HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

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Anderson top 15 in hits for RWs
Pezz top 5 in hits for LWs
Slafkovsky 16th in hits for RWs
Guhle top 60 in hits for Ds in 44 games!
Struble top 60 in hits for Ds in 56 games!
Arber top 60 in hits for Ds in 70 games!

Again, you need to refine your definition if you don't like the players that meet it.

Also, anyone saying that Slaf is not tough to play against with that size is being disingenous. Gallagher being a pain in front of the net is absolutely tough to play against.
Seems like the Bell Centre hits counter is too generous with his tracking.

Anderson’s pecks and hugs shouldn’t be counted as hits.

Slaf is definitely a force and tough to play against. But you’re too charitable with Gallagher, he’s a smart player (always has been) but his motor is gone so he’s not hard to play against.
 

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Canadiens need trade for high end right shot D in near future. Because Reinbacher is pushed back a year and he wasn't impressive in camp. Mailloux raw skill but not close. Savard is getting up there and Barron had good moments but how long will that last?. Next off season at latest. According to when right deal comes along.
 
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Canadiens need trade for high end right shot D in near future. Because Reinbacher is pushed back a year and he wasn't impressive in camp. Mailloux raw skill but not close. Savard is getting up there and Barron had good moments but how long will that last?. Next off season at latest. According to when right deal comes along.
Noah Dobson will be RFA.

Habs aren't likely to offersheet him. Doesn't seem like he wants out of long island/won't sign long-term, but didn't know that about Matthew until the end of the season.
 

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Canadiens need trade for high end right shot D in near future. Because Reinbacher is pushed back a year and he wasn't impressive in camp. Mailloux raw skill but not close. Savard is getting up there and Barron had good moments but how long will that last?. Next off season at latest. According to when right deal comes along.
The problem is that RHD pool is extremely shallow around the whole league. Dobson and Bouchard are the only high end players who might be available next year, but not sure why any of them would come to Habs.
The player we might target is Erik Cernak if things go wrong in Tampa this season.
 

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The toughest teams in the league have players going to war for each other even if they aren't goons. Outside of Xhekaj, nobody on the Habs will do anything meaningful to stand up for their teammates. When he got hired, Hughes made it a point that he was upset by the lack of response when Monty got runover by Kassian, yet nothing has changed besides Xhekaj becoming a regular. It's moreso about the team identity than filling up the team with bruisers.
This nasty business could actually have a silver lining even if we can't see it now.
 

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The problem is that RHD pool is extremely shallow around the whole league. Dobson and Bouchard are the only high end players who might be available next year, but not sure why any of them would come to Habs.
The player we might target is Erik Cernak if things go wrong in Tampa this season.
LD/RD was never such a big deal until Babcock used it as an excuse to keep Subban off the ice at the Olympics. Ever since it seems every coach in the league is scared to play guys on their off side.
 

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LD/RD was never such a big deal until Babcock used it as an excuse to keep Subban off the ice at the Olympics. Ever since it seems every coach in the league is scared to play guys on their off side.
Yeah left d white d wasn't a big deal bag then. Oops I Darren pang'd it.
 

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Well these posts aged poorly. Multiple players went after Greig. Xhekaj took out Stutzle when he chickened out on everyone and then Dach himself made Greig a punching bag.
Aged poorly. Right after the hit, the four guys on the ice just stood there and did nothing. Oh, and our top 6 guy had to fight the scrub.

What happened right after the wifi hit? Brady went right after him.

It was embarrassing.
 

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Noah Dobson will be RFA.

Habs aren't likely to offersheet him. Doesn't seem like he wants out of long island/won't sign long-term, but didn't know that about Matthew until the end of the season.
Dobson going to be expensive, 4 first I imagine. I was thinking somebody more along lines of an Andersson.
 

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Dobson going to be expensive, 4 first I imagine. I was thinking somebody more along lines of an Andersson.
Yeah, but rhen Andersson is expensive in a year, or two.

Dobson fits the age group more.

Those 4 1st for an offer sheet, if not matched and Dobson signs it, it can be 4 firsts in the next 5 years, so the Habs could keep their 2026 1st and then lose the next 4 after that.

That said, Andersson is still a solid option. Dobson just fits a bit better in my opinion
 

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Yeah, but rhen Andersson is expensive in a year, or two.

Dobson fits the age group more.

Those 4 1st for an offer sheet, if not matched and Dobson signs it, it can be 4 firsts in the next 5 years, so the Habs could keep their 2026 1st and then lose the next 4 after that.

That said, Andersson is still a solid option. Dobson just fits a bit better in my opinion
I just see Dobson Islanders way less likely to part with. Massive move.
 

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Canadiens need trade for high end right shot D in near future. Because Reinbacher is pushed back a year and he wasn't impressive in camp. Mailloux raw skill but not close. Savard is getting up there and Barron had good moments but how long will that last?. Next off season at latest. According to when right deal comes along.
Yes. Use the big assets on a RD. Its an absolute need.

Dobson going to be expensive, 4 first I imagine. I was thinking somebody more along lines of an Andersson.
Thats not expensive thats what a top RD at 24 costs, or even less I'd say. Andersson doesn't fit the time line.

We'd still have a 1st round pick in 2025 and 2 2nds in 2026. It's more than manageable IMO, especially for such a piece as Dobson.
 

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Yes. Use the big assets on a RD. Its an absolute need.


Thats not expensive thats what a top RD at 24 costs, or even less I'd say. Andersson doesn't fit the time line.

We'd still have a 1st round pick in 2025 and 2 2nds in 2026. It's more than manageable IMO, especially for such a piece as Dobson.
It is what an RD would cost but it is very expensive. Now if Hughes can another 1st in a couple of those years it would be worth it.
 

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Yes. Use the big assets on a RD. Its an absolute need.


Thats not expensive thats what a top RD at 24 costs, or even less I'd say. Andersson doesn't fit the time line.

We'd still have a 1st round pick in 2025 and 2 2nds in 2026. It's more than manageable IMO, especially for such a piece as Dobson.
I doubt Islanders give Dobson up. That trade way harder to do. I wanted Andersson for the experience. Like quality vet mixed in with youth of Reinbacher, Mailloux. Move Guhle back to his natural side trade Matheson for good haul. At deadline by latest.

Why i always draft best player, never draft for position. Even if he's not right piece, can trade pieces you don't want for what you need. Michkov now, would return ton.
 
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I doubt Islanders give Dobson up. That trade way harder to do. I wanted Andersson for the experience. Like quality vet mixed in with youth of Reinbacher, Mailloux. Move Guhle back to his natural side trade Matheson for good haul. At deadline by latest.

Why i always draft best player, never draft for position. Even if he's not right piece, can trade pieces you don't want for what you need. Michkov now, would return ton.
I'd overpay pretty hard for Dobson. I'm sure theres a limit to where Lou will go for Dobson.
 

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Aged poorly. Right after the hit, the four guys on the ice just stood there and did nothing. Oh, and our top 6 guy had to fight the scrub.

What happened right after the wifi hit? Brady went right after him.

It was embarrassing.

Do you think if our players of Brady's ilk were on the ice, they wouldn't have done anything? Dach got hit when the PP was on and that group aren't fighters, Expecting an immediate response from that group just isn't going to happen.

Also, multiple guys tried to fight Grieg all night long. Grieg only finally answered the bell with Dach because he didn't think Dach can throw 'em.

Barre Boulet isn't gonna fight Ridley Greig after a hit, sorry.
 

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I doubt Islanders give Dobson up. That trade way harder to do. I wanted Andersson for the experience. Like quality vet mixed in with youth of Reinbacher, Mailloux. Move Guhle back to his natural side trade Matheson for good haul. At deadline by latest.

Why i always draft best player, never draft for position. Even if he's not right piece, can trade pieces you don't want for what you need. Michkov now, would return ton.
And (health notwithstanding) Reinbacher would return as much if not more than Michkov.
 
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Seems like the Bell Centre hits counter is too generous with his tracking.

Anderson’s pecks and hugs shouldn’t be counted as hits.

Slaf is definitely a force and tough to play against. But you’re too charitable with Gallagher, he’s a smart player (always has been) but his motor is gone so he’s not hard to play against.
If I remember correctly, it's the opposite
 

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Do you think if our players of Brady's ilk were on the ice, they wouldn't have done anything? Dach got hit when the PP was on and that group aren't fighters, Expecting an immediate response from that group just isn't going to happen.

Also, multiple guys tried to fight Grieg all night long. Grieg only finally answered the bell with Dach because he didn't think Dach can throw 'em.

Barre Boulet isn't gonna fight Ridley Greig after a hit, sorry.
Who cares if they are Brady’s ilk!!

Just watching is embarrassing. Why are guys chasing him asking him to fight, just drop the gloves and go at him. It should not have been up to Kirby to do it. He did it out of frustration, what is crazy no one else did.

This team is butter soft.
 
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