HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #90: 2024-2025 season part III

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I don't see him leaving Florida. I think he'll take less money to stay with a cup contender that's set up pretty well for the next 3-4 years.
Bennett currently makes $4.425 and is going to get a huge raise on the open market. The cats are currently up against the cap, and even with it raising, they also have Ekblad to sign. It would be tight, but I agree that they can likely get it done. Who knows, though.
 
Bouchard appears to be more of 65 point dman a year. Maybe less depending on what he does next year.

That's taking his 80 point season and then what he's on pace for this year.

If I were you, I'd get Flohockey, or if you can find the games for free and watch Mailloux. He's getting better.
Bouchard has 58 points in 53 career playoff games. People just love to make fun of the giveaways but he’s absolutely the best Canadian offensive defenceman after Makar. Mailloux is nowhere near that level and it’s just odd to compare the two.
 
Prepare not to have a 2C for a long while or pay a ton of assets to get one. Suzuki-Bennett would be an awesome 1-2 punch, and we will have the wingers to support them. Bennett would be more like a 1B and would give Demidov a vet C to play with. We could also put Caufield with him and have Demidov play with Suzuki. Bennett would make our team a lot better, and with the cap going up, $10mil wouldn't be so bad.
Yeah he is pretty good and his kinda play his needed but let's not say he is a 1B center because he isn't. I understand the cap is going up but it is going up for everybody. And if you overpay to big for one player, it has an impact on the long term salary structure of the team.

That's why it is not as easy as saying : Hey Sam, what would it take for you to sign in Mtl?? 10M$?, 12 M$?? Name it, you get it.
 
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Yeah he is pretty good and his kinda play his needed but let's not say he is a 1B center because he isn't. I understand the cap is going up but it is going up for everybody. And if you overpay to big for one player, it has an impact on the long term salary structure of the team.

That's why it is not as easy as saying : Hey Sam, what would it take for you to sign in Mtl?? 10M$?, 12 M$?? Name it, you get it.
He is a premiere 2C. Whether you want to believe he is a 1B or not is pedantic. He doesn't play PP1, and his production is very good when considering that. His intangibles are not to be understated.
 
I see a lot of people (finally) hopping on the Bennett bandwagon lately. Good. He’s exactly what this team needs. I have been saying it for a very long time, you get Bennett, you fill a huge amount of holes and are in serious business. The good news is that he’s a Quartexx client, so if he makes it to UFA status, we have a solid chance.

You get leadership, you get size, you get the bulldog tenacity that used to be a hallmark of all those great Habs teams, you get skill, you get goals. You get the kind of player that shows up in the tough games and leads by example. He will fight and will drag others into the fight with him. The perfect veteran to look after and play with Demidov.

We need more guys like this, and I will be the first one to buy a jersey if Hughes can get him signed here.
 
Bennett is a UFA this summer. A left handed #2 center. Would you give him 10 million?
If it costs 10M to get Bennett, no way!

I think that folks are little off their rockers suggesting a 10M payday for Bennett. As much as I like this player, I think that pays g him that kind of money is a fool's errand, personally.

There is no way Hughes crashes through the Cap hit benchmarks he has established based on the contract awarded by Bergevin to Suzuki, followed by his own contracts offered to Caufield and Slafkovsky.

I'm not saying too not overpay a little for Bennett to snag him, but jumping from 4.425M a year to 10M a year for a player that brings value, but stil remains a 40-50 point player at the NHL level is ludicrous.

I understand the need for a 2C and I'm the first to suggest it needs to get solved sooner than later, but the repercussions on the team's Cap structure at 10M will likely cripple our chances to keep a winner together longer and might just give us an infinitesimal window for a Cup run over the length of Bennett's contract as players like Hutson and Demidov look for sharp raises in their 2nd NHL contracts.

We'd become a strong two line team with revolving depth players on a really small dime at that point and that hasn't gone so well for teams like Toronto and Edmonton so far, even though bad management also plays a big role in how bad they have been in the past (maybe not for a short period in the future, though).

Bennett remains a #2 C and is not an elite 1st line C. In Montreal, based on a shutdown C philosophy, where that C can also produce 70-80 points, ideally, Bennett would not exactly be a 1a, 1B C either. Of course, he is a gamer come playoff time and fits the expression, "Some players get you to the playoffs and some players get you through the playoffs," and that has value as an intangible.

I'd argue that Suzuki (and Caufield) have also demonstrated that they raise their level of play come playoff time and they did that as youngsters who could have been crippled by pressure at the time. Instead, they rose to the occasion.

Another such player, in Bennett, will certainly help this team a great lot, but not at 10M.

I think that 8M X 7 years would be plenty, personally, with the contract heavily front-loaded and bonus-laden to make the 8M be closer to 8.5M placed in an actuarial context of present VS future money.

8.5M, given the new Cap context?

10M for a role player, even if the role is important is too much money, even if ewe have room to fit it in.
 
Bennett is a career 40-45 pts C, and he’s 29 that will not net a $10M AAV contract even in a salary inflated NHL (earns $4.425M currently)

Bennett likely signs for $7M as UFA
I agree it is about the AAV he would get on the market. So if we need to pay 10M$ for him to sign here, it's because he has no other incentive to play here than money. And you don't want that on your team.
 
Bennett currently makes $4.425 and is going to get a huge raise on the open market. The cats are currently up against the cap, and even with it raising, they also have Ekblad to sign. It would be tight, but I agree that they can likely get it done. Who knows, though.
They have 23 millions for next season.
 
In the state we are in, I think we should do everything humanly possible to sign Bennet.

Signing an overpriced Bennett when Hage is on the way (on top of whichever center we might draft this year) is a path for no man's land.

I'd much rather overpay for a top RD, which we'll need anyway even if Rein pans out.

We should be rather looking for a temp solution at 2C.

I see a lot of people (finally) hopping on the Bennett bandwagon lately. Good. He’s exactly what this team needs. I have been saying it for a very long time, you get Bennett, you fill a huge amount of holes and are in serious business. The good news is that he’s a Quartexx client, so if he makes it to UFA status, we have a solid chance.

You get leadership, you get size, you get the bulldog tenacity that used to be a hallmark of all those great Habs teams, you get skill, you get goals. You get the kind of player that shows up in the tough games and leads by example. He will fight and will drag others into the fight with him. The perfect veteran to look after and play with Demidov.

We need more guys like this, and I will be the first one to buy a jersey if Hughes can get him signed here.

I'd be ok with Bennett, but not at 9+ per.
 
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Not really.

We already have a 1C.

We only have a 3RD (Carrier)

If none of our prospects hit, RD is the weakest position.

Then it's Hage/Beck/Kapanen vs Reinbacher/Mailloux/Konyushkov

If the Habs are to be contenders, they need 2 of the RD to hit as top4 RD. They only need one 2C from the prospects and IF Dach and Newhook don't hit.
When can Konyushkov realistically come over? When does his contract end?
 
They have 23 millions for next season.
Just because cap space exists doesn’t mean to use it to significantly overpay a good but not elite player at age 29 who inevitably has 2-3 years of peak performance left in a league which is younger, faster and more skilled year over year

A career 70+ pts player COULD get $10M AAV in the upcoming inflated open market, not a career 42 pts player
 
Just because cap space exists doesn’t mean to use it to significantly overpay a good but not elite player at age 29 who inevitably has 2-3 years of peak performance left in a league which is younger, faster and more skilled year over year

A career 70+ pts player COULD get $10M AAV in the upcoming inflated open market, not a career 42 pts player
Not sure what you are talking about, florida has 23 millions cap space and they won't have to pay him 10 millions if he stays.
 
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Prepare not to have a 2C for a long while or pay a ton of assets to get one. Suzuki-Bennett would be an awesome 1-2 punch, and we will have the wingers to support them. Bennett would be more like a 1B and would give Demidov a vet C to play with. We could also put Caufield with him and have Demidov play with Suzuki. Bennett would make our team a lot better, and with the cap going up, $10mil wouldn't be so bad.
Good example for Demidov, Slaf and eventually Hage. And like you said it gives the 2nd line more options.
 
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