HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Adriatic]

Depends if by toughness you actually mean meanness. We don't have very many mean players, and we don't have a style of play that preaches always finishing your checks or playing the body over playing the puck. But if toughness is more about winning the physical battles then I don't think we are bad in that regard.

We definitely have some meanness in the pipe line that will hopefully one day be part of the group like Tuch and Florian. But for this season we are definitely lacking in that department and I would like KH to address that by trade.

 

[Beer and Chips]

I think the team should trade for a vet RHD with 1-2 years left on a deal to plug that hole while RB and LM are taking their time in Laval.

Have no idea what players or teams would qualify for such a trade, though

With the young forwards next year, a 1RD is the biggest hole on the team. We need another fortunate circumstance to acquire one, we have the young guys and picks to compete.

 

[Canadienna]

As far as I know it's accurate.

Teams can sort of cheat in order to become cap compliant because you don't need a 23 man roster, so we send some waiver exempt players down to start the season and start the season with a 20 man roster including Price. Then we immediately put Price on LTIR and callup the guys we sent down and get back up to a 23man roster.

Thanks for the breakdown.

I thought when Hughes mentioned that he meant they wouldn't have to put Price in LTIR at all, but I'm probably misremembering.

 

[vokiel]

Is PuckPedia the best site to get an idea of our cap situation? They have us as over the cap by a couple million right now, but I'm pretty sure Hughes said they'd be cap compliant without putting Price on LTIR.

Anyone have a better handle on the Habs current cap situation?

There's capwages.com, not sure if it's any better. Seems pretty accurate.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Thanks for the breakdown.

I thought when Hughes mentioned that he meant they wouldn't have to put Price in LTIR at all, but I'm probably misremembering.

Yeah, i think he said it but he meant he wouldn't have to put Price on LTIR before the start of the season to be cap compliant.

 

[morhilane]

Thanks for the breakdown.

I thought when Hughes mentioned that he meant they wouldn't have to put Price in LTIR at all, but I'm probably misremembering.

You heard right, Hughes said they wanted to accrue cap space this year which you can't do if someone is on LTIR.

So either he's planning to play with a 20 man roster for a while or plans changed.

 

[The Great Weal]

Given how Suzuki/Slaf/Demidov/CC are likely here to stay for the long run, I'm curious what we end up doing about the rest. Laine and Dach will need to prove that they can remain healthy for the most part, bounce back into producing well, and in Laine's case what his next contract demands are.

Newhook/Roy/Beck/Kapanen/Hage/Mesar are more likely to be 3rd liners

And Xhekaj/Tuch/Heineman/Thorpe/Davidson for 4th liners.

Of course not everyone will pan out, but let's not forget how we have 2 1sts and 2 2nds this draft, and we will likely sign people if need be. It's a good problem to have, but forwards, defense and even goalies are looking more and more crowded.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Would you do Huberdeau for Newhook if we only pay 5/per for JH.

NFW.

 

[jellybeans]

Is PuckPedia the best site to get an idea of our cap situation? They have us as over the cap by a couple million right now, but I'm pretty sure Hughes said they'd be cap compliant without putting Price on LTIR.

Anyone have a better handle on the Habs current cap situation?

CapWages - NHL Salary Cap Data is a bit different couple 100k diference

 

[morhilane]

CapWages - NHL Salary Cap Data is a bit different couple 100k diference

There is $1 different on Guhle last contract year salary, but that's the not the main difference. The bonus overage isn't the same between both site:

CapWages is using $1,022,500, PuckMedia is using $997,500.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Would you do Huberdeau for Newhook if we only pay 5/per for JH.

I didn't like the Newhook deal and that's an easy no.

 

[HuGort]

Would you do Huberdeau for Newhook if we only pay 5/per for JH.

Huberdeau is 31 and signed for 7 more years. He's not getting any better. Newhook is decent young player

 

[General Fanager]

Would you do Huberdeau for Newhook if we only pay 5/per for JH.

Huberdeau is the new PLD.....

Its Sept 28th and I already know its going to be a long season with this stuff.....

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Would you do Huberdeau for Newhook if we only pay 5/per for JH.

If Anderson Gallagher and Armia are in the trade for Huberdeau id think aboutr it

 

[BaseballCoach]

Would you do Huberdeau for Newhook if we only pay 5/per for JH.

No, due to age and term

 

[Rapala]

Adding a guy like Andersson adds value at a very important position now and he's still at a great age relative to our core. Any chance you get to add a guy like that, you should take it, if other people become solutions, they will be able to be used to acquire the pieces you are missing.

What if you don't make the acquisition for Andersson and none of your question marks pan out? Then you are even further away. We can't be afraid to make the moves if the right age, player type and person is available



Then they can use that asset to get something else they need.

We can't sit around forever sitting on picks and prospects waiting to see if one might blossom. If you get a chance to get someone who is established now, in the window, you should pull the trigger.

Getting Andersson moves Guhle back to the left and allows us to trade Matheson.

I would do back flips if we could get Andersson and get him signed long term.
The move would give us balance and credibility at the back but Matheson would have to be the one to go.
Guhle back on his strong side Hutson freed up to run our PP.
It would allow for more latitude at TDL with players like Savard who could stay or go depending on our standings.
This is a pure hockey trade that wouldn't have to wait for TDL Calgary just have to suck early on.

 

[morhilane]

Calgary just have to suck early on.

We should start the prayer circle to the hockey gods (add Florida in too). We need both teams to suck this year.

 

[BaseballCoach]

There is $1 different on Guhle last contract year salary, but that's the not the main difference. The bonus overage isn't the same between both site:

CapWages is using $1,022,500, PuckMedia is using $997,500.

PuckPedia is missing Monahan's $25,000 games played bonus.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'd disagree, outside of maybe 3 teams.

We have 11 picks in the top 3 rounds of the next two drafts and a consensus top 5 prospect pool in the league that is universally recognized as having insane depth.

Name me the contenders that come close to that war chest.

 

[Mrb1p]

Larsson and Parayko are, to me, more interesting if we end up targeting a vet.

 

[sampollock]

We have 11 picks in the top 3 rounds of the next two drafts and a consensus top 5 prospect pool in the league that is universally recognized as having insane depth.

Name me the contenders that come close to that war chest.

That's so true
Kent has really used asset management so well

 

[Deus ex machina]

Larsson and Parayko are, to me, more interesting if we end up targeting a vet.

Larsson would've been a good candidate but he just signed a 4 year extension with full trade protection.

There are not many good available candidates out there at this time other than Andersson and there will be a lot of demand at the trade deadline for that kind of player.

 

[Deus ex machina]

We should start the prayer circle to the hockey gods (add Florida in too). We need both teams to suck this year.

Priority goes to Florida for prayers. If they start slow, Calgary will get really nervous.
They'll want to get their pick back.
KH will have all the leverage then, but i'm not sure he will want to trade the pick if that happens though.

 

[calder candidate]

KH has done all of us agressif move, now we could just sit back our perceived need right might not be our needs going into next season because some of the thing we are counting on might fall apart and the ? Might step up.

 

[Sorinth]

CapWages - NHL Salary Cap Data is a bit different couple 100k diference

The difference seems to be in the cap overages value, Puckpedia says $997,500 and CapWages has $1,022,500. No idea which number is actually correct.

EDIT: Apparently Puckpedia is missing Monahan's bonus.