HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #90: 2024-2025 season part III

[salbutera]

Hearing lots of chatter over past few days that Rantanen doesn't want to stay in Carolina long term even if they give him his money.

Really hope Habs have a chance. Would be easiest way to improve our offence without losing any assets

I’d offer up Cgy 1st for Rantanen & take the risk he’ll enjoy his time as a Hab w his BFF (Laine)

 

[Sterling Archer]

So let me get this straight.

EP at $11M - ewww gross. I’d never!

Bennett at $10M - oh yeah. I want me some of that.

 

[vokiel]

I’d offer up Cgy 1st for Rantanen & take the risk he’ll enjoy his time as a Hab w his BFF (Laine)

I thought the goal in Montreal was building a winning team, not satisfy the whims of their players?

Lets not waste first rounders, even if it's a weak draft.

 

[salbutera]

I thought the goal in Montreal was building a winning team, not satisfy the whims of their players?

Lets not waste first rounders, even if it's a weak draft.

Rantannen enables taking that next step, including mentorship of Slaf

 

[vokiel]

Tyson Barrie RD cleared waivers, not sure we're trading Savard or they'll throw Mailloux onto the anvil soon enough.

Rantannen enables taking that next step, including mentorship of Slaf

He does not, because his goal is testing the market.

 

[salbutera]

He does not, because his goal is testing the market.

Don’t know that for a fact, only assumption at this point is there is perhaps no desire to extend in Car & he’s looking for more $$ than MacKinnon which Avs were not willing to go past

I would assume having his BFF on the Habs would provide HuGo insight ..

 

[vokiel]

Don’t know that for a fact, only assumption at this point is there is perhaps no desire to extend in Car & he’s looking for more $$ than MacKinnon which Avs were not willing to go past

I would assume having his BFF on the Habs would provide HuGo insight ..

I think Carolina brings him into the playoffs. That's a lot more insights and convincing arguments than a weak 1st rounder can bring.

The take in the tweet is just plain bad.

 

[DiglettDangles]

We need a bomb from the blue line

Haven’t had that since Weber retired

Open up some more space for Hutson at even strength


He was more effective than Auston Matthews last night, that’s for sure

I, for one, am relieved the go-to play on the PP is no longer trying to hammer a puck in from the blue line like a Neanderthal

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

isnt Rantanen a F/A this summer ? why are we offering CAR a 1st round pick for him when we're in the bottom of the standings

 

[vokiel]

isnt Rantanen a F/A this summer ? why are we offering CAR a 1st round pick for him when we're in the bottom of the standings

Because Elliott Friedman requires your attention

 

[Goalfield13]

So let me get this straight.

EP at $11M - ewww gross. I’d never!

Bennett at $10M - oh yeah. I want me some of that.

One is a winner and the other a loser.

 

[salbutera]

I think Carolina brings him into the playoffs. That's a lot more insights and convincing arguments than a weak 1st rounder can bring.

The take in the tweet is just plain bad.

One would think so, but Tulsky’s all out analytics approach + Canes frugality w $$$ changes approach. Tulsky won’t lose an asset for nothing, so I wouldn’t rule out Rantannen being dealt for assets and Canes acquiring other immediate help for lower value

 

[vokiel]

One would think so, but Tulsky’s all out analytics approach + Canes frugality w $$$ changes approach. Tulsky won’t lose an asset for nothing, so I wouldn’t rule out Rantannen being dealt for assets and Canes acquiring other immediate help for lower value

That premise sounds like over-generalization. The Canes are in it to win, meaning losing Rentals for nothing is part of the game, no matter how high they paid.

 

[salbutera]

That premise sounds like over-generalization, the Canes are in it to win, that means losing Rentals for nothing is part of the game, no matter how high they paid.

Only at calculated cost, losing Rentals for nothing depends on which rentals. If Rantannen nets a 1st + prospect and Canes can turn around and get an older vet to step in for remainder of season at a lower price and lose him for nothing, that would be Tulsky’s M.O.

 

[vokiel]

Only at calculated cost, losing Rentals for nothing depends on which rentals. If Rantannen nets a 1st + prospect and Canes can turn around and get an older vet to step in for remainder of season at a lower price and lose him for nothing, that would be Tulsky’s M.O.

Yes, and then they are nobodies in the playoffs. Their goal is to win it, if they do this, it's a tank move imho.

The guy is in it too deep to back away. It was a gamble, it failed you capitalize by winning, not by doubling down.

 

[Andy]

Maybe Rantanan gets flipped for Petersson.

I could see that.

 

[Ryder Halak 2nd]

I wouldn't even give Bennett 7M.
He is like a last piece type of thing, not a beginning of a build thing.
By the time MTL needs him for playoffs he will be declined.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I, for one, am relieved the go-to play on the PP is no longer trying to hammer a puck in from the blue line like a Neanderthal

Our PP now is essentially just Laine trying to hammer it home from the circle

I’m talking about an even strength partner for him though

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Maybe Rantanan gets flipped for Petersson.

I could see that.

...problem would be who plays C in Vancouver??...

 

[EveryDay]

...problem would be who plays C in Vancouver??...

The great Chytil and Pius Suter.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

The great Chytil and Pius Suter.

...yup...Chytil is one more concussion away from retirement, imo, and Suter is...Suter...go 'Nucks...

 

[Treb]

I wouldn't even give Bennett 7M.
He is like a last piece type of thing, not a beginning of a build thing.
By the time MTL needs him for playoffs he will be declined.

You think he'll decline in the next 2-4 years?

 

[le_sean]

I wouldn't even give Bennett 7M.
He is like a last piece type of thing, not a beginning of a build thing.
By the time MTL needs him for playoffs he will be declined.

I expect Montreal to be close and even in the playoffs next year. The year after will be the one to make noise in. Bennett will still be good in two years.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

So let me get this straight.

EP at $11M - ewww gross. I’d never!

Bennett at $10M - oh yeah. I want me some of that.

That’s a disingenuous statement.

Nobody thinks that Bennett will get 10 million per. It’s not realistic.

But Bennett as a UFA, paying above market price to sign (say 8.5 million per) is a lot more palatable than paying the kings ransom in assets it would require to pick up Pettersson from Vancouver, AND pay him 11 million per after.

 

[le_sean]

That’s a disingenuous statement.

Nobody thinks that Bennett will get 10 million per. It’s not realistic.

But Bennett as a UFA, paying above market price to sign (say 8.5 million per) is a lot more palatable than paying the kings ransom in assets it would require to pick up Pettersson from Vancouver, AND pay him 11 million per after.

Is it though? Bennett’s career high is 49 points.