HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread: From Here to Free Agency

[OldCraig71]

Read between the lines.

Educate me here. I don't smell what you're cookin.

 

[Jaynki]

Educate me here. I don't smell what you're cookin.

PAgnotta is a fraud. It never happened. Why would he know the core of trade negotiations.

 

[OnTheRun]

We extended him for 2 years so we could trade him lol. The mental gymnastics to try make this move seem less stupid. There was no reason to do it.

He was signed for 2 years by St. Louis before they let him go, no sure where is the issue here. Anyone signed on such a short term should be considered placeholder.

 

[JianYang]

We extended him for 2 years so we could trade him lol. The mental gymnastics to try make this move seem less stupid. There was no reason to do it.

This is truly bizarre. Its equivalent to an 800k salary coming out of the 04 lockout.

I never said he should be traded at this time. Hes done well here. I only asked if he has a ntc because if they want to move him, it shouldnt be hard otherwise.

What about a small term small cap hit contract triggers you so much especially for a guy who lived up to it? What about that cap hit and term tells you he isnt expendable?

 

[Milhouse40]

Not the perfect example but when the Habs acquired he was a ufa at the end of the year and the signed an extension for 6 years.

Yeah, I erased it.....he's a Canadian

You think Gionta was overpaid?

Ishh, if you have to go back 17 years to find one......kind of prove my point.
In those CAD and USD were pretty much equal too

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Boys he's not gonna waive for Canada

Not necessarily. His father is Canadian - born & raised in Scarborough. He left for a university scholarship in soccer at University of Southern Indiana & stayed in US. His mom, Dylan's grandmother, still lives in Toronto.

It's likely he stays in US, but you never know.

 

[tazsub3]

We extended him for 2 years so we could trade him lol. The mental gymnastics to try make this move seem less stupid. There was no reason to do it.

we secured a very good 4th liner for almost min wage because he wanted to stay here. look what those players will go for on july 1st and lets revist.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Yeah, I erased it.....he's a Canadian


Ishh, if you have to go back 17 years to find one......kind of prove my point.
In those CAD and USD were pretty much equal too

Wideman? Thompson? Gilbert?

I'm not really sure how that proves a point. Montreal hasn't really signed a UFA for the NHL team in 5 years, and there aren't that many players of any nationality that came to Montreal in free agency without playing here first or being largely overpaid. Overpaying guys is a thing that happens to get guys to come to a mid team willingly, regardless of nationality.

 

[OldCraig71]

PAgnotta is a fraud. It never happened. Why would he know the core of trade negotiations.

Okay, gotcha.

 

[DAChampion]

Zharovsky, two 1sts, (and Engstrom?) is fair value for Matthew Knies.

 

[DAChampion]

You can’t trade your way to contender status.

Chicago had to acquire Hossa. (Edit Patrick Sharp and Andrew Ladd)
Los Angeles had to acquire Carter and Richards.
Washington had to acquire Eller.
Tampa Bay had to acquire McDonagh and Sergachev.
Vegas had to acquire Marner, Eichel, etc.

 

[Jaynki]

Zharovsky, two 1sts, (and Engstrom?) is fair value for Matthew Knies.

Its so f***ing stupid. Its one of the worst proposals i have seen.

 

[vokiel]

Zharovsky, two 1sts, (and Engstrom?) is fair value for Matthew Knies.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Larkin will end up in MIN or LA

 

[DAChampion]

Its so f***ing stupid. Its one of the worst proposals i have seen.

You have to give to get.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Zharovsky, two 1sts, (and Engstrom?) is fair value for Matthew Knies.

Its a lot to give up, but its what you would expect someone like Knies to get. He could be a ~ppg powerforward next year playing with Demidov.

The important issue it that its a lot of good assets to give up for a non-center forward, but if the plan is to have Hage center that line, then it makes sense.

Knies - Hage - Demidov

 

[Vachon23]

Chicago had to acquire Hossa. (Edit Patrick Sharp and Andrew Ladd)
Los Angeles had to acquire Carter and Richards.
Washington had to acquire Eller.
Tampa Bay had to acquire McDonagh and Sergachev.
Vegas had to acquire Marner, Eichel, etc.

The young Hawks did acquired Hossa after a lost in the semi final in 5 in 08

I hope we can do the same and that will put us in an other level like it did for the Hawks

 

[KevSkillz4]

I really like Zharovsky and I think he is going to be really really special player, but if you tell me that Habs acquire Matthew Knies for Zharovsky, 2 1st picks and another prospect not named Hage//Reinbacher//Fowler...

LET'S DO SIGN RIGHT f***ING NOW!!

But I don't believe on this rumor, but the price, I would certainly pay for that. Matthew Knies is a amazing powerforward, it's like adding another Juraj Slafkovsky on that team. Yeah Slaf more potential, but Knies is fantastic aswell!!

 

[Jaynki]

You have to give to get.

YEs indeed, but we don't need to get at all price. Especially when we already have.

 

[CHfan1]

If Hughes does that trade it means during his tenure he will have traded more first round picks than used. That is an organizational disaster that will show up in 5 years from now. Sounds very Leafs -like.

Or very Florida like, who hasn’t had a 1st round pick the last 4 years. If a team is using their 1st round picks to find long term solutions, like Dobson, to try and win now i dont think that’s a bad thing. The issue with the Leafs is they traded their 1sts for players that weren’t long term solutions, such as Carlo, O’Reilly, and Laughton.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Larkin playing with Demidov?!?!?! That would be pretty nasty haha!!

 

[yianik]

Zharovsky, two 1sts, (and Engstrom?) is fair value for Matthew Knies.

Unless he has been a stealth centre , no. Would be a great add except for needing a 2C and RHD more

 

[Team_Spirit]

Dylan? Darnell?? Wat???

Nobody over 30

Don't hate the player hate the game

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Most of the predictable players breathlessly talked about here are not the answer.

I concur. Sometimes there's a fit, but not in this case.

 

[Habby4Life]

Larkin playing with Demidov?!?!?! That would be pretty nasty haha!!

Offer Zharo, the RFA not named Arber or Bolduc, and two firsts for Larkin.

Team needs a C badly