Speculation: Trade / Roster Speculation Thread XXVIII: All the #1C's!

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-31- have your bookie call mine, Y'Majesty Reinhold, to discuss your method of transferring the VCash.
 
I'll hate the contract but if it happens I'll support it cuz I'm a ranger fan and I'll always support my team no matter how much they suck
 
For 6M, he needs to produce like Jonathan Toews, Thomas Vanek, or the Sedin twins.

Who will all make considerably more on their next deals.

This is what people do not get.

They want Callahan, good or bad, to sign for what players of his caliber signed two years ago. Salaries are rising and trending towards $2m per 10g scored. Today he is worth close the $6m range, anything less is on the GM to negotiate down too. The guys mentioned above, may make that today based on a market they signed in a few years ago but that was then, this is now, they all would get more if they signed today. Most likely, the twins would be playing on seperate teams for the 1st time in their NHL careers.

Not you specifically Greg, but people need to get over this in general. Especially in the Donald Fehr era. You will soon see player salaries escalate exponentially.
 
Who will all make considerably more on their next deals.

This is what people do not get.

They want Callahan, good or bad, to sign for what players of his caliber signed two years ago. Salaries are rising and trending towards $2m per 10g scored. Today he is worth close the $6m range, anything less is on the GM to negotiate down too. The guys mentioned above, may make that today based on a market they signed in a few years ago but that was then, this is now, they all would get more if they signed today. Most likely, the twins would be playing on seperate teams for the 1st time in their NHL careers.

Not you specifically Greg, but people need to get over this in general. Especially in the Donald Fehr era. You will soon see player salaries escalate exponentially.

Excactly 7 isn't elite money anymore today you looking at nine.
 
I'm not...

You can dislike individual players and still cheer for the team.

That being said I am sure people will still cheer for Callahan, it won't be his fault Sather paid him. By the end of the contract though he will enter whipping boy status. That's nothing new. It has nothing to do with loyalty.

Edit: Hypothetically speaking. Still 90% sure that he is traded.
 
I'm just saying that being upset with a bad contract for Callahan doesn't mean I'm suddenly a disloyal fan. If I begin to loathe Callahan as an overpaid player as he continues in his career, it's not a question of being loyal.

You missed my point. Look at the post I was responding to. I also used the word "some" fans, that doesn't mean all fans. Certainly doesn't mean you. I bolded out this sentence.
In the end it will turn a fan favorite homegrown captain into a hated overpaid shell of a fan favorite.

It's not unrealistic to question the loyalty of fans that are going to hate an overpaid shell of a player BEFORE THAT EVEN HAPPENS! If Callahan resigns and is a shell of himself in a few years AND fans are booing him it would be a disgraceful. The guy would have sacrificed his body for the Rangers, for the enjoyment of the fans that are booing him. Does that sound loyal to you?

Maybe you already loathe Callahan....I don't know...
 
Let's Jeff Carter him. Give him the 6 year contract with a NTC andf then trade him before it kicks in lol.

Not allowed anymore in the CBA. A team can't agree to give a player a restriction clause which begins on July 1 and the team trades the player on June 30. Girardi has a no move in the first 3 years but it began when he signed the extension on Friday.
 
Not allowed anymore in the CBA. A team can't agree to give a player a restriction clause which begins on July 1 and the team trades the player on June 30. Girardi has a no move in the first 3 years but it began when he signed the extension on Friday.
I believe what you're describing is optional. A team and player can agree to extend it to the contract signing date, but don't have to.
 
If it were my decision, I would try to get a cheaper roster player or a high draft pick for Callahan in a trade.

Keep JT Miller up on the third line, and when Zucc is healthy move him up to the second line...

The biggest draw back would be that we would essentially be replacing Callahan with Miller, who obviously isn't as good as Cally....but I don't think production would be that far off...plus you're gaining off Callahan by trading him
 
11.8

(b) A no-Trade clause or a no-move clause that is negotiated as part of an extension of an SPC entered into pursuant to Section 50.5(f) may become effective immediately upon registration of, but prior to the effective date of, such SPC extension, provided: (i) the Player would otherwise have been eligible as of the immediately preceding July 1 prior to signing the SPC extension to have a no-Trade or no-move clause pursuant to Section 11.8; and (ii) the Club and the Player, who are parties to such SPC extension, agree that the no-Trade or no-move clause is effective immediately upon execution of the SPC extension (or at some later date agreed to by the Club and the Player) and evidence such agreement in writing in the SPC.

New clause.
 
You missed my point. Look at the post I was responding to. I also used the word "some" fans, that doesn't mean all fans. Certainly doesn't mean you. I bolded out this sentence.


It's not unrealistic to question the loyalty of fans that are going to hate an overpaid shell of a player BEFORE THAT EVEN HAPPENS! If Callahan resigns and is a shell of himself in a few years AND fans are booing him it would be a disgraceful. The guy would have sacrificed his body for the Rangers, for the enjoyment of the fans that are booing him. Does that sound loyal to you?

Maybe you already loathe Callahan....I don't know...

You're right. I missed the point. My fault.

To your other point, I think it's extreme to hate a guy before anything comes to fruition, but I think many fans are simply confused as to who to take their frustration out on. I highly doubt we'll see anything other than fleeting disdain for Callahan if/when he signs a new contract. However, if he signs the deal and blows out his knee, then all bets are off. :laugh:
 
Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 2m
Mckenzie brought up centres like Stepan, Kadri, Johansson, Jenner, B.Schenn as the guys Van would take back for Kesler.
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A testament to the value or Ryan Kesler, or the value of Derek Stepan?

I would probably not want to trade any of those players for Ryan Kesler.
 
Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 2m
Mckenzie brought up centres like Stepan, Kadri, Johansson, Jenner, B.Schenn as the guys Van would take back for Kesler.
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A testament to the value or Ryan Kesler, or the value of Derek Stepan?

I would probably not want to trade any of those players for Ryan Kesler.
Me neither, AINEC
 
Thank god only another day of this rubbish. Sather wouldn't torture us and make a deal on gameday?
 
You missed my point. Look at the post I was responding to. I also used the word "some" fans, that doesn't mean all fans. Certainly doesn't mean you. I bolded out this sentence.


It's not unrealistic to question the loyalty of fans that are going to hate an overpaid shell of a player BEFORE THAT EVEN HAPPENS! If Callahan resigns and is a shell of himself in a few years AND fans are booing him it would be a disgraceful. The guy would have sacrificed his body for the Rangers, for the enjoyment of the fans that are booing him. Does that sound loyal to you?

Maybe you already loathe Callahan....I don't know...

I would say he played while wearing the jersey more than I would say he did it for the jersey. Then this contract business happened and now I KNOW he is just another sports player who busted his ass while wearing a particular jersey without busting his ass for the jersey. I don't blame him. If he hadn't busted his ass for us he wouldn't have gotten any contract and he wouldn't have been an olympian or had much of a career. But I don't have any romantic delusions about why these guys play the game. it's not for the logo
 
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