Trade Proposal Thread #89: 2024-2025 season part II

[ML16]

I have a question for you guys about our bottom 6 wingers.

Right now we have Armia, Heineman, Gallagher and Anderson.

Next season, Newhook will drop in the bottom 6 with Demidov taking his spots.

Also imo, Habs should resign Armia as he is a transformed players since his stint in the AHL and plays a big role on our PK and ate 5 vs 5.

Finally, I think Habs have interest in signing Olivier as a UFA this summer.

My question his : how do you think HuGo navigates through this and what you think would be the best outcome for the Habs for next season.

Dvorak could be traded at TDL ; Newhook then auditions for 3C - Heineman replaces Newhook on the top-6 for the remainder of the season. This might give an internal LH 3rd center option for next year.

If Newhook doesn’t pan out as 3C, using him as leverage in a trade for one this offseason should definitely be considered.

Signing Olivier only makes sense if one of Anderson/Gallagher is traded beforehand.

As for Armia, I would also consider renewing his contract if the price is right (2-3M AAV).

Caufield- Suzuki - Slafkovski/Demidov
Demidov/Slafkovski - Dach - Laine
Heineman - Newhook/3C - Armia/Anderson
Anderson/ELC - Evans - Olivier/Gallagher

 

[Benstheman]

Not at the rumored 4m. If he comes in around 3m, it's palatable depending on term.

Yeah I don't think he will get 4M$. But let's say we can get him to sign at 3,5 M$ for 4 years.

Who do you prefer Olivier at 3,5 M$ or Anderson at 5,5M$?

 

[salbutera]

They already traded a young player to improve the team a month ago.

By young Gorton is referring to their prospect pool which Barron was no longer considered a part of

 

[Deebs]

I have a question for you guys about our bottom 6 wingers.

Right now we have Armia, Heineman, Gallagher and Anderson.

Next season, Newhook will drop in the bottom 6 with Demidov taking his spots.

Also imo, Habs should resign Armia as he is a transformed players since his stint in the AHL and plays a big role on our PK and ate 5 vs 5.

Finally, I think Habs have interest in signing Olivier as a UFA this summer.

My question his : how do you think HuGo navigates through this and what you think would be the best outcome for the Habs for next season.

Pending where the team is at the deadline, trade Armia or pretend he's a pickup for our run. Can always negotiate with him after the season. He's so inconsistent it's tough to commit to him moving forward. 1 year deal, no problem bringing him back.

Love me some Heine and imo, he's a bigger Lehkonen. Has a place on my team moving forward.

Newhook will be in the bottom 6 and that's perfect for him and us. Does he take over for Dvo, who gets tossed either at the deadline or after the season, remains to be seen.

Given their contracts, I don't see either Andy or Gally not being with us next year. he best thing to ever happen to Andy was having his role changed this year. Gally has one more year of being a 4th liner/13th man and then he'll either be bought out or LTIR.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Yeah I don't think he will get 4M$. But let's say we can get him to sign at 3,5 M$ for 4 years.

Who do you prefer Olivier at 3,5 M$ or Anderson at 5,5M$?

Olivier but I think we can survive with both of them in the line-up right now.

 

[Hins77]

They already traded a young player to improve the team a month ago.

They should say the only player that they never trade is Demidov. After that, every prospect have their own price. Bullshit, they won't trade a young player. They did it Barron and Harris recently.

 

[Benstheman]

Pending where the team is at the deadline, trade Armia or pretend he's a pickup for our run. Can always negotiate with him after the season. He's so inconsistent it's tough to commit to him moving forward. 1 year deal, no problem bringing him back.

Love me some Heine and imo, he's a bigger Lehkonen. Has a place on my team moving forward.

Newhook will be in the bottom 6 and that's perfect for him and us. Does he take over for Dvo, who gets tossed either at the deadline or after the season, remains to be seen.

Given their contracts, I don't see either Andy or Gally not being with us next year. he best thing to ever happen to Andy was having his role changed this year. Gally has one more year of being a 4th liner/13th man and then he'll either be bought out or LTIR.

I agree with almost everything. Though I think Armia is pretty consistent since last season's AHL stint. But he is what he is, a 3rd line winger with size and a solid PKer.

As for Newhook, I agree 3rd line is his spot but I don't see him having a spot either.

For me, the ideal bottom 6 going forward, starting next season is :

Heineman-Evans-Armia
Olivier-Beck-Anderson

If you think Beck is not ready, Newhook could take that spot temporarily. But all in all, I think Newhook is trade bait for us this summer.

Olivier but I think we can survive with both of them in the line-up right now.

Yeah I agree. A 4th line of Olivier-Beck-Anderson would be dynamite imo.

 

[Benstheman]

So next year I would love the following lines :

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield
Demidov-Dach-Laine
Heineman-Evans-Armia
Olivier-Beck-Anderson
Gallagher

Use Newhook with other pieces to get help on the right side of D.

 

[Ozmodiar]

I have a question for you guys about our bottom 6 wingers.

Right now we have Armia, Heineman, Gallagher and Anderson.

Next season, Newhook will drop in the bottom 6 with Demidov taking his spots.

Also imo, Habs should resign Armia as he is a transformed players since his stint in the AHL and plays a big role on our PK and ate 5 vs 5.

Finally, I think Habs have interest in signing Olivier as a UFA this summer.

My question his : how do you think HuGo navigates through this and what you think would be the best outcome for the Habs for next season.

I don’t think they’ll sign both Armia and Olivier.

I see Armia pricing himself out of what Mtl will want to pay. Esp if he has a good 4 Nations showing.

So on the wing, Olivier and a rookie Beck or Kapanen in rotation. Won’t be popular here but it worked for Suzuki. (And maybe Dach)

Anderson newhook gally
Heineman Evans Olivier/Beck

Newhook being the bridge to Hage but I’d like to see a trade for a guy like ROR.

 

[Deebs]

So next year I would love the following lines :

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield
Demidov-Dach-Laine
Heineman-Evans-Armia
Olivier-Beck-Anderson
Gallagher

Use Newhook with other pieces to get help on the right side of D.

Good looking lineup. What's the cap hit of this group?

 

[sampollock]

So much this guy
ndeed, Islanders defenseman Noah Dobson was seriously injured during Monday night's game against the Columbus Blue Jackets. This loss could have a significant impact on the team's performance in the coming weeks.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Dvorak could be traded at TDL ; Newhook then auditions for 3C - Heineman replaces Newhook on the top-6 for the remainder of the season. This might give an internal LH 3rd center option for next year.

If Newhook doesn’t pan out as 3C, using him as leverage in a trade for one this offseason should definitely be considered.

Signing Olivier only makes sense if one of Anderson/Gallagher is traded beforehand.

As for Armia, I would also consider renewing his contract if the price is right (2-3M AAV).

Caufield- Suzuki - Slafkovski/Demidov
Demidov/Slafkovski - Dach - Laine
Heineman - Newhook/3C - Armia/Anderson
Anderson/ELC - Evans - Olivier/Gallagher

The way things are going, they’re more likely to add than subtract at the TDL.

 

[Benstheman]

Good looking lineup. What's the cap hit of this group?

about 60 M$.

 

[Ozmodiar]

So next year I would love the following lines :

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield
Demidov-Dach-Laine
Heineman-Evans-Armia
Olivier-Beck-Anderson
Gallagher

Use Newhook with other pieces to get help on the right side of D.

Gallagher won’t be the 13th.

Maybe they find a trade partner, but they won’t put him in the press box. They won’t do him dirty like that - he’s still wears a letter.

 

[Benstheman]

Gallagher won’t be the 13th.

Maybe they find a trade partner, but they won’t put him in the press box. They won’t do him dirty like that - he’s still wears a letter.

I agree. I think we can trade him while retaining 50% for the last two years of his contract. At 3,25 M$ he is a useful player.

 

[morhilane]

They should say the only player that they never trade is Demidov. After that, every prospect have their own price. Bullshit, they won't trade a young player. They did it Barron and Harris recently.

Struble is probably next.

 

[salbutera]

I agree. I think we can trade him while retaining 50% for the last two years of his contract. At 3,25 M$ he is a useful player.

There is no need to trade Gallagher, he’s had a solid rebound season on pace for 20G, and with the cap set to skyrocket and the core minus Hutson locked up, cap space over next 2-seasons isn’t a big deal.

Over course of next 80-100 GP, if all progresses steadily, Heineken will likely displace Gallagher on a 3rd line w Gally slotting down, and potentially being dealt the last year of his contract

 

[Benstheman]

Struble is probably next.

Not sure. We still need an effective 7th D. We still are exposed to injuries.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I agree. I think we can trade him while retaining 50% for the last two years of his contract. At 3,25 M$ he is a useful player.

Only if we need to do it. Right now, we would have to add someone through UFA or trade to get to this cap strap situation. What we have currently works and Gallagher can just expire.

Personally, I would consider that for his last year (50% retention). Easier for other teams to take a chance ($3.35M) for one year vs two and it also applies to the Habs cap (1 year vs 2 year hits).

If Dach didn't have his injury last year and broke out into a 60-80 pts center, then I'd get a little worried for his raise. Gallagher and Anderson's contract overlap Dach's new one by one year.

 

[Benstheman]

There is no need to trade Gallagher, he’s had a solid rebound season on pace for 20G, and with the cap set to skyrocket and the core minus Hutson locked up, cap space over next 2-seasons isn’t a big deal.

Over course of next 80-100 GP, if all progresses steadily, Heineken will likely displace Gallagher on a 3rd line w Gally slotting down, and potentially being dealt the last year of his contract

I agree but there was a context to my comment. All in all, I don't want Gallagher's contract to be a limitation for us to get better players that will push us to the next level.

 

[salbutera]

They should say the only player that they never trade is Demidov. After that, every prospect have their own price. Bullshit, they won't trade a young player. They did it Barron and Harris recently.

Gorton specifically stated “we have a plan and expect to compete for a long time and we won’t be trading young players who we expect to be here for that”

Barron, Harris were clearly not players HuGo felt were part of the longterm plans…

 

[le_sean]

There is no need to trade Gallagher, he’s had a solid rebound season on pace for 20G, and with the cap set to skyrocket and the core minus Hutson locked up, cap space over next 2-seasons isn’t a big deal.

Over course of next 80-100 GP, if all progresses steadily, Heineken will likely displace Gallagher on a 3rd line w Gally slotting down, and potentially being dealt the last year of his contract

It is a big deal to keep throwing him out there. It’s not even about the cap savings, it’s about him being terrible. After a decent start to the season, he’s regressed to being a liability. From 13 points in the first 23 games to 7 in the last 25 and mistake after mistake on the ice.

 

[sampollock]

I agree. I think we can trade him while retaining 50% for the last two years of his contract. At 3,25 M$ he is a useful player.

Gally wont be going anywhere sadly. He is here to stay till his contract is up or LITR

 

[Ozmodiar]

I agree but there was a context to my comment. All in all, I don't want Gallagher's contract to be a limitation for us to get better players that will push us to the next level.

The retention is still limiting.
3.25 retention + 3.25 for Olivier allocated to the 4th RW.

 

[morhilane]

Gorton specifically stated “we have a plan and expect to compete for a long time and we won’t be trading young players who we expect to be here for that”

Barron, Harris were clearly not players HuGo felt were part of the longterm plans…

Oh, the full quote is more amusing. So everyone not on the team playing outside of Demidov and Reinbacher are probably trade options.