Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

[Vachon23]

If Ottawa could get a Suzuki/Caufield asset for the 7th pick in this draft I think the trade would just need to be signed lol.

The only way they get an asset like that is if the asset wants out of their current situation and the 7th pick is the best offer they can get for them.

That's what Ottawa would ask because we don't have the pieces they will want for that pick, but they would't ask that with the idea that the Habs will accept.

Where just not a good trade partner with Ottawa for the 7oa

Rondelle libre | Les six dossiers de Kent Hughes

Le repêchage de la LNH retient évidemment beaucoup l’attention à Montréal puisque le Canadien détient le premier choix au total pour la première fois depuis 1980, mais il s’agira de l’un des aspects seulement du travail du directeur général Kent Hughes au cours de la période estivale. En voici six.

www.lapresse.ca

Interesting paragraph in the article which is in french. "Il semble qu’il y a toujours espoir de voir le contrat de Shea Weber passer aux Coyotes de l’Arizona. Son salaire comptera pour 7,8 millions de la masse au cours des quatre prochaines années et il lui reste 6 millions à recevoir en salaire, soit une moyenne de 1,5 million par saison. Son contrat le rend très attrayant pour un club visant à atteindre le plancher salarial sans trop dépenser. Ne soyez pas surpris de voir Jonathan Drouin passer aux Coyotes dans une telle transaction. Loin d’être une affaire conclut, mais vous l’aurez lu ici en premier si jamais ça se produit. Montréal libérerait ainsi plus de 13 millions sur sa masse en prévision de l’an prochain."

It's not a done deal but can see Drouin and Weber both heading to Arizona in the offseason

That's funny ! same post at the same time

 

[David Suzuki]

That's what Ottawa would ask because we don't have the pieces they will want for that pick, but they would't ask that with the idea that the Habs will accept.

Where just not a good trade partner with Ottawa for the 7oa

Suzuki and Caufield feel like significantly more valuable than the 7th pick in this draft but maybe they'd ask for that but the conversation would last about 5 seconds. Not sure there's a single asset of that level nearing their prime that would move for any pick in this draft let alone one out of the so called (imo) elite tier of prospects.

I guess you have a point they may ask for pieces like that but it would be a waste of their time lol.

 

[Vachon23]

Suzuki and Caufield feel like significantly more valuable than the 7th pick in this draft but maybe they'd ask for that but the conversation would last about 5 seconds. Not sure there's a single asset of that level nearing their prime that would move for any pick in this draft let alone one out of the so called (imo) elite tier of prospects.

I guess you have a point they may ask for pieces like that but it would be a waste of their time lol.

Like I said, that would be there answers if MTL calls and ask what it would cost, but Ottawa won't call MTL to offer that.

 

[ReHabs]

The thing with Drouin is that he might pick it up next year and be worth something at the trade deadline. Unless Hughes is really looking to spend that cap maybe it's not worth dumping him?

It's a question of what his future value might look like. Say he's on a 60pt pace next year, would anybody trade a 1st round pick for him?

 

[Vachon23]

The thing with Drouin is that he might pick it up next year and be worth something at the trade deadline. Unless Hughes is really looking to spend that cap maybe it's not worth dumping him?

It's a question of what his future value might look like. Say he's on a 60pt pace next year, would anybody trade a 1st round pick for him?

Since he's here, each offseason where hopping that Drouin will pick it up and it doesn't happen. At this point, going to Arizona is probably the best thing that could happen for Drouin himself.

 

[ReHabs]

Since he's here, each offseason where hopping that Drouin will pick it up and it doesn't happen. At this point, going to Arizona is probably the best thing that could happen for Drouin himself.

I could not care less what's best for Drouin the hockey player's career. What matter is what is best for the Habs at this point.

Is it worth dumping Drouin's contract along Weber's for a (possibly meagre) return or holding onto Drouin and hoping you can generate more at the deadline? What about Byron?

 

[blarneylad]

Farrell has a pretty good shot of being a top 9 player.

I hope so!

 

[Vachon23]

I could not care less what's best for Drouin the hockey player's career. What matter is what is best for the Habs at this point.

Is it worth dumping Drouin's contract along Weber's for a (possibly meagre) return or holding onto Drouin and hoping you can generate more at the deadline? What about Byron?

I mean an other 3/4th round pick won't make that much a difference, we have a ton of pick in the past 2 seasons.

Byron is a difference case, we don't know if he's 100 % healthy and he's a player that I want to keep around our young players.

 

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A trade tree that started with Zach Redmond:

from an Andrew Zadanowski tweet

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time will tell,
still the 2007 Rivet<->Gorges+1st trade tree was quite something

 

[Kent Nilsson]

I could not care less what's best for Drouin the hockey player's career. What matter is what is best for the Habs at this point.

Is it worth dumping Drouin's contract along Weber's for a (possibly meagre) return or holding onto Drouin and hoping you can generate more at the deadline? What about Byron?

Getting rid of Drouin is good in itself for team culture. One less slacker.

 

[habsfan891]

Getting rid of Drouin is good in itself for team culture. One less slacker.

Agree completely massive win if we can drop both Weber and Drouin on Arizona

 

[Sterling Archer]

I could not care less what's best for Drouin the hockey player's career. What matter is what is best for the Habs at this point.

Is it worth dumping Drouin's contract along Weber's for a (possibly meagre) return or holding onto Drouin and hoping you can generate more at the deadline? What about Byron?

This is what I'm feeling. Very little to lose in holding on to Drouin in a contract year and trying to flip him at the deadline. We see year after year the ridiculous prices teams pay for UFAs for a playoff run. Eat half his salary and/or take some more and you never know what he can get you.

 

[NewEraGM]

serevalli i think it was said big , mobile right shot Dmen were the unicorns of the NHL and everyone is looking for them. He was talking about Tyler Myers leading up to that but it makes me wonder about Jeff Petry who fits all that criteria. Serevalli said Canucks would get paid to trade Tyler Myers (in other words, he has value).

Jeff Petry is a better defensemen, both offensively and defensively, and he’s on a similar contract to Tyler myers (3 years instead of 2 for Myers and basically same 6M cap hit).

The idea that he’s a negative value I think is preposterous, especially given how he had significantly improved his play under MSL towards the end of the season.

 

[Canadienna]

Leafs board was asking what it would cost to get Jake Allen.

Sandin for Allen make any sense?

serevalli i think it was said big , mobile right shot Dmen were the unicorns of the NHL and everyone is looking for them. He was talking about Tyler Myers leading up to that but it makes me wonder about Jeff Petry who fits all that criteria. Serevalli said Canucks would get paid to trade Tyler Myers (in other words, he has value).

Jeff Petry is a better defensemen, both offensively and defensively, and he’s on a similar contract to Tyler myers (3 years instead of 2 for Myers and basically same 6M cap hit).

The idea that he’s a negative value I think is preposterous, especially given how he had significantly improved his play under MSL towards the end of the season.

I agree, now that he finished the season like the Petry of old, and the value for RHS Dmen, he should get us some decent assets.

 

[DAChampion]

I could not care less what's best for Drouin the hockey player's career. What matter is what is best for the Habs at this point.

Is it worth dumping Drouin's contract along Weber's for a (possibly meagre) return or holding onto Drouin and hoping you can generate more at the deadline? What about Byron?

Dumping Drouin also liberates a roster spot for Ylonen/Roy.

 

[Vachon23]

Leafs board was asking what it would cost to get Jake Allen.

Sandin for Allen make any sense?

Not sure Jake Allen is the solution for EDM/TOR but if they want to pay for him, go for it !

serevalli i think it was said big , mobile right shot Dmen were the unicorns of the NHL and everyone is looking for them. He was talking about Tyler Myers leading up to that but it makes me wonder about Jeff Petry who fits all that criteria. Serevalli said Canucks would get paid to trade Tyler Myers (in other words, he has value).

Jeff Petry is a better defensemen, both offensively and defensively, and he’s on a similar contract to Tyler myers (3 years instead of 2 for Myers and basically same 6M cap hit).

The idea that he’s a negative value I think is preposterous, especially given how he had significantly improved his play under MSL towards the end of the season.

You won't pay to get him out, but don't expect a BIG return for him either

 

[MtlSars]

Incumbent on whether Carey Price retires, I'd trade Jake Allen to Toronto for their 1st draft round pick+ Nick Robertson and Peter Mrazek.

They key here is helping them shed some salary by taking 2 years of Mrazek's contract. Helps us with the tank for the next 2 and if Nick has half of his brothers talent, we'll have a player there.... Think they bite?

Edit: After investigating.... they have Knies and Niemela (Amirov if he ever recovers) and not much else in terms of prospects... not sure they'd be willing to part with Robertson...

 

[Vachon23]

Incumbent on whether Carey Price retires, I'd trade Jake Allen to Toronto for their 1st draft round pick+ Nick Robertson and Peter Mrazek.

They key here is helping them shed some salary by taking 2 years of Mrazek's contract. Helps us with the tank for the next 2 and if Nick has half of his brothers talent, we'll have a player there.... Think they bite?

I would't if I was TOR, but who knows

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Teams who should be most interested in Allen are teams with a younger starter who can use a veteran guy behind them as insurance.. he can be a good 1B but no playoff teams will be targeting him as the go-to guy. Dallas could be a good spot with Oettinger still very young and if Washington trades one of Samsonov or Vanecek, Allen would be a solid back-up there.

Also, with Lehner's shoulder issues maybe Vegas could have interest and can give us a nice ++ in addition to us taking on Broissoit.

 

[Lockin17]

i would love to get a other first rd pick this year
Canucks at #15 should be a target, they lack good prospect in their pool.

#33 + 3 x 3rd 2022 ,that is 4 picks
For
#15 (Conor Geekie or Nazar) longg shot Lambert

OR

#26 + #65 + 4th rd + 7th rd
for
#15

 

[tazsub3]

Since he's here, each offseason where hopping that Drouin will pick it up and it doesn't happen. At this point, going to Arizona is probably the best thing that could happen for Drouin himself.

can he handle the pressure of all their fans screaming in their new arena?? 100 might be worst then 20k, he would actually hear each comment

 

[Sorinth]

The thing with Drouin is that he might pick it up next year and be worth something at the trade deadline. Unless Hughes is really looking to spend that cap maybe it's not worth dumping him?

It's a question of what his future value might look like. Say he's on a 60pt pace next year, would anybody trade a 1st round pick for him?

You aren't just gambling on him being productive but also being healthy at trade deadline which is just as big a risk.

If we have to pay someone to take Drouin then I don't see much point in trading him. If he's actually adding some value in some sort of package (Even if it's just balancing the cap hits) then sure trade him now. He's not likely to get a 1st round pick at TD even if producing and playing well but we could still potentially get a decent prospect in return.

He's in that weird spot where there's no rush/need to get rid of him, but you also don't want to be too patient trying to maximize the return because of the risk you get nothing. First halfway decent deal involving him should be accepted.

 

[smirob]

Blackhawks May Entertain a Kirby Dach Trade

Interesting to me. Let's assume HuGo want Slaf......would you flip Hoffman, 26th/33rd OVR + a decent prospect for Dach?

CHI doesn't have a first round pick and have cap space to take on a Hoffman/Drouin etc.

 

[Joseph Nathan]

Blackhawks May Entertain a Kirby Dach Trade

Interesting to me. Let's assume HuGo want Slaf......would you flip Hoffman, 26th/33rd OVR + a decent prospect for Dach?

CHI doesn't have a first round pick and have cap space to take on a Hoffman/Drouin etc.

Hoffman & drouin are cap dump. You would pay to get rid of them. 26thth / 33rd with cap dump doesn't get you dach

 

[Vachon23]

A CBJ fans on the main board propose Eric Robinson vs Joël Armia

Am I the only one who would make that deal ?