when presumably more options to choose from.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

i wonder if Callahan will get booed now because of this his next game at MSG. he dont really deserve that its his choice if he wants to leave.

 

[NYR Viper]

Is Chimera a UFA. Big guy who can fly and plays a rough game without dropping the gloves. Seems to be getting better with age actually.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

Is Chimera a UFA. Big guy who can fly and plays a rough game without dropping the gloves. Seems to be getting better with age actually.

no way he leaves the Caps.. he would come here and be Sjostrom 2.0

 

[Ola]

Not sure what you mean, Ola. I don't remember jumping on you regarding the BR signing, but if you say I did, it's possible - I certainly admit I was in favor at the time (although I thought the price was a bit high) as I didn't see him falling off the cliff as fast as he has. However, it's not like I'm always on your case. Why, only this morning I gave you big-time kudos on your analysis of the kids in HFD, which I thought was absolutely, word-for-word, dead-on perfect.

I happen to disagree with you vehemently on a couple of recent big issues (re-signing Cally and retaining BR), and I've been particularly emphatic in debating them because IMO both could screw this team up against the cap. In this case, you painted a roster picture that I feel not only doesn't support your point, it further clarifies how important it is that they don't retain him (even without taking into account the potential for cap recapture penalties) because of the lengths you have to go to in order to make it work.

If I didn't value your input as a poster, I wouldn't engage your posts when I disagree with them.

Are your initials RB?

I didn't respond to you. Thanks though for the kind words!

 

[Ola]

If we buy BR out, we are in a really good position with the cap. Buying BR out is definitely an easier decision to make with MSL still on the team.

I think this is some kind of starting point after a decision has been made to buy him out:

FORWARDS
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Chris Kreider ($2.500m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Benoit Pouliot ($2.000m) / Derick Brassard ($3.700m) / Mats Zuccarello ($4.000m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Jesper Fast ($0.805m)
Oscar Lindberg ($0.675m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Girardi ($5.500m) / Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
John Moore ($0.851m) / Anton Stralman ($2.500m)
Raphael Diaz ($1.225m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)

SALARY CAP: $69,000,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $65,862,167;

We have a lot of cap space and flexibility with that roster. I count on Boyle and Dorsett on being on the move, but they could be kept and / or others let go too (Strålman).

From my point of view, we are weak offensively. Miller will be good, but we don't have a producing environment. People can dream about MSL being a PPG player for us, but that will -- of course -- not happen unless he is put in a scoring environment. It will be just like with Richards. Why? Because what you produce for one team is the result of years work on that team. You just don't get that by bringing one player over, unless you can peg that player into the same or a better environment on your own team. We as a team don't have that. With every other UFA we sign, people blame their drop off in production on like injuries or age or whatever. Its interesting since we got MSL in a trade, what will we peg his lack of production on? Was he injured over night? Did he grow old over night? Some surgery he had x years ago? What was it called, "rangeritis"?

This is also not a very tough nor strong team.

What could we do with the cap space?

Thomas Vanek of course makes some sense. Sniper. Decent size. LW. Would work well with both MSL and Zucc. However, he would be expensive, probably really expensive. And I do think that Montreal will lock him up.

We could probably afford him, but it would probably mean that we let Pouliot go and invest a ton in Vanek. And that I am not sure if he is worth. 7x7.

The same more or less applies for Statsny. I would imagine that Moulson just will get waaaay to much in relation to how good he really is.

We would be in a good position to pick up rentals at the deadline, but we can't be in the habit to deal more picks yet again, and when you look at the UFA market in 15' (ie players potentially moved before the deadline in 15'), there are very few quality names available. Toews and Kane that will be locked up. Its hard to map the RFAs this summer that will become UFAs next summer if they sign 1-year deals (ROR and co), but there won't be all that many available.

We have flexibiltiy to make trades. Deal roster players for roster players, Step, Miller, Kreider, Hagelin, Brass, Strålman, even Staal, and so forth. Very hard moves to pull off though.

Like I've said before (right Viper?!! ), Hagelin is a player I would consider moving. I just imagine that he has more value on the market than he has for us on the roster. Hagelin for Ladd. Hagelin for a scoring D.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Richards really hasn't been good this year. His line with MSL and Hagelin is awful. Cally was awful with him. Cally is playing better with Filpulla in TBL who has more jump.

He needs to go. MSL needs new linemates.

Miller can come up and play center next year and Fast can play wing. I'd be really curious to see MSL on the LW with those two.

If Stralman isn't back either sign Niskanen, or I wouldn't be opposed to adding Orpik even though I can't stand him and he'll most likely stay in Pittsburgh. This lineup needs more nastiness. He's a lefty shot though so unless John Moore is moved or someone is playing their offside, here we go again.

Dorsett needs to be traded for a 5th rounder or a low level prospect. Too much money, not good enough. Get a late pick and take a very high risk player preferably a big body.

This team is missing two things now;
1. Youthful jump
2. Size and nastiness

 

[RangerBoy]

RB- Why don't you for the sake of fairness also point out that when I was against signing Brad Richards, you jumped at me posting stats of how Richards scored 90+ pts?

Isn't it fair to also point that out?

It's not like I often post a bunch of crap that later on at least turns out to be wrong (although it happens like with T Kaberle) and picks fights to pick fights. I was against getting BR to start with because he was very overrated and he had 60 pts written all over him.

I am not saying that we shouldn't buy out BR. But if this team and AV can show that it's close, it's a tough decision.

If Richards has 60 written all over him,get rid of him. The Rangers aren't winning with this group. What does "close" mean?

Not that many people wanted Brad Richards. Sting loved Richards. He proposed trading for Richards in the fall of 2010. McDonagh,White,Roszival and a #1 for Richards. McDonagh was in the AHL at the time.

Richards was an easy way to get a top center. He was a top center with the Stars. He hasn't been a top center in NY. After his first season,Richards said the second year would be better. Then the lockout happened and he spent the lockout negotiating the CBA according to Sather. That was BS. The Rangers(Sather)gave him a 3rd year.

You figured Richards would have give them 4 or maybe 5 good years out of the 9. He retires after the 6th year. The contract was structured that way. The Rangers made the signing because Tortorella wanted Richards here and it was a foregone conclusion that he was coming here. Everyone and their mother knew Richards was coming to NY. Messier gave the Rangers a boost in 1991 and you figured Richards with his Cup ring and Conn Smythe would give the Rangers the same boost. He was OK in the first year. He was bad last season. Richards and Torts were speaking to each other. This season has been worse than the first year. Where is the future in this player? The present is average.

 

[RangerBoy]

That performance was a joke last night. That team is winning 4 playoff rounds in 2 months. Come one people

Even the last Friday game against Carolina wasn't a pretty game. They won. Carolina stinks.

They better be careful and don't wind up as a wildcard. Facing either Pitt or Boston in the first round.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Are your initials RB?

I didn't respond to you. Thanks though for the kind words!

Ahahahahahaha! Too many Bs and Rs floating around - I had read the post above immediately above (which WAS directed to me) and just assumed that the second post was building off the first. Oh well - as long as we're good.

And back on topic - I agree with every word RB just posted. This team ain't going anywhere as constituted. Richie needs to go. I'd cut him now and call up Miller if I could.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

That performance was a joke last night. That team is winning 4 playoff rounds in 2 months. Come one people

Even the last Friday game against Carolina wasn't a pretty game. They won. Carolina stinks.

They better be careful and don't wind up as a wildcard. Facing either Pitt or Boston in the first round.

And more draft picks thrown down the toilet, wasted. I'm not knocking MSL. And it shouldn't be a shock that our farm system is a **** show and a joke run by company man clueless Gernander. Either way we'd end up worse: wasting draft picks or trading them.
Yeah but anything can happen! YOLO!

 

[Ola]

If Richards has 60 written all over him,get rid of him. The Rangers aren't winning with this group. What does "close" mean?

Not that many people wanted Brad Richards. Sting loved Richards. He proposed trading for Richards in the fall of 2010. McDonagh,White,Roszival and a #1 for Richards. McDonagh was in the AHL at the time.

Richards was an easy way to get a top center. He was a top center with the Stars. He hasn't been a top center in NY. After his first season,Richards said the second year would be better. Then the lockout happened and he spent the lockout negotiating the CBA according to Sather. That was BS. The Rangers(Sather)gave him a 3rd year.

You figured Richards would have give them 4 or maybe 5 good years out of the 9. He retires after the 6th year. The contract was structured that way. The Rangers made the signing because Tortorella wanted Richards here and it was a foregone conclusion that he was coming here. Everyone and their mother knew Richards was coming to NY. Messier gave the Rangers a boost in 1991 and you figured Richards with his Cup ring and Conn Smythe would give the Rangers the same boost. He was OK in the first year. He was bad last season. Richards and Torts were speaking to each other. This season has been worse than the first year. Where is the future in this player? The present is average.

Good points.

The problem with Richards is this from my point of view. And its the same objections I had in 2011.

From 11 Feb 2011:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=30828897&postcount=479
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=30828861&postcount=478

Sting- Is it a positive sign that Richards always been on horrible teams? Can you explain that? Isn't he in fact then part of the problem?

Richards have always had guys like Lecavalier, MSL, Ryan Malone, Prospal, James Neal, Loui Eriksson and co around him.

He have always posted his good stats while being on tremendous PP's. Now, in Dallas he deserves a lot of cred for the PP's. But for Tampa`s? Not so much, there he was one of many contributing factors for sure but LeCavalier ran those top PP's. Not Richards.

The better the team he have around him, the better Richards will do. He have a ton of smarts and I would love to get him. But IMHO he is fully compareable to say a BRIAN RAFALSKI. Rafalski have been a great player for Detroit. He was basically the top D for the US in the Olympics. He did a great job for the US. He have a ton of smarts and is great on the PP.

But, does Rafalski make a team? No. Nobody would argue that. Its no difference with Richards just because he is a center. He can perform in the right environment. He can not lift a team or even remotely carry a team by himself (most of his teams "always suck tremendously", just like you said. And he have hardly been on teams compareable to constantly worthless teams like Florida or the Islanders or Toronto, he have been on teams with many very good players, nobody can arue anything else).

In relation to people stating that BR was a 90 pts player.

Put away the pipe guys. lol

I doubt there are 3 forwards in this league capable of going to a new team with a worthless PP and score 90 pts their first season.

Gabby is gabby, but he aint PP nor center oriented. I doubt Richards even would play with gabby if they were on teh same team. Its kind of like putting Gomez with JJ, it don't really add up.

No problem substaining 90 pts??????????

BR actually ended up playing with Gabby after a while, but it wasn't that pretty (to be fair Hags-BR-Gabby had a few moments).

There are several posts where I make the same arguments:

-He puts up his pts on identical contructed PPs. Great left handed playmaker down low (Lecav/Riberio). Great right handed PPQB to the left of him on the PP point (Zubov / Boyle).

-Before we got Richards, he was never a factor that lifted his teams in the standings. Look at Dallas. Look at Tampa after the lockout. We played Tampa a ton of times, back in 2011 it was a more fair question, but who can remember Richards being a factor when we played Tampa? I several times state what was correct, we had an easy time against Tampa because we put Betts on the ice against BR and Betts put the puck deep against Richards and he was taken out of the equation 5 on 5. On the PP, BR, Lecav, MSL, Boyle and co. was among the best in the league. But that was on the PP.

From my point of view, he is basically the same player now that he was 4-5 years ago, while putting up great stats. I rememeber watching Dallas play and BR had like a hat-trick or put up 3-4 pts or something like that, but Dallas sucked. On most shifts BR didn't get up ice. 2/3 pts/goals came of the PP on which he was great with Riberio, Zubov (IIRC), Neel and Erikson. But overall his line was just not good at all. BR skated exactly like he does for us now, no speed. Not even remotely. He was slow and choppy. When his line managed to get up ice, which was rare, BR just threw pucks on the net and Neel and Eriksson drove real hard to the net. Or BR blasted shots from nowhere, only to see the puck instantly head the other direction.

-Especially up until this year, we have not given BR even a remote shot at playing his game on the PP. He has had no playmaker down low to work with, and no right handed shot next to him.

-This year, he has been a big part of our PP doing better. A long with especially Brass and Zucc. And a smarter system.

With that said -- if we are close this year -- don't think its a given that Slats will buy out Richards. That sets us back. I am not saying that is what we should do, I am saying that its a reasonable prediction.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Stars had a good run in the playoffs after acquiring Richards in 2008.The team hasn't made the playoffs since 08. The Rangers are not winning anything with this group. How many keepers at forward for the Rangers? Nash. MSL. Stepan. Kreider. Miller from the prospects. Maybe Hagelin. He has the most trade value if the Rangers wanted to make a move. Richards is a waste of time and money. Zuccarello. Is there room for two small players who play the same position? The Rangers need to make a big decision on him this summer. Brassard. Love/hate with him. You look at the price of centers and if the Rangers could sign him to a 3 year deal for $12M,then maybe he could be a good player for them and they could move him in trade in a few years if they had to. Then you watch him in other games and this guy sucks. Zucc and Brass are in the same boat. Arb eligible. One year away from group III. The bloom is off the rose with Pouliot. Boyle. Moore. Carcillo. All of them are group IIIs. Dorsett. He is a guy you watch a few times a season playing for Columbus and you like him. Watch him play every game for the Rangers and you expect more. Move him in the summer. Teams asked about him last week. McDonagh and Girardi. Staal. Unless the Rangers get a great offer,re-sign Staal. The Rangers will have a ton of money tied up in their top 3 D. Klein is signed for 4 more years at a good number. Re-sign Moore to a 2 year bridge contract. Stralman's play has dropped since the break. The Rangers reportedly made an offer to Stralman and it was rejected but the agent denied that report. 3 years and $9M. Should they sign him? They have Girardi and Klein signed long-term on the right side. McIlrath will need to play in the NHL soon. Hopefully Sather will give the GM reigns to Gorton. The Rangers have a ton of work to do before they are legit Cup contenders.

 

[RangerBoy]

$69M-$70M cap. From: @FriedgeHNIC
Sent: Mar 12, 2014 11:32a

GMs told cap will be within $1-$2 million of what was projected in September

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[BBKers]

Updated roster and asset status

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013-2014 (50)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD (24)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team|Drafted| Age
1| F| Brassard, Derick | $3,200,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)|26
2| F | Kreider, Chris (ELC)| $1,325,000* | RFA 2014|New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 NYR (2009)|22
3| F | Zuccarello, Mats| $1,150,000 |RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted (started w NYR)|26
4| D | Falk, Justin| $975,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R4 #110 Minnesota Wild (2007)|25
5| D| Moore, John (ELC)| $965,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)|23
6| D| Stralman, Anton| $1,700,000| UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #216 Toronto (2005)|27
7| F| Boyle, Brian| $1,700,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)|29
8| F | Pouliot, Benoit | $1,300,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #4 Minnesota Wild (2005)| 27
9| D| Diaz, Rafael| $1,225,000| UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted|28
10| F | Moore, Dominic | $1,000,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R4 #95 NYR (2000)|33
11| F| Carcillo, Dan | $825,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R3 #73 Pittsburgh Penguins (2003)|29
12| F | Stepan, Derek|$3,075,000 |RFA 2015|New York Rangers/NHL|R2 #51 NYR (2008)|23
13| F | Hagelin, Carl | $2,250,000 | RFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #168 NYR (2007)|25
14| F | St Louis, Marty | $5,625,000 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| Undrafted|38
15| D | Staal, Marc | $3,975,000 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 NYR (2005)|27
16| F| Dorsett, Derek | $1,633,333 |UFA 2015|New York Rangers/NHL|R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)|27
17| F| Haggerty, Ryan (ELC)| ??? |RFA 2016|New York Rangers/NHL|Undrafted (started w NYR)|21
18| G | Talbot, Cameron | $562,600 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL|Undrafted (started w NYR)|26
19| D | Kline, Kevin | $2,900,000 | UFA 2018| New York Rangers/NHL | R2 #37 Nashville Predators(2003)|29
20| F | Nash, Rick (NMC??)|$7,800,000 | UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #1 Columbus Blue Jackets (2002)|29
21| D | McDonagh, Ryan | $4,700,000 |UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 Montreal (2007)|24
22| F | Richards, Brad (NMC) |$6,666,667 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL|R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)|33
23| D| Girardi, Dan (NMC => NTC)| $5,500,000 |UFA 2020| New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)|29
24| G | Lundqvist, Henrik (NMC)| $8,500,000 |UFA 2021|New York Rangers/NHL |R7 #208 NYR (2000)|32[/table]

Cap space right now for 2013/2014 (23 player roster - excludes Haggerty) - $7,011,087

Assigned to AHL/ECHL (26)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team|Drafted| Age
25| F | Kristo, Danny (ELC)| $1,300,000* | RFA 2014| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL| R2 #56 Montreal Canadians (2008)|23
26| F | Jean, Kyle (ELC)| $925,000* | RFA 2014| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL| Undrafted (started w NYR)|24
27| F | Bourque, Ryan (ELC) | $900,000* | RFA 2014| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL| R3 #80 NYR (2009)|23
28| G | Missiaen, Jason (ELC)|$750,000* |RFA 2014|Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)|23
29| G | Stajcer, Scott (ELC)| $700,000* | RFA 2014| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL|R5 #140 NYR (2009)|22
30| F | Wilson, Jason (ELC)| $588,333 | RFA 2014| Wichita Thunder/CHL| R5 #130 NYR (2010)|23
31| F | Beach, Kyle | $550,000 | RFA 2014| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #11 Chicago Blackhawks (2008)|24
32| G | LeNeveu, David | $550,000 |UFA 2014| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #46 Phoenix Coyotes (2002)|30
33| F | Powe, Darroll | $1,066,667 | UFA 2014| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted|28
34| F | Asham, Arron | $1,000,000 | UFA 2014| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL | R3 #71 Montreal (1996)|35
35| D | Bickel, Stu| $750,000| UFA 2014| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (basically started w NYR)|27
36| F | Haley, Micheal| $600,000 | UFA 2014| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL| Undrafted|27
37| D | Johnson, Aaron| $600,000 | UFA 2014| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL| R3 #85 Columbus Blue Jackets (2001)|30
38| D | Syvret, Danny | $587,500 |UFA 2014 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|R3 #81 Edmonton Oilers (2005)|28
39| D | McIlrath, Dylan (ELC)|$1,295,000* | RFA 2015 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|R1 #10 NYR (2010)| 21
40| F | Miller, J.T. (ELC)| $1,244,167* |RFA 2015|Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|R1 #15 NYR (2011)|20
41| F | Fast(h), Jesper (ELC)|$900,000* |RFA 2015| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|R6 #157 NYR (2010) |22
42| F | Yogan, Andrew (ELC)| $800,000* |RFA 2015 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL| R4 #100 NYR (2010)| 22
43| F | Lindberg, Oscar (ELC)| $760,000* |RFA 2015| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL| R2 #57 PHX (2010)| 22
44| F | Hrivik, Marek (ELC)|$685,000* | RFA 2015 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|Undrafted (started w NYR)| 22
45| D | Allen, Connor (ELC)|$1,775,000*|RFA 2016|Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|Undrafted (started w NYR)|24
46| D | Hughes, Tommy (ELC)| $608,333| RFA 2016| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|Undrafted (started w NYR)|21
47| F | Nicholls, J. (ELC)| $709,167 | RFA 2016| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)|21
48| D | Noreau, Samuel (ELC) |$685,000 |RFA 2016| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R5 #136 NYR(2011)|21
49| F | St. Croix, M. (ELC)| $665,000 | RFA 2016| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #106 NYR (2011)|20
50| F | Kantor, Michael (ELC)| $583,333| RFA 2016| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|Undrafted (started w NYR)|22
(51)| F | Duclair, Anthony (ELC-S) |$820,000*|RFA 2016 (2017)|Juniors - Québec Remparts/QMJHL|R3 #80 NYR(2013)|18
(52)| D | Donnay, Troy (ELC-S) | $716,667*|RFA 2016 (2017)|Juniors - London Knights/OHL|Undrafted (started w NYR)|20 [/table]

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR (there are likely a few more here I believe)
[table="head;width=2500]Pos| Player|Team| Drafted|Age
F |Spelling, Thomas| Sonderjyske/Denmark |R5 #142 NYR(2012)|21
F |Fogarty, Steven| Notre Dame Fighting Irish/NCAA| R3 #72 NYR (2011)|20
F |Nieves, Cristoval | Michigan Wolverines/NCAA| R2 #59 NYR (2012)|20
F |Adam Tambellini | Calgary Hitmen/WHL |R3 #65 NYR(2013)|19
D |Skjei, Brady | Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA |R1 #28 NYR (2012)|19
D |Andersson, Calle| Malmö /HA | R4 #119 NYR (2012)|19
G |Mackenzie Skapski | Kootenay/WHL |R6 #170 NYR(2013)|19
F |Pavel Buchnevich | Cherepovets/KHL |R3 #75 NYR(2013)|18
D |Ryan Graves | PEI/QMJHL |R4 #110 NYR(2013)|18
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* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract

2014 Draft picks

• 1st round NYR - (conditional - this pick is lost and replaces NYR 2nd rounder if NYR make the ECF)
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round NYR
• 5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)

We lost our 2nd rounder in 2014 in the Marty St Louis trade with Tampa Bay (becomes a 1st instead if we reach ECF)
We lost our 2014 5th rounder to San José in the Ryan Clowe trade in 2013 with San Jose as the predetermined conditions were met
We lost our 6th rounder in the trade with Minnesota that brought us Justin Falk
We eventually lost our 7th rounder in 2014 (conditional - terms unknown) to The LA Kings in the Danny Carcillo trade

Draft 2015
We lost our 2015 1st rounder in the Marty St Louis trade with Tampa Bay
We lost our 2015 5th rounder in the trade with Vancouver that brought us Rafael Diaz

Conditional picks 2015 - We will receive a second-round pick in 2015 if Ryan Callahan is re-signed by Tampa Bay for the 2014–15 NHL season. But we will then also loose our 7th round pick.

 

[NYR Viper]

no way he leaves the Caps.. he would come here and be Sjostrom 2.0

Why do you say that? The guy has been playing well for the Caps for multiple years. Big body who can fly and play a physical, tough game. Hard on opposing defenses over a 7 game series.

They need to find a way to compliment some of their smaller players with some guys with size.

 

[Ail]

They need to find a way to compliment some of their smaller players with some guys with size.

No they don't. At least not at the expense of wasting a roster spot or money. It's so stupid to try and force an issue like this just because "small players."

 

[NYR Viper]

The Stars had a good run in the playoffs after acquiring Richards in 2008.The team hasn't made the playoffs since 08. The Rangers are not winning anything with this group. How many keepers at forward for the Rangers? Nash. MSL. Stepan. Kreider. Miller from the prospects. Maybe Hagelin. He has the most trade value if the Rangers wanted to make a move. Richards is a waste of time and money. Zuccarello. Is there room for two small players who play the same position? The Rangers need to make a big decision on him this summer. Brassard. Love/hate with him. You look at the price of centers and if the Rangers could sign him to a 3 year deal for $12M,then maybe he could be a good player for them and they could move him in trade in a few years if they had to. Then you watch him in other games and this guy sucks. Zucc and Brass are in the same boat. Arb eligible. One year away from group III. The bloom is off the rose with Pouliot. Boyle. Moore. Carcillo. All of them are group IIIs. Dorsett. He is a guy you watch a few times a season playing for Columbus and you like him. Watch him play every game for the Rangers and you expect more. Move him in the summer. Teams asked about him last week. McDonagh and Girardi. Staal. Unless the Rangers get a great offer,re-sign Staal. The Rangers will have a ton of money tied up in their top 3 D. Klein is signed for 4 more years at a good number. Re-sign Moore to a 2 year bridge contract. Stralman's play has dropped since the break. The Rangers reportedly made an offer to Stralman and it was rejected but the agent denied that report. 3 years and $9M. Should they sign him? They have Girardi and Klein signed long-term on the right side. McIlrath will need to play in the NHL soon. Hopefully Sather will give the GM reigns to Gorton. The Rangers have a ton of work to do before they are legit Cup contenders.

I agree with all of this except the Zuccarello portion. He needs to be resigned to a longer deal. Skill and heart, the team needs more of it. He makes the players around him better consistently.

Re-sign Brassard or look for an upgrade via trade.

Buyout Richards.

Move Dorsett for someone who AV will trust and play more.

Forwards that are a lock:
St Louis
Stepan
Kreider
Nash
Zuccarello
Hagelin
Miller/Lindberg
Fast/Kristo/Hagerty/Hrivik/Bourque

That's 8 spots taken at forward. Need 4 more from somewhere. 3 if they keep Brassard.

Would Winnepeg move Kane? Power forward LW. Top-6.

Kyle Clifford was rumored to be available in the offseason. What's the cost?

Carcillo has been good. Re-sign him?

Defense that are/should be a lock:
McDonagh
Girardi
Staal
Moore
Klein

5 of 7 spots taken. One of McIlrath or Allen should be ready by next year. That will be a considerable cap savings as compared to what Stralman will get.

 

[NYR Viper]

No they don't. At least not at the expense of wasting a roster spot or money. It's so stupid to try and force an issue like this just because "small players."

Did I say it had to be forced? No.

Wait until the playoffs. It's a long grueling 2nd season. The bigger teams normally do better because they wear on the other teams.

 

[TheTakedown]

Did I say it had to be forced? No.

Wait until the playoffs. It's a long grueling 2nd season. The bigger teams normally do better because they wear on the other teams.

I mean, you could argue:
bigger > smaller

but you could also argue:
heart = as big as bigger players

Any athletic person who is motivated can make something happen. If half this team had half the heart of Zucc, we'd be a home run, and everyone knows it